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Post by Nessie on Jan 26, 2022 10:18:17 GMT
Nessie can't seem to comprehend that there's a difference between the statements made by the alleged witnesses and the technical capabilities of the Germans. Thermonuclear bombs are possible. Building and testing one in your basement isn't. Building gas chambers at TII, Sobibor and Belzec, modifying vans at Chelmno and modifying Kremas at A-B, were all within their abilities. As was digging huge pits and storing the ex. As was setting pyres or using ovens for mass creations.
Your suggestion that it was beyond their engineering and construction abilities is refuted by the evidence and what else they were able to design and construct.
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Post by Ulios on Jan 26, 2022 10:24:15 GMT
Nessie can't seem to comprehend that there's a difference between the statements made by the alleged witnesses and the technical capabilities of the Germans. Thermonuclear bombs are possible. Building and testing one in your basement isn't. Building gas chambers at TII, Sobibor and Belzec, modifying vans at Chelmno and modifying Kremas at A-B, were all within their abilities. As was digging huge pits and storing the ex. As was setting pyres or using ovens for mass creations.
Your suggestion that it was beyond their engineering and construction abilities is refuted by the evidence and what else they were able to design and construct.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 10:32:24 GMT
(sigh) Nessie still can't differentiate between what the alleged witnesses claimed the Germans did and what their technical capabilities were.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 26, 2022 10:40:02 GMT
Building gas chambers at TII, Sobibor and Belzec, modifying vans at Chelmno and modifying Kremas at A-B, were all within their abilities. As was digging huge pits and storing the ex. As was setting pyres or using ovens for mass creations.
Your suggestion that it was beyond their engineering and construction abilities is refuted by the evidence and what else they were able to design and construct.
Apart from Sgt Floss who were the brilliant engineers who organized this feat of industrial might?
The Topf & Sons engineers who designed the A-B gas chambers and ovens are named here;
"For the SS in Auschwitz, the engineers Kurt Prรผfer and Karl Schultze were more than official representatives of the suppliers Topf & Sons. They were also the first professionals SS Construction Management turned to when it received complaints from Berlin. The two Topf & Sons employees supplied the SS with advice and assistance on increasing the efficiency of mass murder in the new crematoria."
Details on the engineering of the gas vans and Dr August Beker, Willy Just and Walter Rauff who helped with the design here;
The AR camp gas chambers were constructed by personnel such as Erich Fuchs and Friedel Schwartz;
"Upon our arrival in Belzec, we met Friedel Schwarz and the other SS men, whose names I cannot remember. They supervised the construction of barracks that would serve as a gas chamber."
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Post by Nessie on Jan 26, 2022 10:44:46 GMT
(sigh) Nessie still can't differentiate between what the alleged witnesses claimed the Germans did and what their technical capabilities were. You cannot explain why you are able to credibly and reliably determine physical possibility from the way witnesses describe how something works.
You pretend that if a witness describes something in a way that would not work, therefore it cannot have happened. That does not make logical sense.
The claims of modifying Kremas at A-B, of building gas chambers at the AR camps and modifying vans at Chelmno are all technically possible.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 10:53:27 GMT
Still no comprehension of what the witnesses said and the technical capabilities of the Germans. Just more "what if" the eevul Narzis did this, that or the other. Then they "coulda/woulda" been able to do that. Nessie claims to not be able to be able to differentiate between what the alleged witnesses said they did and the technical capabilities of the Germans. I think he's lying.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 26, 2022 12:41:40 GMT
Still no comprehension of what the witnesses said and the technical capabilities of the Germans. Just more "what if" the eevul Narzis did this, that or the other. Then they "coulda/woulda" been able to do that. Nessie claims to not be able to be able to differentiate between what the alleged witnesses said they did and the technical capabilities of the Germans. I'm think he's lying. The witnesses, such as the Krema engineers, know the technicalities of the design and construction of the gas chambers. Witnesses, such as Jews who are being used a slave labour, under pain of death, to take out dead bodies, will not know the technicalities of the design and construction. Some witnesses, such as the Nazis who ran the engines, knew about the engines, but were not asked until years later and were not asked to describe them in any great detail.
There is no definitive connection between how a witness describes the workings of something and whether or not it happened. Your suggestion that it can be reliably determined if something happened, by how a witness describes the technicalities, is wrong. You are claiming that unless a witness can describe in detail what gun was used and exactly how the gun works, they cannot be truthful about witnessing a shooting.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 17:10:07 GMT
There are multiple witnesses not just one who claimed that the gas chambers were hermetically sealed. There were multiple witnesses who said that it was a vacuum chamber, that the air was pumped out of the chamber before the CO was let in. There were multiple descriptions of the cremation process. On and on.
You say that the Germans "COULDA" built a proper gas chamber so they did. You say that the cadavers "COULDA" been cremated on a grate "IF" sufficient fuel was available and it was.
Do the other facts claimed by the witnesses ring true? No, the tales of getting their ears nailed to a wall, climbing rickety jungle gyms while the eeevul Narzis took pot shots at them and fantasies about burning blood don't sound truthful at all and those are just a few of the fantasies.
You say that I should just overlook these obvious lies and accept that the Germans were capable of building functional gas chambers and crematories instead of such tales being crude propaganda. You do NOT approach the holyhoax as a person who seeks the truth. Not at all.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 26, 2022 17:49:57 GMT
There are multiple witnesses not just one who claimed that the gas chambers were hermetically sealed. There were multiple witnesses who said that it was a vacuum chamber, that the air was pumped out of the chamber before the CO was let in. There were multiple descriptions of the cremation process. On and on. Which means corroborating eyewitness evidence of the process whereby an engine was used and hearsay evidence for the vaccum, so the vacuum claim is wrong. Air being pumped out prior to gas being pumped in is a minor detail. It was physically possible and is evidenced to have happened. Gassings, grave and pyres are physically possible and are evidenced to have happened. You have no evidence of a process inside TII that did not involve gassings. But, because you do not want to believe gassings, you have rationalised the use of a logical fallacy and then you believe in a series of events that are not evidenced to have happened. You ignore that transporting and accommodating so many people without leaving evidence is physically impossible. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 18:04:07 GMT
No, I just don't believe the tales of the hermetically sealed gas chamber with a 27 liter engine pumping it's exhaust into it. I don't believe that cadavers can be cremated on a grate with only tiny amounts of kindling for a heat source. No, I don't believe the tales of people getting their ears nailed to a wall and of burning blood. Your claim that was just mistakes or exaggerations and everything that was claimed "coulda" been done by the eeevul Narzis is just your fantasy from holyhoax la-la land. It didn't happen.
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