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Post by Turnagain on Jan 28, 2022 19:34:22 GMT
Why do you assume that the Germans wanted to build gas chambers at Treblinka or dig gigantic pits there? You have nothing but the word of known liars who claimed that they did.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 28, 2022 19:41:51 GMT
Why do you assume that the Germans wanted to build gas chambers at Treblinka or dig gigantic pits there? You have nothing but the word of known liars who claimed that they did. I do not assume anything. I see what is evidenced and what is not. The witnesses are corroborated by evidence from documents, archaeology, physical items and circumstances. The AR camps were used to gas people and steal the last of their property, with a lucky few being selected to work.
Why do you assume the Nazis were using TII as a transit camp? You have no evidence at all.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 28, 2022 20:19:36 GMT
Your "evidence" of gas chambers and giant pits is just imaginary bullshit from you, Nessie.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 29, 2022 9:04:22 GMT
Your "evidence" of gas chambers and giant pits is just imaginary bullshit from you, Nessie. Let's see who has imaginary evidence.
Here are the documents, witnesses, archaeological and other evidence relating to TII
Show me your documents, witnesses etc.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 29, 2022 10:33:05 GMT
Sell such mindless claptrap down the street, Nessie.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 29, 2022 14:54:57 GMT
Sell such mindless claptrap down the street, Nessie. Why is asking you to show your evidence, mindless claptrap? |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 30, 2022 2:20:46 GMT
You have no evidence of gas chambers, graves or cremains. You have what you declare to be evidence of mass murder but in fact have exactly zip.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 30, 2022 9:13:53 GMT
You have no evidence of gas chambers, graves or cremains. You have what you declare to be evidence of mass murder but in fact have exactly zip. You know that is a lie and that I have shown you the witnesses, archaeology etc
The only person you are fooling that there is no evidence is yourself, as you deflect from your lack of evidence that by the end of 1944, the Nazis were accommodating c2.5 million people you claim were not gassed. You are deluded to think that the Nazis were capable of accommodating so many people in total secrecy and that would keep the secret, even when they knew they were being accused of gassing all those people.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 30, 2022 10:16:15 GMT
Hoaxers make the claim that ~900,000 Jews were killed at Treblinka and have nothing but the absurd tales of known liars, about 300 remains from Lukaszkeiwcz and the handful of CS-C's unidentified tiny bone shards along with her "disturbed ground" where giant pits should have been located. Your accusations remain unproven and your claim that revisionists must prove what didn't happen is bullshit. You have no proof of your accusation and your evidence is laughably indeterminate. Where are the tons of cremains and the graves? Where did the fuel to cremate the cadavers come from? How were the graves excavated? You have nothing. Zip, zero, nada.
PS. I almost forgot. Nessie ends up wailing, "Where did they goooooooooo?".
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Post by Nessie on Jan 30, 2022 10:23:02 GMT
Hoaxers make the claim that ~900,000 Jews were killed at Treblinka and have nothing but the absurd tales of known liars, about 300 remains from Lukaszkeiwcz and the handful of CS-C's unidentified tiny bone shards along with her "disturbed ground" where giant pits should have been located. You are dishonestly misrepresenting the amount of evidence found. You use a series of illogical arguments to back up your beliefs. Deniers make the claim that c900,000 Jews were transported through TII on their way to be resettled. They had no evidence from any source to prove that claim. It is physically impossible for the Nazis to have transported and accommodated so many people, without leaving any evidence of that happening. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 30, 2022 11:01:26 GMT
It's not illogical for someone who claims to have excavated pits that are up to 12X30X50 meters in size to explain how the excavation was accomplished. After all, there were supposedly eleven such pits with four of them being larger than 12X30X50. It's not illogical to ask what fuel was used to cremate as many as 900,000 cadavers and its source. Your claim that it all happened because it just happened IS illogical bullshit.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 30, 2022 12:10:03 GMT
It's not illogical for someone who claims to have excavated pits that are up to 12X30X50 meters in size to explain how the excavation was accomplished. After all, there were supposedly eleven such pits with four of them being larger than 12X30X50. It's not illogical to ask what fuel was used to cremate as many as 900,000 cadavers and its source. It is indeed perfectly reasonable to ask questions about how something happened. It is illogical to then conclude something did not happen, because we do not have the answers to many of those questions. As usual, you have misrepresented my actual argument. It is logical to conclude something happened when it is evidenced to have happened, even when we do not know precise details about how it happened. You claim it is logical to believe what is not evidenced to have happened and to not care what really happened!!!!  |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 30, 2022 12:58:27 GMT
When someone hasn't any reasonable explanation whatsoever for how something was accomplished it's reasonable to assume he's lying. You can claim to have dug the Grand Canyon in your spare time but until you can show how it was done any reasonable person will assume that you're an effing liar. Just traveling to the Southwest and pointing to the Grand Canyon and saying, "See, I did that a few years ago" is bullshit.
You have NOTHING but a claim that those giant pits were dug. Arad, CS-C, ARC et al. all claim that the M&H draglines dug the graves. That's bullshit and demonstrable bullshit. Your claim that some kind of huge but unknown mystery machine dug the graves and built the stockpiles of ex or, alternately, moved the ex to some unknown location is precisely a, "I dug the Grand Canyon" kind of claim. It's bullshit and you know it.
Your "evidence" isn't anywhere close to being proof. Your witnesses such as Wiernik, Rajchman, Bomba and a host of others are KNOWN liars. Wiernik did NOT get his ears nailed to a wall and Rajchman did NOT see any burning blood and that's just two blatant lies you make excuses for.
Could there be alternate explanations for the holes CS-C claimed to have found? Of course! Is there alternate explanation for the handful of bone shards she found? Of course there is! The best you can do is claim that even though your witnesses are known liars, you have some "evidence" that they told the truth about some things. Your claim that I have to prove an alternate scenario for Treblinka is bullshit. You haven't even come close to proving that it was an extermination facility.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 30, 2022 17:32:51 GMT
When someone hasn't any reasonable explanation whatsoever for how something was accomplished it's reasonable to assume he's lying. You can claim to have dug the Grand Canyon in your spare time but until you can show how it was done any reasonable person will assume that you're an effing liar. Just traveling to the Southwest and pointing to the Grand Canyon and saying, "See, I did that a few years ago" is bullshit. You have NOTHING but a claim that those giant pits were dug. Arad, CS-C, ARC et al. all claim that the M&H draglines dug the graves. That's bullshit and demonstrable bullshit. Your claim that some kind of huge but unknown mystery machine dug the graves and built the stockpiles of ex or, alternately, moved the ex to some unknown location is precisely a, "I dug the Grand Canyon" kind of claim. It's bullshit and you know it. Your "evidence" isn't anywhere close to being proof. Your witnesses such as Wiernik, Rajchman, Bomba and a host of others are KNOWN liars. Wiernik did NOT get his ears nailed to a wall and Rajchman did NOT see any burning blood and that's just two blatant lies you make excuses for. Could there be alternate explanations for the holes CS-C claimed to have found? Of course! Is there alternate explanation for the handful of bone shards she found? Of course there is! The best you can do is claim that even though your witnesses are known liars, you have some "evidence" that they told the truth about some things. Your claim that I have to prove an alternate scenario for Treblinka is bullshit. You haven't even come close to proving that it was an extermination facility. You are trying to make out some very simple projects are like a boy cycling to the moon!!! Think what else German engineers managed during WII. The ships, tanks, planes, rockets, fortifications etc. Many were far more complicated than the construction jobs required to build gas chambers, dig large pits and set pyres using rails.
You are pretending what was physically possible, is impossible. You then claim the mass transportation and accommodation of c2.5 million people without leaving any evidence is possible!!! You are in la-la land.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 30, 2022 17:59:52 GMT
Nessie assumes that the Germans brought the full weight of their war effort to bear solely on Treblinka. The question of what the Germans "coulda" done doesn't enter into it. Nessie claims that all of the testimony by witnesses is irrelevant. The Germans "coulda" done it so they did. As I said before, there's no doubt that thermonuclear bombs can be built but nobody is going to build and test one in their basement.
The submarine pens in France are still there. Many have been repurposed but the excavations and reinforced concrete proved too much to remove. You are assuming the same level of engineering skill and commitment of resources to Treblinka. According to the alleged eyewitnesses that didn't happen and you now dismiss their testimony as irrelevant. Why are you now dismissing that testimony, Nessie?
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