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Post by Sandhurst on Nov 11, 2021 18:04:34 GMT
Those guards fled when the Soviets arrived and that was when the grave robbing started. As most of "the evidence" was allegedly underground, there seems little point in destroying the buildings up top. All the locals knew there was a camp there as they were trading black market goods with the inmates. From Marian Olszuks point of view there was obviously no need to hide anything as nothing went on. So who were they hiding evidence from? From their point of view in 1943 they would probably win the war so they are not going to hide anything from themselves. Seems the Soviets enjoyed using this as an artillery range. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Nov 12, 2021 10:23:00 GMT
C S-C is referring to the cover up that took place at the AR camps. When someone does as much as they can to destroy evidence, it can be inferred they are trying to cover up a crime. That is why the Nazis actions at the AR camps, which had been largely razed to the ground and planted over, and made to look like they had been farmed, but buildings were left for guards to keep people away, is part of the evidence of mass murder. Globocnik reported to Himmler in 1944 on AR and stated www.holocaustresearchproject.org/economics/arbalancesheet.html" For reasons of surveillance in each camp a small farm was created which is occupied by an expert. An income must regularly be paid to him so that he can maintain the small farm." Those guards fled when the Soviets arrived and that was when the grave robbing started. Yes, CSC makes a number of assumptions and even goes into the study with the assumption of mass murder. Indeed, some small number bodies would be there in these camps most likely, and thus would require a soldier to keep an eye on the graves out of respect. |
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Post by Turnagain on Nov 12, 2021 13:15:22 GMT
There's no pretense that CS-C was ever anything but a shill for the holyhoaxers. No question of whether or not "it" happened. Just efforts to find something, anything that would serve to reinforce her preconceived notions.
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Post by Nessie on Nov 12, 2021 18:37:12 GMT
C S-C goes through the evidence as to what happened at TII. She finds that the evidence corroborates and proves mass gassings.
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Post by Agandaur on Nov 12, 2021 18:46:59 GMT
C S-C goes through the evidence as to what happened at TII. She finds that the evidence corroborates and proves mass gassings. I am sure finding a few bone shards and a porcelain trade mark does not evidence anything except human habitation at one point. |
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Post by Nessie on Nov 12, 2021 20:14:18 GMT
C S-C goes through the evidence as to what happened at TII. She finds that the evidence corroborates and proves mass gassings. I am sure finding a few bone shards and a porcelain trade mark does not evidence anything except human habitation at one point. Show your evidence to prove that only a few bone shards and a porcelain trademark is the sum total of the physical evidence from TII. |
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Post by Prudent_Regret on Nov 13, 2021 5:35:04 GMT
C S-C goes through the evidence as to what happened at TII. She finds that the evidence corroborates and proves mass gassings. She found more shark teeth than human teeth at T-II. |
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Post by Turnagain on Nov 13, 2021 8:53:36 GMT
Well, she did find some bones in a cemetery so there's that.
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Post by mrolonzo on Nov 13, 2021 11:14:43 GMT
I am sure finding a few bone shards and a porcelain trade mark does not evidence anything except human habitation at one point. Show your evidence to prove that only a few bone shards and a porcelain trademark is the sum total of the physical evidence from TII. Show us a few pictures of these mass graves at T2 then. By the way, you being a police investigator, have you been to this site yourself? |
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Post by Robert on Nov 18, 2021 14:09:24 GMT
"Even if you had proved the way all of the witnesses described... graves... are impossible, which you have not, that does not mean therefore no... graves..."
There are graves within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp? How many? |
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Post by Robert on Nov 18, 2021 14:13:27 GMT
What did happen inside TII, 1942-3? Show... any physical and archaeological evidence gathered from the camp site. Good idea. Please do the same as concerns the graves that you allege are within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp. |
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Post by Robert on Nov 18, 2021 14:19:00 GMT
Unlike you, I do not believe what is not evidenced and proved. How many graves have been conclusively proven to currently exist within the boundary of Treblinka II? |
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Post by Robert on Nov 18, 2021 14:53:30 GMT
"the witnesses are not lying that TII was a death camp" So if "the witnesses" are not lying, then are you saying that what they alleged about mass graves is true? |
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Post by Turnagain on Nov 19, 2021 0:12:21 GMT
"the witnesses are not lying that TII was a death camp" So if "the witnesses" are not lying, then are you saying that what they alleged about mass graves is true? A witness could claim that the Jews got steamed to death in a giant teapot and Nessie would say that he's telling the truth since the witness is essentially saying that Jews were killed in a "chamber". |
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Post by Agandaur on Nov 19, 2021 0:46:25 GMT
A witness could claim that the Jews got steamed to death in a giant teapot and Nessie would say that he's telling the truth since the witness is essentially saying that Jews were killed in a "chamber". In Belzec it was claimed they were killed in giant electric baths, which when the water was lowered the floor was heated to white heat (with electricity); this cremated the deceased. The floor opened up with ashes falling directly into tippers below the electrocution chamber. Of course it was claimed that those unfortunates got "lobstered" in the only brick buildings at Treblinka II. Of course Nessie says that this did not happen, the hearsay evidence being impermissible in a court of law, except at Nuremberg In the Nuremberg Trials (IMT, NCA and NMT) steam chambers was introduced as an accusation to the Nazi defendants. Its origin was the Polish government in exileโs document 3311-PS. This document was submitted as evidence to the IMT II, IMT XXXII, NCA I, NCA IIIII and NMT IIII trials. The constitution of the IMT has the following article: So yes death by Tea Pot could be accepted by the NMT if it has probative value. |
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