Post by been_there on Jun 7, 2022 14:18:28 GMT
QUESTION: is that absence of corroborating empirical evidence for the [mass-gassing] belief-system important?
ANSWER: er, no, not if you are a cult-victim of the belief-system. Otherwise, YES!!!! OBVIOUSLY yes! 🙄
Because in legal trials there is something called: “beyond a reasonable doubt”. This standard of proof is much higher than some secular, pseudo-historical, phantasy of existentialist special-suffering. In murder trials where an innocent person may lose their life either through execution or via incarceration in prison till they die, the importance of “beyond a reasonable doubt” is even more crucial. Yet the ‘holocaust’ claim of a Jew-genocide resulting in 2.7 million Jews who were supposedly gassed (2,757,000 to be precise) is NOWHERE NEAR being proven ”beyond a reasonable doubt”. On the contrary! Which is precisely why expressing any type of doubt is forbidden and even criminalised.
ANSWER: er, no, not if you are a cult-victim of the belief-system. Otherwise, YES!!!! OBVIOUSLY yes! 🙄
Because in legal trials there is something called: “beyond a reasonable doubt”. This standard of proof is much higher than some secular, pseudo-historical, phantasy of existentialist special-suffering. In murder trials where an innocent person may lose their life either through execution or via incarceration in prison till they die, the importance of “beyond a reasonable doubt” is even more crucial. Yet the ‘holocaust’ claim of a Jew-genocide resulting in 2.7 million Jews who were supposedly gassed (2,757,000 to be precise) is NOWHERE NEAR being proven ”beyond a reasonable doubt”. On the contrary! Which is precisely why expressing any type of doubt is forbidden and even criminalised.
The holocaust isn’t a ‘missing person’ investigation!...
He now says it is ONLY a missing person investigation!!
What a marvelously moronic reply! 🙂🤪
And the reality being missed is that I have NEVER “claimed those people were not killed”. I have ONLY pointed out there is NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE of that, at the sites claimed, by the methods claimed, on the scale claimed.
Q: Why can this person never understand such a simple point.
A: Because of cult-like belief + a very tenuous grasp of reality.
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The holocaust is not a ‘missing person’ investigation!
It is an epoch-altering, ‘mass-murder’ allegation. And the credibility of what has been presented as‘evidence’ is so weak, that “reasonable doubt” I suggest is the default position of anyone who looks at it in detail with an open mind and without preconceived bias.
Ah, but there’s the rub: looking at it in detail with an open mind and without preconceived bias.
This person’s list is erroneously claimed to be evidence of mass-gassing extermination of nealy a million people at Treblinka (TII mostly). It has been compiled by an insanely delusional and wilfully ignorant person who has shown themself to be approaching the topic as a closed-minded cult-believer intent on defending AT ALL COSTS this disputed WW2 atrocity propaganda narrative.
The reality that any open-minded, intelligent, sane person will concede is that NOTHING in the following list would be accepted in a court of law as definitive, conclusive proof of the mass-murder of 900,000 people by gas. Because THAT is what is alleged here! And THAT is what is being debated here.
We are not debating whether there was a camp here.
We are not discussing whether people were transported here.
We are debating whether 900,000 people were killed and buried here!
There is NOTHING in the following list that either alone or taken together in support of that calumny withstands critical scrutiny.
There is NOTHING there that either alone or taken together proves “there is no other reasonable explanation that can come from the evidence”.
That the ludicrous testimony of discredited liars and phantasists like Avraham Bomba, Yankel Wiernik, Richard Glazar, Eliahu Rosenberg, etc., are included here, is actually PROOF that the person compiling this list has extremely LOW standards for guaging what is credible ’evidence’.
This list is therefore ironically further proof that the bar is set so low that we can safely conclude the holocaust mass-gassing genocide is NOT a genuine historiography. It shows it is instead a quasi-religious mass-delusion.
It is an epoch-altering, ‘mass-murder’ allegation. And the credibility of what has been presented as‘evidence’ is so weak, that “reasonable doubt” I suggest is the default position of anyone who looks at it in detail with an open mind and without preconceived bias.
Ah, but there’s the rub: looking at it in detail with an open mind and without preconceived bias.
This person’s list is erroneously claimed to be evidence of mass-gassing extermination of nealy a million people at Treblinka (TII mostly). It has been compiled by an insanely delusional and wilfully ignorant person who has shown themself to be approaching the topic as a closed-minded cult-believer intent on defending AT ALL COSTS this disputed WW2 atrocity propaganda narrative.
The reality that any open-minded, intelligent, sane person will concede is that NOTHING in the following list would be accepted in a court of law as definitive, conclusive proof of the mass-murder of 900,000 people by gas. Because THAT is what is alleged here! And THAT is what is being debated here.
We are not debating whether there was a camp here.
We are not discussing whether people were transported here.
We are debating whether 900,000 people were killed and buried here!
There is NOTHING in the following list that either alone or taken together in support of that calumny withstands critical scrutiny.
There is NOTHING there that either alone or taken together proves “there is no other reasonable explanation that can come from the evidence”.
That the ludicrous testimony of discredited liars and phantasists like Avraham Bomba, Yankel Wiernik, Richard Glazar, Eliahu Rosenberg, etc., are included here, is actually PROOF that the person compiling this list has extremely LOW standards for guaging what is credible ’evidence’.
This list is therefore ironically further proof that the bar is set so low that we can safely conclude the holocaust mass-gassing genocide is NOT a genuine historiography. It shows it is instead a quasi-religious mass-delusion.
