That Jews denounce the "Holocaust religion" makes the revisionist claim it is a hoax, even more suspect. How can a hoax survive, when people will not cooperate to maintain it?
Jeez louise! 🤦♂️ Yet more illogical nonsense from the princess of Moronia. 🙄🤪🤪🤪
First of all, the ex-Jewish, ex-Israeli author who wrote that article is demonised as a ‘self-hating jewish holocaust denier’. He gets banned from performing at certain venues as punishment.
Anyone who support his human-right to express an honestly-held opinion ALSO get persecuted and lose their jobs. This doofus is arguing from ignorance the whole time. If one or two or even a few ‘break the silence’ in what kind of pea-brained intellect does that mean ‘no hoax then’.
Secondly, it is a seriously idiotic non sequitur to assert that because a tiny, tiny minority of jews in the last few decades have denounced the ‘holocaust’ as the secular ‘religion’ it has become, therefore that tiny minority: i.) denounce the tragedy that clearly did befall the European Jews regarded as ’unwelcome’, during WW2; ii.) have stopped believing ALL the colossal amount of b*llsh#t conditioning we have all received that demands belief in the mass-gassing myth; iii.) that a hoax deluding the majority into believing that myth hasn’t occurred.
Take some lessons in logic and critical thinking, and stop posting such blatantly stupid nonsense.
Here are some thoughts written by a Jewish person who created a discussion group called ‘Holocaust Forensics’ at the Quora group. This I regard as further evidence that increasing numbers of intelligent, rational, reasonable people — WHO ARE NOT MOTIVATED BY ’ANTI-SEMITISM’ or neo-Nationalist, facist agendas — are seeing through their own brainwashing, mind manipulation and life-long indoctrination into the holyHoax religion:
…There is no denying that one of the major goals of the National Socialist regime was largely to ethnically cleanse Jews from the German empire and elsewhere. But we are also here to dispel a number of long-standing Holocaust hoaxes. And there are many.
If you are among the arrogant and insolent who think the Holocaust is beyond historical inquiry or debate, then this group is not for you, and we ask that you please kindly unfollow and move on.
If you have taken on the Holocaust as part of your personal ego or group identity then you probably will feel uncomfortable here where historical debate is taking place.
If you stay, be civil, respectful, and calm, this is a very emotional subject. Try to be cool and not take skepticism and forensic inquiry as a personal attack.
Before posting to this group or commenting, you must read the Wikipedia article on logical fallacies.
Sincerely, M. Sims the Great Grandson of Holocaust Survivors.
PS: Thank you to everyone who participates here , and please thank the management class at Quora for allowing this controversial safe space to exist. I don’t know how long we will survive given the global climate of censorship and cancel-culture, but for now, enjoy the opportunity to learn, question, and explore history while the ability to do so still lasts. Back up all your answers locally! Connect by email through private messages with other Holocaust revisionists here. Keep the conversation, dialogue, discourse, and debate moving, and grooving.
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If you want to help promote this space while it still exists, I am asking you to please once per week ask a new question about the Holocaust on Quora, and answer another question on the Holocaust. The result would be 50 new questions were asked and 50 questions answered by each of us Holocaust revisionists. If enough of us, as scientists and historians, participate in this effort, we can bring more attention to the inquiry of this controversial subject. Please share Holocaust questions with this group.
Share your Holocaust revisionism work here, it will boost the space and encourage dialogue from people who are genuine about investigating this important contention of what occurred during the 1930s and early-half of the 1940s. People who are ideologically possessed about the Holocaust will refuse to participate here, which might be a good thing, as it will allow serious and mature adults to look into the Shoah with dispassionate minds, and avoid the lowbrow adhominem crowd. Hasbaras need not apply if you plan on being disruptive.
Welcome to the Gladiator’s Arena of the Mind.
Let us have Holocaust scholars and revisionists square off in this intellectual arena without logical fallacies.
Let us have a conversation with the whole world.
Let us have a great Holocaust debate
Let us continue to inquire with a logical mind, intensely between now and 2045.
Let us reach out to people who believe the common Holocaust stories.
Let us have the whole world examine the Holocaust with twenty-first-century forensic science approaches and learn what objectively happened.
…I need your help, we are shadow banned:
I asked some of my friends in Los Angeles who attended my Bar Mitzvah to each create an account on Quora and search the keyword Holocaust to see if in the drop-down box results, our space “Holocaust Forensics” comes up as a choice. They unanimously said it didn’t, but after they followed/subscribed to the group via a link and searched again it did show up in some search results sometimes. The conclusion is the Quora algorithm is manipulated against our space. Our time is running out.
We are officially soft shadow banned on Quora, bringing us one step forward to being outright purged. I want to personally thank everyone here who participated in this group. I learned a great deal. It helped me to learn a lot about Jewish psychology and evolutionary strategy which allowed me to learn a lot about myself. I also learned a lot of new scientific insights about the Jewish Holocaust narrative and why some of that false history is still being uncovered. This is a process and journey not a destination.
I’m Just keeping you updated on the status of Freedom of Speech for this safe space where independent Holocaust researchers, Jews, and Gentiles, alike, can discuss their findings without Jewish supremacist and Zionist censorship taking our constitutional rights away. The hasbara legions are strong on Quora, and well-funded.
I have received many death threats from my “fellow” Jews and often get accused of having been raped by my Rabbi (Ian White made that accusation against me). I was never molested, but many of my coreligionists growing up were inappropriately abused by perverts. Paedophilia is common in the Jewish community and it is one of the last taboos. We need to be able to talk about all manner of controversial subjects without Jewish ethnic activists using fear-mongering and working to stop those much-needed conversations. We need to be vigilant against the White supremacist Jews who work at highly sophisticated levels to control the predominant and orthodox narratives of history, using the media, government, and academia for these self-serving ends. And I wish to state affirmatively that I am proudly Jewish, and I am not a self-hating Jew for seeking the objective truth.
…Hear Ye, Hear Ye!
Call to Action! Today! Now!
Calling all 21st-Century Scientists and Historians!
Holocaust revisionists are a persecuted ultra-minority. We are seeking our liberty, freedom, civil rights, and human rights to have a difference of opinion about the mainstream traditional Holocaust orthodoxy. We seek first-amendment protections worldwide for Holocaust revisionists, especially in countries where the official Jewish Shoah narrative has become legalized dogma. We seek to create a world without ADL, Big-Tech cancel culture, and globalist censorship of controversial opinions. We seek to create a world where people can legally make conclusions and express opinions based on data, information, knowledge, wisdom, and facts, even if those conclusions are not popular or politically correct. We must reach out to people outside our own circles who do not believe the Holocaust revisionist pursuit and challenge their basic assumptions or preconceived conclusions. We should be kind, caring, thoughtful, and compassionate when we reach out to people who believe in mythologies. I used to be one of those people, and I got incensed when people doubted the 6 million mantras.
…I was told growing up that 6 million Jews were crowded into homicidal gas chambers disguised as showers and exterminated with pesticides, then fully cremated 8 at a time in a single cremation oven within or less than 15 to 20 minutes or so. I can’t believe that I drank the Kool-Aid, hopefully, I can rectify this situation by remaining open-minded and pursuing the objective truth where ever it might take me.
I wrote about parallels between the Holocaust with its being a cult-like religion and that post was deleted by Quora. You are not allowed to make comparisons between Holocaust believers and people who are in a cult, even if science, psychiatry, sociology, and psychology show there is some truth to it. They are making what opinions can be allowed to be said more narrow on this subject.
We are living in a big tech dystopia, almost. I’ve had many of my posts on Quora deleted that had no personal attacks in them, I was just presenting a different scientific opinion based on logical arguments. I’ve had several of my posts on the Holocaust deleted. It hurts to know that we live in a world where there are no full intellectual freedoms. As Elon Musk and Jonathan Greenblatt, both said, Freedom of Speech is NOT freedom of reach.
Welcome to the most controversial Quora group in the multiverse where science and mythology clash as titans over the destiny of human civilization.
Begin by reading this highly respected Pew investigation into Jewish attitudes. It unlocks our tribal psychology to reveal the Holocaust in a majority of Jews is becoming a new sect within Judaism above religious considerations. This is my interpretation. This must be read. My interpretation is identity becomes ego and ideological zealotry as we are a super sensitive people, who might perceive doubts or skepticism about this historical event called the Shoah, as a personal attack on them or even all of us. Though we are not a monolithic Ethnoreligion. You would be surprised at how many Jews I know who are skeptical of the orthodox Holocaust story.
We need have no doubt that young people around the world are increasingly recognising the “truth” of revisionist research and writings and will ultimately reject the “fake” version of WW2 history that is promoted under the rubric of ‘holocaust’. It is occurring now but because of the fear of stigma and ostracisation it is only the few who will express it publically. Why we can remain optimistic given the increasing laws to punish dissent,is because once all the so-called ‘survivors’ have died, the societal pressure to keep the myth going to spare their feelings and to avoid outing them as liars will also go with them. But most of all attitudes will change because we have an attachment to truth on our side whereas the ‘holocaust’ promoter policy is based on protecting lies and out-dated, war-time propaganda. In the long run, truth is more powerful than lies.
Here is further proof that the cult of holocaust belief no longer has the same sway over the minds of millions of people. It is a recent post by Mark Sims who describes himself as “the grandson of a holocaust survivor”. Amazingly it is a post on a chat group being hosted by ‘Quora’ which is a social-media site created and owned by American jews.
Dear Holocaust inquirers, Forensic Historians, Scientists, and Researchers,
We are skeptical by nature of the orthodox government propaganda and official narratives that come at us aggressively with the price tag of believe it or not at your own peril. We have seen the lives of skeptics destroyed with the thought crime consequences of jail/prison, violence, and financial ruin. We will not relent, we will not tire, and we will pursue the truth no matter what the cost to our lives. Besides you only live once. Holocaust Revisionism is no longer a fringe historiography, it is now a mainstream curiosity thanks to a series of events that triggered the political establishment to convulse over a harmless 5-star meal at the shore of Palm Beach in November 2022.
December 2nd, 2022. The 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden, tweeted out a forceful statement of condemnation about Donald Trump’s controversial dinner brief at Maralago with “Antisemite” Kanye West (YE), “Provocateur” Milo Y, and “Neo-Nazi / Holocaust Denier” Nick Fuentes. The result is some random dude replied to the POTUS with a 3-choice survey asking people their opinion on the Holocaust. 30-K votes later the final results shocked the world of social media. About 1 in 5 people expressed doubt about the dominant Holocaust narrative. People from all over the globe clutched their pearls and expressed outrage.
Apparently, 1 in 3 students in Canada doubts the Holocaust, so that North American government is making it illegal (criminalizing it) to be skeptical about the Shoah. We are literally living in a Jewish Supremacist dystopia, where my people who constitute 2% to 3% of a given nation’s population are making official rules outlawing the other 97%-98% from openly expressing skepticism or doubt.
Here are excerpts from an article in a Jewish Israeli newspaper about a Jordanian conference in October 2019, conceding the fact that the holocaust narrative as accurate history is no longer believed in the Middle East.
In October, a conference was organized for Jordanian researchers and journalists under the banner “The Holocaust – the biggest lie in modern history”. Organizers claimed that between 600,000-800,000 victims were killed in the Nazi concentration camps, and of these, only half were Jewish, meaning that no more than 400,000 Jews were killed in the Holocaust. ...the... claim [was] made that there is no evidence proving the Holocaust – no bones, cremated bodies, gas chambers or any other physical indication... At the end of the conference, one of the speakers said, “The Jews lie so much (about the Holocaust) that they have come to believe their own lies.”
There is a short clip from the conference with English subtitles of the Arabic speakers. This translation of what was said at the Jordanian cinference is from MEMRI, a notorious Israeli propganda company created by an ex-Mossad intelligence officer. MEMRI is famous for its unreliable (deliberately distorted) translations of Arabic to negatively portray Arabs.
I have recently been noticing the similarity of the exaggerated, self-pitying, horrific-but-false Jewish claims regarding October 7 with Jewish holyhoax claims.
Anyone else here notice the sadomasochistic similarities?
Both rely on claiming horrific, sadistic crimes committed against people purely because they are ’jews’.
Both the Holyhoax claims and the Oct 7th claims have the same format: • poor jews who did nothing wrong, get attacked, • poor jews who did nothing wrong get subjected to sadistic treatment which other Jews then arrange to be circulated worldwide in MSM ’news’ in horrific detail, • when the claims are shown to be falsified or exaggerated Jews insist they are still the victims by screaming ‘anti-semitism’ at anyone doubting their claims.
Interestingly, Jews and Jewish organisations themselves seem to have noticed the similarity of approach, and have tried to utilise it in their favour. Consequently they have said: 1.) all Palestinians are new racist Nazis, 2.) Oct 7 was a new Holocaust, a new attempt at genocide.
Which is an extremely disgusting reversal of the actual reality now occurring. Because 1.) Israel has easily the most racist and Nationalist population AND has the most right-wing, racist government and other institutions (e.g. judiciary, army, etc.,) on the planet. So if any nation deserves the distinction if being called neo-Nazi (= new nationalists) it is Israel. Because 2.) the mass-murder of Palestinian civilians has been occurring for decades and is increasing daily plus is being filmed, bragged about by Israeli soldiers and govt officials and circulated worlwide on social media!
Yet, just as with the Holyhoax narrative, western governments and media repeat the Israeli lies without challenge. They insist it is ’poor jews’ who are the victims.
So in case readers here weren’t aware, the Israeli stories of decapitated babies, raped women, women paraded naked, innocent music-festival goers murdered and raped were ALL FALSE! They were lies designed to affect people on a gut-level to make them feel emotionally involved and to get support for themselves worldwide as they embarked on the largest mass-murder and ethnic cleansing in living memory.
The evidence slowly trickled out that there were NO ‘decapitated babies’. There were no ‘rapes’. That was a calculated lie to shock world opinion into supporting their pre-planned ethnic cleansing of Gaza, by viewing it as justified Israeli retaliation.
The reality seems to be that almost ALL the Israeli civilian deaths that day were victims of the IDF and their ‘hannibal directive’. Militants from Palestinian resistance groups had attempted to kidnap Israeli civilians and take them to Gaza to use as hostage swaps, to release the many thousands of Gazans (including women and children) imprisoned in Israel often without charge, trial or visiting rights.
The majority of the Israelis who died on Oct 7 were military or police who engaged the Hamas militants in gun battles. All but one of the Israeli civilians were killed by the IDF themselves. And that one exception — according to a kidnapped Israeli civilian ’survivor’ — was a death by accident.
The truth appears to be that Israel allowed people to cross their apartheid ‘security’ barriers. Israeli, retired security personal were initially reported in Israeli news saying that it was IMPOSSIBLE for even a cat to come within metres of their barriers without automatic alarms going off. So armed men crossing with cars and bulldozers and being undetected for hours was, according to them, an impossibilty.
So the civilian Jews who died on Oct 7th weren’t victims of Hamas anti-semitism or genocidal intent. Those were calculated lies! They were atrocity propaganda,
SUMMARY: Jews lied to portray themselves as poor victims of irrational and completely undeserved/unjustified prejudice / anti-semitism.
So I was pleased to notice I am not alone in noticing the similarity of mass-media lies regarding the Holyhoax and the Oct 7th.
Ron Unz‘s new article “American Pravda: Israel and the Holocaust Hoax” opens with a review of Tom Segev’s The Seventh Million: Israel and the Holocaust. Unz notes that Segev’s research confirms Lenni Brenner’s argument that intense Nazi-Zionist cooperation throughout the 1930s set the stage for the creation of Israel. But Segev’s account of the Holocaust draws heavily on such highly dubious sources as the sadomasochistic fantasist and “Auschwitz survivor” Yehiel De-Nur, whose ludicrously pornographic accounts of life in the camps were eagerly devoured by the founding generation of Israel.
Unz notes: “In reading Segev’s account of the role of the Holocaust in Israeli society and the sort of outrageous Holocaust stories that dominated the narrative in that country, I couldn’t avoid noticing a strong connection to much more recent events. The surprisingly successful Hamas attack on October 7th was deeply embarrassing to the Israelis [yeah, yeah 🙄], and pro-Israel propagandists soon began heavily emphasizing ridiculous hoaxes such as the claims of forty beheaded babies or a baby roasted in an oven. All of these frauds were provided by extremely disreputable characters, but eagerly accepted and promoted by leading Western political elites and media outlets.”
Is the canonical account of the Holocaust, like the “beheaded and roasted babies” myths of October 7, the product of mentally disturbed fantasists like Yehiel De-Nur and Yossi Landau? Is there something about Jewish culture that favours the production of sadomasochistic fantasy as a response to tribal trauma?
And/or something about Jewish power that forces the whole Western world to accept such insane fantasies as historical reality?