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Post by Turnagain on Jan 15, 2022 21:45:27 GMT
TheLittleGreyRabbitofInle said:
Don't forget the Jews killed with steam, vacuum, beaten to death, mauled by dogs, shot while climbing a rickety jungle gym, killed with the pedal powered brain-bashing machine, drowned in wells or were electrocuted on the electric Jew tilt-a-whirl. They were all then cremated on the magic Jew barbeque.
Thanks to the internet and unfortunately for you hoaxers, the bizarre claims of the alleged eyewitnesses are becoming generally known and people are having their "WTF" moments. For an ever growing segment of the population, the holyhoax is becoming a subject of derision and laughter.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 16, 2022 0:23:38 GMT
Rabbit said:
Uh-huh, details don't matter. "Where did they goooooo?" is the important question. Well, they for damned sure weren't killed in the manner described by the lie-witnesses so exactly what difference does it make where the effing Jews went?
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Post by blake121666 on Jan 16, 2022 0:38:38 GMT
Korherr's report is concerned with making Europe Jew free. Plenty of the wartime documents are concerned about making places being Jew free. We are talking about the fate of Jews under German control here - not your "under control of the Soviets" crapola. Germans wanted their areas Jew free. The numbers I've referenced are the Germans' estimates of the Jews they came across - not your obfuscations about Soviets.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 16, 2022 0:56:05 GMT
Korherr's report is concerned with making Europe Jew free. Plenty of the wartime documents are concerned about making places being Jew free. We are talking about the fate of Jews under German control here - not your "under control of the Soviets" crapola. Germans wanted their areas Jew free. The numbers I've referenced are the Germans' estimates of the Jews they came across - not your obfuscations about Soviets. Uh-huh, your "documents" supersede the laws of physics and are "proven" by the post war Soviets. Whether or not the "documents" are genuine is one unresolved question and your interpretation is another. In the meantime, you continue to claim that impossibilities and improbabilities are the gospel truth. "Don't pay any attention to those witnesses. Just look at my document". Neither have you explained why the fate of a little over a half million Jews determines the validity of the six million claim.
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Post by blake121666 on Jan 16, 2022 1:03:22 GMT
Korherr's report is concerned with making Europe Jew free. Plenty of the wartime documents are concerned about making places being Jew free. We are talking about the fate of Jews under German control here - not your "under control of the Soviets" crapola. Germans wanted their areas Jew free. The numbers I've referenced are the Germans' estimates of the Jews they came across - not your obfuscations about Soviets. Uh-huh, your "documents" supersede the laws of physics and are "proven" by the post war Soviets. Whether or not the "documents" are genuine is one unresolved question and your interpretation is another. In the meantime, you continue to claim that impossibilities and improbabilities are the gospel truth. "Don't pay any attention to those witnesses. Just look at my document". Neither have you explained why the fate of a little over a half million Jews determines the validity of the six million claim.
You've gone too far off the topic of what should be taught. Obsess over your obsessions somewhere else. The details are not so slamdunk as to disprove the understanding of the genocide in its broad outline - and even in most of its details. |
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Post by blake121666 on Jan 16, 2022 1:10:11 GMT
I should change my ID to blake121666. Turnagain thinks that link might tell me something I don't know.  The very first statement on it is an ignorance about cremations, for crying out loud. Cremation capacity is not any issue in the claims even if everything denialists say about that were true. But it's somehow a slamdunk to that first poster!  Why did you post that ridiculous link, Turnagain. You could educate all of those idiots yourself about their weird reasons for denial. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 16, 2022 1:17:23 GMT
Uh-huh, your "documents" supersede the laws of physics and are "proven" by the post war Soviets. Whether or not the "documents" are genuine is one unresolved question and your interpretation is another. In the meantime, you continue to claim that impossibilities and improbabilities are the gospel truth. "Don't pay any attention to those witnesses. Just look at my document". Neither have you explained why the fate of a little over a half million Jews determines the validity of the six million claim.
You've gone too far off the topic of what should be taught. Obsess over your obsessions somewhere else. The details are not so slamdunk as to disprove the understanding of the genocide in its broad outline - and even in most of its details. The subject is, "Changing perceptions and attitudes to a WW2 narrative." How is the perceptions of the spurious claims for the holyhoax irrelevant to "Changing perceptions and attitudes..."? The fact is that you don't want to discuss such items as, "Where did Koherr claim that the Jews were to be murdered?" Neither do you want to discuss the perceptions of people about the holyhoax on alt websites such as "POAL".
Why don't you want to discuss the fact that the utter impossibilities claimed by the alleged witnesses change perceptions of the official holyhoax narrative?
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 16, 2022 1:26:11 GMT
Rabbit wrote:
The subject of this thread is "Changing perceptions and attitudes to a WW2 narrative." That "ridiculous link" is an example of people who have changed their perception/attitude toward the holyhoax.
What the hell are you maundering about?
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Post by been_there on Jan 16, 2022 8:17:38 GMT
Here is further evidence that the public’s understanding of the ‘h’-narrative is changing. The way in which the Holocaust narrative needs to change is from... [blah, blah, blah]...Both sides blather on in their ignorant understandings about work camps. Do you agree that the public’s understanding of the ‘h’-narrative is changing? And do you agree that the change is towards increasing awareness that ‘the holocaust’ as history is deeply flawed and innaccurate? |
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Post by been_there on Jan 16, 2022 8:29:21 GMT
Uh-huh, your "documents" supersede the laws of physics and are "proven" by the post war Soviets...
...you continue to claim that impossibilities and improbabilities are the gospel truth. "Don't pay any attention to those witnesses. Just look at my document". Neither have you explained why the fate of a little over a half million Jews determines the validity of the six million claim.
You've gone too far off the topic of what should be taught... This ‘topic’ is NOT about “what should be taught”. What a strange miscomprehension. 🤔 See the two questions above if you yourself want to get back on topic. |
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Post by been_there on Jan 16, 2022 9:42:26 GMT
[snip] ... We are talking about the fate of Jews under German control here - not your "under control of the Soviets"... [snip] Uh-huh, your "documents" supersede the laws of physics and are "proven" by the post war Soviets... [snip]
1. No we are NOT talking about “the fate of Jews here” in this topic-thread. 2. Thanks Turnagain for the link which IS on-topic and which is a further example that attitudes ARE changing. Specifically, that they are changing towards intelligent disbelief and informed skepticism of this narrative. In that link it appears NONE of those who responded there ‘believed’ the official H-narrative on the death toll. Something that Blake and other H-believers try and deflect into the ’where did they go’ obfuscation. Interestingly also, someone replied with a link to an article from the Unz review. That article I also regard as evidence that the compulsory ’H’ narrative is no longer accepted as either accurate or above critical assessment. On the contrary, it shows that increasingly people are not only doubting it, but are supportive of critical analysis of it. Here is an except from that essay: Yes, profound consequences. Three of which the author went on to elucidate. One consequence that he didn’t mention is that the rather weak and frankly idiotic obfuscatory tactic of asking ’where did they go’ as a legitimate argument will become obsolete and self-humiliating. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 16, 2022 13:14:48 GMT
been-there wrote:
On almost all websites that don't actively censor negative comments about the holyhoax, posters are generally skeptical of the claims made for the hoax whenever the topic arises. Lots of the comments are made off-hand as in using the hoax as a matter of derision or humor. The actual subject under discussion may not have anything to do with the hoax. Trying to get people to continue believing in the hoax after they've heard some of the bizarre fantasies of the alleged eyewitnesses is a hard sell.
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Post by 𝐋𝐥𝐚𝐞𝐳𝐧𝐨𝐝𝐫 on Jan 16, 2022 18:40:56 GMT
Off topic posts have been moved to another thread.
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Post by been_there on Jan 16, 2022 20:36:31 GMT
Here is further evidence that the public’s understanding of the ‘h’-narrative is changing. And the change is towards increasing awareness that ‘the holocaust’ as history is deeply flawed and innaccurate. Here is an admission — in this case by Jewish organisations dedicated to promoting a particular version of WW2 history — that ‘holocaust revisionism’ is gaining adherents. And to combat this increase in factual awareness of the actual empirical and historical evidence regarding the Jewish experience during WW2, these Jewish organisations are increasing their programmes to indoctrinate impressionable school children with their legally-protected version. They presumably are working on the principal that humans have difficulty correcting beliefs that they have accepted when young. The principal that Mark Twain referred to when he wrote: “it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled”.
At a ceremony inaugurating the indoctrination programme, it was explained WHY it is thought necessary to force a flawed, innaccurate, out-of-context and legally protected ahistorical narrative upon new generations of children: it is because of a perceived never-ending Jewish, existentialist crisis.
Read the whole article, from which these excerpts are taken, here:
www.jns.org/yad-vashem-launches-academy-to-train-future-leaders-in-holocaust-awareness/Here is another proof that the understanding and attitude to this legally protected ‘history’ is changing. For decades the promoters of the ‘holocaust’ narrative who have been relentlessly claiming there was an attempted genocide of ALL Jews, have also insisted that this claim is the most evidenced historiography ever! So... Check out this filmed interview with Ephraim Kaye, a director at Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Israel. In this segment taken from an interview on how to combat increasing acceptance of revisionist arguments (which he falsely misrepresents as ‘denial’) Mr. Kaye admits that in reality there is no physical, forensic, archeological empirical evidence for the Jewish, genocidal, mass-murder narrative called ‘the holocaust’. www.bitchute.com/video/RIks1sxQ19Xl/ |
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Post by been_there on Jan 17, 2022 21:52:56 GMT
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