Dissolution of European judentum.

Korherr's Report has a reduction of European Jewry of over 4 million by the end of '42 - half emigrated and half dead.  So about 2 million dead by '42.

It is interpreted as 633,300 shot in the Russian Territories and about 1.45 million killed in the AR camps.

Such is roughly the current understanding on the matter.

'43 and after would have it that over 5 million European Jews died altogether - out of about 10 million at the start of the war.

I could give a detailed break-down of best estimates but why bother?  What is your point?

If your only point is that crazy things have been claimed about the particulars about the Jewish deaths, that does not explain the disappearance of European Jewry at war's end.  You sure as hell get nowhere in explaining the matter by blind denial.

My point is that the general public's understanding on the matter is a confusion and conflation of Jewish deaths as having more to do with work camps than is said to be the case.

So when Tim Kelly refers to the Holocaust, he has in his mind something to do with work camps.  And he thinks that has more importance to the historical narrative about Jewish deaths than it does.  The public's general narrative about the Holocaust is ignorance about the circumstances of the murders.  And revisionists are simply denying things that might or might not be true but are simply irrelevant.  The typical denier simply spouts off about irrelevant things.

Education should address the matter so that idiots aren't questioning or defending the Holocaust in such ignorantly irrelevant ways.  I think any reasonable person would agree to that.

EDIT:  I edited the dates above.  I mistakenly wrote '41 and '42 when I meant '42 and '43.  Korherr's initial report was about European Jewish numbers up to the end of '42 - not '41 as I wrote.

I guess you could add that into your education curriculum about the Holocaust. The point being discussed is that of disabusing the ignorant general public about what is claimed for the Holocaust.  Tim Kelly and those like them should not conflate the murders of the Jews as having as much to do with his conception of "camps" as he evidences having.  The general public's "skepticism" is more a foolhardy ignorant skepticism based on woefully false conceptions on the matter.  And it is a silly farce.

Any "historical revision" needs to address the issue of the disappearance of the Eastern European Jews.  Not doing so makes them irrelevant boobs barking under a bridge in the rain - not serious persons addressing the matter.

One could nitpick the details as you have switched off on to here but if you don't have an alternative to where these Jews went you are a carnival barker.

Rabbit wrote:

I have to agree with Rabbit that the claims of the holyhoaxers are indeed "silly farce". My conception of the camps doesn't come from Tim Kelly (whoever the hell he is) but from alleged eyewitnesses such as Wiernik, Rajchman, Gley, et al. You have a report, a piece of paper versus the claims made by alleged eyewitnesses who claimed to have witnessed the entire murderous events at AR camps such as Treblinka. They state unequivocally that they SAW what happened and described it in detail. What can't you understand about that?


Suuuure, forget the lies about the AR camps and let's concentrate on the unknown fate of Jews under control of the Soviets. "Where did they goooo?" That's for ~630,000 Jews. That's a far cry from the holyhoax six (6) million that were supposedly murdered by the eeevul Narzis. Apparently you're saying that if revisionists can't account for a half million Eastern European Jews then that proves that the six million claim is true.

We know what happened to the Jews who had fled or escaped from Nazi controlled territory into Soviet controlled territory, from the 1939 partition of Poland to the 1941 invasion and onwards. There is evidence as to what happened to them whilst they were under Soviet control. We do not need to ask "where did they go?" because we know.

It is the Jews who did not flee or escape Nazi control, and who were imprisoned in ghettos, and in 1942-4 were then sent to the AR camps, or A-B Kremas, where that question arises.

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The ‘holocaust’ narrative claims that in 1939 there were approximately 3,474,000 Jews in Poland, (go here for one source stating that figure).

Yet here below is a Jewish report from 1943 admitting that 1,800,000 Jews from Poland were ”evacuated into the interior of the Soviet Union”.
Which would mean approximately 1,700,000 Polish Jews did not go to Soviet territory. [3,474,000 minus 1,800,000 = 1,674,000]

Yet the ’holocaust’ narrative also claims that ”at least 3,000,000” Polish Jews were mass-murdered in the ’holocaust’. 🤔
For just one example of that claim see here at the USHMM: “In addition, the Germans murdered at least 3 million Jewish citizens of Poland.”

Most sane, honest, rational people who are not in the grip of decades of psychotic, pseudo-historical conditioning should be able to admit that these figures don”t add up.
Regretably, such people currently are a small minority. But that number is increasing, despite the threat of being labelled ’neo-Nazis’ and/or ’anti-semites’.

There were waves of mass deportation to the interior by the Soviets in all of their conquered territories. The Jews were horded in with the others, but the amount of people deported in in the millions. The deportations covered the periods before Barbarossa during the war and post war. This accounts for a massive swarth of missing people. almost of holocaust proportions.

The Jews in Belarus were not deported due to their use as cannon fodder. The Eisanzgruppe dealt with these terrorists appropriately.