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Post by Nessie on Mar 9, 2023 8:25:20 GMT
Poles in Poland were sending information back to the Polish Government in Exile during the war and for a brief period after the war there was an attempt to re-establish that government, before a Soviet controlled government took power. Poles held enquiries into the Holocaust, separate from the Soviets and continued after the Soviets had established control. The Govt in exile were not a real government. The real government of Poland during the war was the Reich, then the Soviets for a few years who allowed a puppet state to be established. The Polish Government post war had no connection to the pre war Government which went into exile. A puppet government of the Soviets cannot be independent by definition. Well, the Reich did not fake mass gassings and the Soviets had no control over Poland in 1942-3, there was no Soviet puppet government in Poland then, so those earliest reports were all down to the Poles and their existing intelligence network and government in exile. After the war, what was left of the Reich government, the Poles and the Soviets all agreed, mass gassings had happened. The evidence was for mass gassings and unlike deniers, pretty much every one follows the evidence. |
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Post by nazgul on Mar 9, 2023 12:09:32 GMT
so those earliest reports were all down to the Poles and their existing intelligence network and government in exile. After the war, what was left of the Reich government, the Poles and the Soviets all agreed, mass gassings had happened. The evidence was for mass gassings and unlike deniers, pretty much every one follows the evidence. The Soviets and their vassal Poles came to this conclusion. As mentioned the Poles and the Soviets are one nation, one mind set. You cannot treat this conspiracy as anything other than it is; propaganda. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 9, 2023 14:41:42 GMT
so those earliest reports were all down to the Poles and their existing intelligence network and government in exile. After the war, what was left of the Reich government, the Poles and the Soviets all agreed, mass gassings had happened. The evidence was for mass gassings and unlike deniers, pretty much every one follows the evidence. The Soviets and their vassal Poles came to this conclusion. I have just proved, with simple chronology, that the Poles, prior to and independently of the Soviets, started to evidence mass gassings. Mass gassings are evidenced to have happened. No alternative is evidenced, certainly not the mass transports and accommodation of millions of Jews supposedly not gassed. |
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Post by nazgul on Mar 9, 2023 22:11:11 GMT
No alternative is evidenced, certainly not the mass transports and accommodation of millions of Jews supposedly not gassed. The stopping of transports at precise locations of labour camps for Jews and the huge number of labour camps is indicative of what happened and where they went. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 10, 2023 8:14:41 GMT
No alternative is evidenced, certainly not the mass transports and accommodation of millions of Jews supposedly not gassed. The stopping of transports at precise locations of labour camps for Jews and the huge number of labour camps is indicative of what happened and where they went. There is evidence, which you posted, with the description by a Nazi guard, that most of those stops did not involve Jews getting off the trains. The stops were to change guards and repair the carriages as the Jews tried to break out and escape. The one stop were some were sent to another camp, also involved people being returned to the train, which then went to TII and discharged all its passengers.
Your inability to accurately evidence, is one reason why you have fallen for the denier hoax.
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Post by nazgul on Mar 10, 2023 18:58:52 GMT
The stopping of transports at precise locations of labour camps for Jews and the huge number of labour camps is indicative of what happened and where they went. There is evidence, which you posted, with the description by a Nazi guard, that most of those stops did not involve Jews getting off the trains. The stops were to change guards and repair the carriages as the Jews tried to break out and escape. The one stop were some were sent to another camp, also involved people being returned to the train, which then went to TII and discharged all its passengers.
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This one went to the Belzec camps.  The report never mentioned about discharge all of its passengers. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 11, 2023 8:07:03 GMT
There is evidence, which you posted, with the description by a Nazi guard, that most of those stops did not involve Jews getting off the trains. The stops were to change guards and repair the carriages as the Jews tried to break out and escape. The one stop were some were sent to another camp, also involved people being returned to the train, which then went to TII and discharged all its passengers.
Your inability to accurately evidence, is one reason why you have fallen for the denier hoax.
This one went to the Belzec camps. The report never mentioned about discharge all of its passengers. Your hypothesis of transports from major cities with ghettos, such as Warsaw, dropping off passengers on the way, has no supporting evidence. If the Warsaw ghetto was cleared to camps around Warsaw, in 1942-3, there would be evidence of hundreds of thousands of Jews still living in Poland, in that area by the end of 1943. There is no such evidence.
Just like all denier suggestions as to what happened, there is no supporting evidence.
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Post by nazgul on Mar 11, 2023 10:51:30 GMT
Your hypothesis of transports from major cities with ghettos, such as Warsaw, dropping off passengers on the way, has no supporting evidence. If the Warsaw ghetto was cleared to camps around Warsaw, in 1942-3, there would be evidence of hundreds of thousands of Jews still living in Poland, in that area by the end of 1943. There is no such evidence. Just like all denier suggestions as to what happened, there is no supporting evidence. The amount of circumstantial evidence is massive. You are required to summarize your case not delve into the thousands of labour camps for jews and the transports the obviously took them there. |
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The report never mentioned about discharge all of its passengers.