Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Dec 20, 2022 20:08:10 GMT
Die Fahrplananordnung is a time table arrangement used on the rail network.
These have been produced as evidence of mass arrival at various camps, mainly Treblinka, due to Treblinka being the final destination.
Here is one such document. Fahrplananordnung 565, from Lukow to Treblinka via Siedlce.
Here is another from Sediszow to Treblinka; Fahrplananordnung Nr 587.
This is the return transport from Sedziszow to Treblinka (๐). The Radom district had 3 camps, those camps being at Sedziszow; this is the starting point of Fahrplananordnung Nr 587. Sedziszow had a Labour camp for Jews (Zwangarbeitslager), the starting location closed in late 42 at about the same time as the Fahrplananordnung Nr 587 document dated 23 September 1942 and when Treblinka was apparently in full swing gassing every Jew.
This journey took 19 hours and 6 minutes. On the way there were stops. Lets us examine these and the duration.
It has been argued by some that the trains stopped to allow other trains to pass through, but there are railway sidings on these routes as at Barowiec. Any train traveller knows that these stops are a matter of a few minutes. It could also be argued that the train needed fuel and water. However, coal-and-water stations can load a tender with 24 tons of coal and 15,000 gallons of water in as little as four minutes.
Deutschland-ein-denkmal.de have compiled a list of the various camps during the war, including Zwangarbeitslager. Here are locations of interest related to Fahrplananordnung Nr 587. This transport document is dated 23 September 1942, 50 freight cars, 2 passenger cars.
These are the Zwanbgarbeitslager fรผr Juden on that route.
In 1942 it is reported several transports with prisoners arrived at the camp in Skarzysko, including about 2,000 Jews from Kielce and about 500 from Checiny, in March and November from Plaszรณw and then about 1,900 from Majdanek, in early March 1944 about 1,600 from the Lodz ghetto. Also in March, a transport from Plaszรณw with around 2,000 prisoners arrived at the camp.
Treblinka was the end point of many transports, the trains coming from two directions. Interestingly the other direction (via Malkinia) transport documents also contain many stops at Labour camps for about an hour. While it is possible that transports did arrive at Treblinka without significant stops these are not recorded. All Fahrplananordnung presented as evidence of death transports show significant stopping periods at Labour camps for Jews. These documents appear to show transports from labour camp to labour camp with the Treblinka destination being the men and women camps including the Judenlagers. Judenlagers were isolation camps to prevent Jew mingling with others.
The inmates who arrived at Treblinka would have no idea of who got in and out of the cars, as these were sealed; to claim they did not see anyone get out is true but then again they saw nothing except their own space and the people within. While not lying they were not in a position to know anything substantial. The freight cars destined for Treblinka are likely to have been closest to the engine, the last wagons to be shunted off.
These have been produced as evidence of mass arrival at various camps, mainly Treblinka, due to Treblinka being the final destination.
Here is one such document. Fahrplananordnung 565, from Lukow to Treblinka via Siedlce.
Here is another from Sediszow to Treblinka; Fahrplananordnung Nr 587.
This is the return transport from Sedziszow to Treblinka (๐). The Radom district had 3 camps, those camps being at Sedziszow; this is the starting point of Fahrplananordnung Nr 587. Sedziszow had a Labour camp for Jews (Zwangarbeitslager), the starting location closed in late 42 at about the same time as the Fahrplananordnung Nr 587 document dated 23 September 1942 and when Treblinka was apparently in full swing gassing every Jew.
This journey took 19 hours and 6 minutes. On the way there were stops. Lets us examine these and the duration.
- Sedziszow - Kielce- 2h 38m- stopped 59 minutes
- Kielce - Skarzyksko-1h 46m- stopped 62 minutes
- Skarzyksko - Radom- 1h 20m- stopped 25 minutes
- Radom - Deblin - 2h 02m- stopped 40 minutes
- Deblin - Lukow- 2h 07m- stopped 51 minutes
- Lukow - Siedlce- 50m- stopped 96 minutes
- Siedlce - ๐
It has been argued by some that the trains stopped to allow other trains to pass through, but there are railway sidings on these routes as at Barowiec. Any train traveller knows that these stops are a matter of a few minutes. It could also be argued that the train needed fuel and water. However, coal-and-water stations can load a tender with 24 tons of coal and 15,000 gallons of water in as little as four minutes.
Deutschland-ein-denkmal.de have compiled a list of the various camps during the war, including Zwangarbeitslager. Here are locations of interest related to Fahrplananordnung Nr 587. This transport document is dated 23 September 1942, 50 freight cars, 2 passenger cars.
These are the Zwanbgarbeitslager fรผr Juden on that route.
- Sedziszow... 1 Zwangarbeitslager
- Kielce...8 Zwangarbeitslager
- Skarzysko...1 Zwangarbeitslager 8000 inmates
- Radom...3 Zwangarbeitslager
- Deblin...6 Zwangarbeitslager
- Lukow...
- Siedlce...6 Zwangarbeitslager
- Treblinka...3 Zwangarbeitslager (men and women + Judenlager)
In 1942 it is reported several transports with prisoners arrived at the camp in Skarzysko, including about 2,000 Jews from Kielce and about 500 from Checiny, in March and November from Plaszรณw and then about 1,900 from Majdanek, in early March 1944 about 1,600 from the Lodz ghetto. Also in March, a transport from Plaszรณw with around 2,000 prisoners arrived at the camp.
Treblinka was the end point of many transports, the trains coming from two directions. Interestingly the other direction (via Malkinia) transport documents also contain many stops at Labour camps for about an hour. While it is possible that transports did arrive at Treblinka without significant stops these are not recorded. All Fahrplananordnung presented as evidence of death transports show significant stopping periods at Labour camps for Jews. These documents appear to show transports from labour camp to labour camp with the Treblinka destination being the men and women camps including the Judenlagers. Judenlagers were isolation camps to prevent Jew mingling with others.
The inmates who arrived at Treblinka would have no idea of who got in and out of the cars, as these were sealed; to claim they did not see anyone get out is true but then again they saw nothing except their own space and the people within. While not lying they were not in a position to know anything substantial. The freight cars destined for Treblinka are likely to have been closest to the engine, the last wagons to be shunted off.
