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Post by jeff8675309 on Oct 13, 2022 0:53:34 GMT
Not sure if this belongs in this topic but it does deal with a gas van. I don’t recall Montague mentioning this in his book on Chelmno but this dealt specifically with Auschwitz. Montague also didn’t touch on gas vans operating on the Eastern Front. In any case: holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/10/how-convergence-of-evidence-works-gas.htmlWe have an instance where two separate written sources compliment each other. It is highly unlikely that either would know about each other so the sources themselves are not questionable. Then there is testimony backing it up. It’s unusual in a camp where multiple gas chambers were in use to bring in a gas van. But it is possible that it was used for smaller executions where the larger chambers were not needed but too many just to shoot. In any case it’s an interesting bit of information. |
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Post by 𝝥𝝰𝘇𝗴𝝻𝝸 on Oct 13, 2022 2:57:24 GMT
Not sure if this belongs in this topic but it does deal with a gas van. Any bit of information is worthwhile so that readers can use this for their own research. To me I find the prospect of a gas van ridiculous, a waste of fuel to snuff someone when a good stab to the heart with a knife (or fork) would do exactly the same job. The Russians were content to pop people with .22 bullets when it suited them as at Vinnystsia in the Ukraine. What would be grand would be a gas train (Vergasungszug) where the carriages full of the chosen were put into train wagon disinfestation chamber. Even more grand would be a ship (Vergasungsschiff) used as a gas chamber. Imagine the exhaust killing all those people. Instead they put them on the SS Cap Arcona and let the British blow er up. |
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Post by jeff8675309 on Oct 13, 2022 19:39:39 GMT
Not sure if this belongs in this topic but it does deal with a gas van. Any bit of information is worthwhile so that readers can use this for their own research. To me I find the prospect of a gas van ridiculous, a waste of fuel to snuff someone when a good stab to the heart with a knife (or fork) would do exactly the same job. The Russians were content to pop people with .22 bullets when it suited them as at .Vinnystsia in the Ukraine What would be grand would be a gas train (Vergasungszug) where the carriages full of the chosen were put into train wagon disinfestation chamber. I’m sorry the Germans didn’t have you or ol’ Fritz around to ask for better ways to murder people. I’m afraid all you have are your fantasies to help you make it through the day. “Vinnystsia in the Ukraine” If you are referring to that rather infamous picture then the Germans did that. |
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Post by 𝝥𝝰𝘇𝗴𝝻𝝸 on Oct 13, 2022 21:09:36 GMT
“Vinnystsia in the Ukraine” If you are referring to that rather infamous picture then the Germans did that. Using the tubes with trainloads would have worked; the fake gaskammer at Auschwitz etc would not work. That the point. You and 🦕 have much in common in that you spout off with no research. |
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Post by jeff8675309 on Oct 14, 2022 0:00:29 GMT
“Vinnystsia in the Ukraine” If you are referring to that rather infamous picture then the Germans did that. Using the tubes with trainloads would have worked; the fake gaskammer at Auschwitz etc would not work. That the point. No, the point is all the fantasizing about various ways to murder Jews is irrelevant. It’s also hysterically funny that you and ol’ Fritz are essentially saying that a sealed tunnel can kill people but a sealed room cannot. Which do you think is easier? Sealing an entire tunnel to murder people over and over when you desperately need those trains or just sending people to a set location? This is the infamous picture I am referring to: rarehistoricalphotos.com/last-jew-vinnitsa-1941/The last I checked the NKVD didn’t make a habit of photographing their purges. But the Germans liked their trophies. |
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Post by jeff8675309 on Oct 14, 2022 0:01:50 GMT
You should really do some research, Nazgûl.  |
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Post by jeff8675309 on Oct 14, 2022 0:39:31 GMT
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Post by 𝝥𝝰𝘇𝗴𝝻𝝸 on Oct 14, 2022 1:45:50 GMT
It’s also hysterically funny that you and ol’ Fritz are essentially saying that a sealed tunnel can kill people but a sealed room cannot Those tunnels worked for fumigation using Zyklon B; the tunnels were not only sealed but had the Kreislauf circulation system that opened the cans, a fan system getting the ambient temperature for the product to work. The fumigation chamber at Auschwitz 1 had this highly efficient system. This was a stationary gaskammer as was the train tube. The stationary gas chambers and the disinfestation process were technically so advanced that a complete cycle of loading, gassing, ventilation and emptying could be carried out in a circulation chamber in 75 – 90 minutes, although a hydrocyanic acid gas intensity of 10 g hrs/m³ is required. The alleged gaskammer at Birkenau would not work using this product. Perhaps they used something else. |
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