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Post by Nessie on Oct 12, 2022 7:27:41 GMT
Thank you for your acknowledgement of error. Lets move on.  No, I suggest letโs not move on. ๐ This person was making bold but false statements and deriding others based on wilful ignorance. She/he was invited/challenged to research something and she/he refused but insisted she/he knew the answer anyway. I am a he, this is the last time you will be reminded of that and you will address me as a he only. You are lying that I refused to do research, as I showed you links to some of what I had read. There is evidence of the American's stealing from the Japanese during WWII, the Canadians stealing from the Ukranians during WWI, but the link about the British is behind a paywall for me and the quote used is ambiguous. It is reasonable to ask questions about it. That was not my argument, strawman. My argument is that it is circumstantial corroborating evidence for mass murder of the Jews, something that there is no evidence of by the British of those they interred. Hence, I argued, with evidence, how they kept their personal possessions at the camps. No, it is because you do not know how to research, so you need to get me to do it for you. As shown with Nazgul, present evidence and I will assess it and if I need to correct my position, I will do so. Evidence has been presented that the Nazis, Americans and Canadians stole property, as in what the internees left behind when they went to the camps. No evidence has been presented that the Americans and Canadians stole the possessions of the Japanese and Ukrainians when they arrived at the camps, including their underwear and any gold teeth. It is not clear what the British seized regarding property and why. They also did not steal the internee's possessions at the camps. Only the Nazis did that. |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 12, 2022 7:32:24 GMT
Suggestions the British were stealing the property of those who they interred, have failed due to a lack of evidence. The difference is that the British were not confiscating underwear and gold from teeth, which the Nazis were. Those Nazi sympathizers were interned for the most part. MI5 wanted to intern Baronet Moseley; it was only his title that saved him. Extraction of minerals from the dead is done today. If this process is moral now, it was moral back then. BT is correct, you do not research before mouthing off. Yet you claim to be trained as a historian. Why do you not copy and paste more from the NYT article that you suggest has the answers to what the British took and why?
You missed you this about the property taken at the Toronto crematorium;
"Medical implants are too damaged at this point to be reused as designed, but with the permission of a dead loved one's family, those precious metals can be recycled...Nearly all of the crematoriums donate the money they get back from OrthoMetals to charity."
The Nazis did not get relative's permission and they stole what they took for themselves.
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Post by nazgul on Oct 12, 2022 7:32:37 GMT
Emotional clap trap. Of course the gold was recycled like it is today from mobile phones. The Frank document corroborates witness claims of the dead having their gold teeth removed. It is done now, modern times, why not then? |
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Post by nazgul on Oct 12, 2022 7:46:27 GMT
he Nazis did not get relative's permission and they stole what they took for themselves. What an infantile statement. How do you not know that the money from this was not used to support the relatives in konzentrationslager; it bought them food, much squandered by the kapos. |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 12, 2022 13:02:18 GMT
The Frank document corroborates witness claims of the dead having their gold teeth removed. It is done now, modern times, why not then? Show me another instance where a government has been accused of mass murder and the evidence includes a list of property that includes underwear and gold teeth taken from those allegedly murdered. |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 12, 2022 13:02:50 GMT
he Nazis did not get relative's permission and they stole what they took for themselves. What an infantile statement. How do you not know that the money from this was not used to support the relatives in konzentrationslager; it bought them food, much squandered by the kapos. A thing called evidence, is how I know what happened. |
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Post by nazgul on Oct 12, 2022 18:45:44 GMT
Show me another instance where a government has been accused of mass murder and the evidence includes a list of property that includes underwear and gold teeth taken from those allegedly murdered. It is only you who are concerned with dirty Jew underwear, skid marks intact. Once more you reconfirm your identity. |
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Post by been_there on Oct 12, 2022 19:04:45 GMT
No, I suggest letโs not move on. ๐ This person was making bold but false statements and deriding others based on wilful ignorance. She/he was invited/challenged to research something and she/he refused but insisted she/he knew the answer anyway. I am a he, this is the last time you will be reminded of that and you will address me as a he only. You have a female user name and regularly lie (but hypocritically abuse others calling them โfilthy liarsโ). So no-one knows whether this gender-claim is another lie from you or not. Now you threaten censorship just for referring to you with the neutral โshe/heโ!!!?? And this from a โmoderatorโ who routinely calls people โdirty liarsโ based on your misunderstandings of what is explained to you?? Classic holyhoax-believer behaviour. You have no reasonable reply to revisionist research so you lie, obfuscate, derail, abuse and censor. It is cultish behaviour. Holy moly! ๐ฎ How many times does this have to be explained to you? You DID NOT research what you were challenged to research. Plus on that aspect that you did research, you ONLY looked for info that supported your wilfully ignorant, cultish holyhoax mass -gassing belief. You finally understood this. But now have resorted back to lying about it? ๐ฎ๐ This again shows you are stuck in a cultish belief-system. Be honest with yourself and come out of it now. THAT is precisely what you were encouraged to investigate and provide the evidence of BUT you never did! |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 13, 2022 7:25:28 GMT
Show me another instance where a government has been accused of mass murder and the evidence includes a list of property that includes underwear and gold teeth taken from those allegedly murdered. It is only you who are concerned with dirty Jew underwear, skid marks intact. Once more you reconfirm your identity. Only the Nazis are evidenced to have stolen everything from those who arrived at camps. That logically fits with killing those people. |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 13, 2022 7:37:39 GMT
I am a he, this is the last time you will be reminded of that and you will address me as a he only. You have a female user name and regularly lie (but hypocritically abuse others calling them โfilthy liarsโ). So no-one knows whether this gender-claim is another lie from you or not. Now you threaten censorship just for referring to you with the neutral โshe/heโ!!!?? You are the only person I converse with on this, or any other forum, who is constantly abusive and seeks to provoke. That speaks volumes about you. That is not true. You are presently dodging that only the Nazis are evidenced to have stolen everything from some of the people arriving at camps and instead of engaging in a discussion about the evidence, you abuse and provoke. When I searched online for information about internees at the British camps, I did not find anything to show they had their possessions stolen. Instead, I found the opposite. So far, the investigation has found evidence that the Americans, Canadians and likely the British, did seize property from internees, but there is no evidence that they also seized the possessions of those sent to internment camps, on arrival at the camps. You have dodged providing any evidence to further the discussion and instead you use your posts to further disrupt the thread with your nasty attitude. It is quite clear that you have realised your mistake and you do not want to discuss the Nazis thefts, because you have realised how that fits in with mass killings. |
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Post by been_there on Oct 13, 2022 10:03:05 GMT
You have a female user name and regularly lie (but hypocritically abuse others calling them โfilthy liarsโ). So no-one knows whether this gender-claim is another lie from you or not. Now you threaten censorship just for referring to you with the neutral โshe/heโ!!!?? You are the only person I converse with on this, or any other forum, who is constantly abusive and seeks to provoke. That speaks volumes about you. That is not true. You are presently dodging that only the Nazis are evidenced to have stolen everything from some of the people arriving at camps and instead of engaging in a discussion about the evidence, you abuse and provoke. When I searched online for information about internees at the British camps, I did not find anything to show they had their possessions stolen. Instead, I found the opposite. So far, the investigation has found evidence that the Americans, Canadians and likely the British, did seize property from internees, but there is no evidence that they also seized the possessions of those sent to internment camps, on arrival at the camps... It is an extremely simple question. Stop being stupid, dishonest and in denial by pretending i.) you have already answered it, or by ii.) dodging it. Do you still understand the question? Or have you resorted back to self-delusionally insisting you have already answered it? I will rephrase it to help you understand: when all the people with Japanese, Italian, German, Austrian ethnic origins were rounded up, transported to Allied concentration camps and incarcerated what was the procedure for handling their personal possessions that they had with them? |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 13, 2022 14:06:41 GMT
You are the only person I converse with on this, or any other forum, who is constantly abusive and seeks to provoke. That speaks volumes about you. That is not true. You are presently dodging that only the Nazis are evidenced to have stolen everything from some of the people arriving at camps and instead of engaging in a discussion about the evidence, you abuse and provoke. When I searched online for information about internees at the British camps, I did not find anything to show they had their possessions stolen. Instead, I found the opposite. So far, the investigation has found evidence that the Americans, Canadians and likely the British, did seize property from internees, but there is no evidence that they also seized the possessions of those sent to internment camps, on arrival at the camps... It is an extremely simple question. Stop being stupid, dishonest and in denial by pretending i.) you have already answered it, or by ii.) dodging it. Do you still understand the question? Or have you resorted back to self-delusionally insisting you have already answered it? I will rephrase it to help you understand: when all the people with Japanese, Italian, German, Austrian ethnic origins were rounded up, transported to Allied concentration camps and incarcerated what was the procedure for handling their personal possessions that they had with them?My answer remains the same as the last time I answered you, they were allowed to keep their personal possessions that they brought to the internment camps. The evidence for that is photos of interred people, who are in their own clothes and have bags of personal items with them. There is no evidence that property was stolen from them. Now, what was the procedure for handling and what happened to the personal possessions of the Jews when they arrived at the AR camps? |
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Post by been_there on Oct 13, 2022 14:09:07 GMT
... there is no evidence that they also seized the possessions of those sent to internment camps, on arrival at the camps... It is an extremely simple question. Stop being stupid, dishonest and in denial by pretending i.) you have already answered it, or by ii.) dodging it. Do you still understand the question? Or have you resorted back to self-delusionally insisting you have already answered it? I will rephrase it to help you understand: when all the people with Japanese, Italian, German, Austrian ethnic origins were rounded up, transported to Allied concentration camps and incarcerated what was the procedure for handling their personal possessions that they had with them?Just because you havenโt looked does not mean there is no evidence. Obviously. So... if you donโt want to look because you are scared of what you might find, just admit that. |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 13, 2022 14:26:45 GMT
What DID happen to the personal possessions of the people that your cultish holyhoax industry doesnโt want anyone to know about? It is an extremely simple question. Stop being stupid, dishonest and in denial by pretending i.) you have already answered it, or by ii.) dodging it. Do you still understand the question? Or have you resorted back to self-delusionally insisting you have already answered it? I will rephrase it to help you understand: when all the people with Japanese, Italian, German, Austrian ethnic origins were rounded up, transported to Allied concentration camps and incarcerated what was the procedure for handling their personal possessions that they had with them? Just because you havenโt looked does not mean there is no evidence. Obviously. So... if you donโt want to look because you are scared of what you might find, just admit that. I have looked and completed numerous searches online that include the words possessions, property, internment, procedure etc. What I have found are numerous photos of people who have gathered to go to internment camps, who are wearing their own clothes and have suitcases with them, and numerous pictures of people inside the camps, still in their own clothes and with personal possessions.
I have found no evidence of the theft of that property by the authorities. No witnesses statements, no inventories, nothing. I cannot find anything other that basic descriptions of people arriving at internment camps and being sent to their accommodation, be that barracks or, as happened on the IOM, houses seized from local people.
It is obvious that answer does not suit your desired beliefs, which is why you are dodging my answer and it is also clear that you do not want to look in any detail about the procedure for Jews arriving at AR camps, because you know what you will find and it again does not suit your desired beliefs.
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Post by been_there on Oct 13, 2022 14:55:33 GMT
Just because you havenโt looked does not mean there is no evidence. Obviously. So... if you donโt want to look because you are scared of what you might find, just admit that. I have looked and completed numerous searches online... I have found no evidence of the theft of that property... Holy moly! ๐ฎ Your disconnect from reality never ceases to amaze. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ You werenโt asked to look for and find โtheft of propertyโ. Thus proving your cultish belief is still preventing you from comprehending an extremely simple challenge. Learn from this! Your cultish belief-system is blinding you to objective reality. No wonder you canโt understand history properly. Like all holyhoax cult-believers you are starting from an unquestionable a priori position and conclusion the whole time. I am trying to help you to see that. Just honestly consider then answer the following questions: Q1. Are you really so stupidly in denial that you believe there was no procedure for checking and handling prisoners possessions upon arrest, or upon arrival at embarkation/disembarkation points, or upon arrival at camps? Q2. If you answered no to Q1, now answer whether you really believe that because you havenโt found the answer to the specific question about that procedure, that means the answer can not be ascertained? |
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