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Post by 𝝥𝝰𝘇𝗴𝝻𝝸 on Oct 7, 2022 18:29:02 GMT
"Evidence" from the great Nuremberg show trial. Also known as the "high grade lynching". Nessie will be trotting out the shrunken heads, the human lampshades and the Jewfat soap next. No.
Property stolen by the Nazis is still being identified and recovered nowadays, such was the scale of the theft.
Think of it as a donation to pay for their keep and atone for their sins. |
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Post by Turnagain on Oct 7, 2022 20:47:46 GMT
So why not the shrunken heads and the lampshades? After all, the witnesses could have just been speaking "emotively".
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Post by been_there on Oct 8, 2022 8:02:50 GMT
Naturally all people crossing borders and customs can not take with them whatever they like. Anything illegal or with a tariff being smuggled across a border can be confiscated. The same holds true today, both at customs AND at admittance to prison. Obviously this applies more so during a war when all wealth and resources could make the difference between victory or defeat. I wonder if there is someone here who can instead of looking for and interpreting (misinterpreting?) ANY ‘evidence’ to fit a cherished, pre-concieved, cultish belief-system can do research and find out what happened to the possessions of all or any of the people arrested, transported and then incarcerated in British and American concentration camps. 🤔 You offer no evidence to back up your claims about only some property being taken, that the Jews involved were potential 5th columnists, that the property was taken from them at border crossings/customs and that there was no persecution of the Jews prior to WWII. were challenged to provide some ‘evidence’. YOU were invited to do some research about the treatment of the possessions of those prisoners of Britain and America who were also incarcerated for having an ethnic origin that made them suspects as potential fifth-columnist. The arrest of those people, their forced transportation away from their homes and their incarceration in camps is a historical truth that believers in the holyhoax mass-gassing mythology do not like to be reminded of. That being because the holyhoax mass-gassing mythology relies on ignorance. It requires deceit by omission to make itself ‘believable’. You completely ignored the challenge. Instead you demand ‘evidence’ of well-attested facts that has been supplied to you many times before and dodged/ignored. This demonstrates your insincerity and dishonesty. It again shows you are not interested in actual, factual historical truth but in promoting a bogus narrative that is a racist calumny. You ignorantly and dishonestly asked for ‘evidence’ of people with Jewish ancestry being regarded as possible enemy aliens. But you asked with this misrepresentation: “evidence...the Jews involved were potential 5th columnists”. This shows your inability to understand what is being explained to you. You are like a blind man asking for evidence of the light of the sun: i.e. your years of blind-belief causes your incapacity to perceive that ‘evidence’. CLARIFICATION: It was not —and is not now — claimed “the Jews” WERE “potential 5th columnists”. It was explained to you that ALL combatant nations imprisoned those people who were deemed to be potentially that, because of their ethnic origins and therefore POSSIBLE divided loyalties. It is explained to you again, but have you the wit to comprehend it? Here is an admission from a leader of the world’s Jews at that time. Will you accept this as ‘evidence’?: |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 8:24:54 GMT
You offer no evidence to back up your claims about only some property being taken, that the Jews involved were potential 5th columnists, that the property was taken from them at border crossings/customs and that there was no persecution of the Jews prior to WWII. were challenged to provide some ‘evidence’. YOU were invited to do some research about the treatment of the possessions of those prisoners of Britain and America who were also incarcerated for having an ethnic origin that made them suspects as potential fifth-columnist. The arrest of those people, their forced transportation away from their homes and their incarceration in camps is a historical truth that believers in the holyhoax mass-gassing mythology do not like to be reminded of. That being because the holyhoax mass-gassing mythology relies on ignorance. It requires deceit by omission to make itself ‘believable’. The detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies is not denied and it is not on topic. You are using that topic to distract attention from the topic, which is Nazi theft. Because it is off topic and forum rules are to stay on topic. You are trying to justify the Nazi theft of Jewish property. A lot of planning went into the theft; www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1938-nazi-law-forced-jews-register-their-wealthmaking-it-easier-steal-180968894/"A 1938 Nazi Law Forced Jews to Register Their Wealth—Making It Easier to Steal" Any property or item worth more than 5,000 RM had to be declared and registered. Within months, 700,000 German Jews had registered 7 billion RM worth of property. The Nazi theft of that property continued throughout WWII. |
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Post by been_there on Oct 8, 2022 8:42:31 GMT
YOU were challenged to provide some ‘evidence’. YOU were invited to do some research about the treatment of the possessions of those prisoners of Britain and America who were also incarcerated for having an ethnic origin that made them suspects as potential fifth-columnist. The arrest of those people, their forced transportation away from their homes and their incarceration in camps is a historical truth that believers in the holyhoax mass-gassing mythology do not like to be reminded of. That being because the holyhoax mass-gassing mythology relies on ignorance. It requires deceit by omission to make itself ‘believable’. The detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies is not denied and it is not on topic. You are using that topic to distract attention from the topic, which is Nazi theft. Because it is off topic and forum rules are to stay on topic. You are trying to justify the Nazi theft of Jewish property... You idiot! The title of this topic thread is “theft of property”. You were challenged to research what happened to the property of similar incarcerations of people because of their ethnic origins. It is of course right on topic, in order to contextualise your racist, anti-German, slanderous, abusive accusations against them. That you can not understand the relevance is yet further proof of your unfortunate low intelligence. You weren’t asked to acknowledge or deny “the detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies”. 🤦♂️🙄 You were asked to research what happened to their property when they were admitted to camps. And you were asked to consider what happens to personal property of ALL prisoners when they are admitted to prison, to help you contextualise your cultish holyhoax belief system. [ Sheesh! 🤪🤪🤪] |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 9:13:08 GMT
... You weren’t asked to acknowledge or deny “the detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies”. 🤦♂️🙄 You were asked to research what happened to their property when they were admitted to camps. And you were asked to consider what happens to personal property of ALL prisoners when they are admitted to prison, to help you contextualise your cultish holyhoax belief system. [ Sheesh! 🤪🤪🤪] Those detained by the British on the IOM were mostly released before the end of the war and returned to their homes and businesses, which had not been looted by the British Government. blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/collar-lot-britains-policy-internment-second-world-war/"Upon the declaration of war on 3 September 1939, some 70,000 UK resident Germans and Austrians became classed as enemy aliens..... By March 1941, 12,500 internees had been released, rising to over 17,500 in August and by 1942 fewer than 5,000 remained interned, mainly on the Isle of Man." That is nothing like what happened to the Jews under the Nazis. The Nazis organised a massive plunder of Jewish property and by 1945, millions of Jews had been murdered. This topic is about theft of property and since you have provided no evidence that the British and Americans stole the property of those they interred, most of whom were released before the war had ended, but there is a lot of evidence the Nazis were stealing property, then this topic is about Nazi theft. www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2002/summer/nazi-looted-art-1"Allied attempts to find the owners of more than two million looted art pieces and bring German art dealers and Nazi collaborators to justice?" |
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Post by been_there on Oct 8, 2022 9:53:08 GMT
...You weren’t asked to acknowledge or deny “the detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies”. 🤦♂️🙄 You were asked to research what happened to their property when they were admitted to camps. And you were asked to consider what happens to personal property of ALL prisoners when they are admitted to prison, to help you contextualise your cultish holyhoax belief system. [ Sheesh! 🤪🤪🤪] Those detained by the British on the IOM were mostly... [blah, blah, irrelevant-avoidance, blah, blah, blah].What a moron. You still haven’t answered or understood the challenge put to you or why it is relevant. You are beyond reasoning with. |
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 10:02:35 GMT
Those detained by the British on the IOM were mostly... [blah, blah, irrelevant-avoidance, blah, blah, blah].What a moron. You still haven’t answered or understood the challenge put to you or why it is relevant. You are beyond reasoning with. You asked "what happened to their property when they were admitted to camps" in relation to "the detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies”.
I have shown you evidence that in the UK, the vast majority of those detained after war started in 1939, had been released by the end of 1942 and they returned home. That was because the British Government had not stolen all of their property. The people interred by the British did not have their underwear and the gold from the teeth stolen from them.
That answer does not suit you, so you removed it from your reply and instead, you resorted to name calling.
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 10:06:54 GMT
This thread is about theft of property and so far, no evidence has been presented that the British, or American governments stole the property of those they interred. There is plenty of evidence that the Nazis stole the property of those they imprisoned, for example, Herman Goering. He stole artworks at a phenomenal rate; www.thecollector.com/hermann-goering-art-collector-or-nazi-looter/"Goering’s handwritten catalog listing almost 1,400 works was stored in his country home near Berlin. A conservative estimate pegs Hermann Goering to be acquiring at least 3 paintings a week. In 1945, the New York Times estimated the worth of these works to be two hundred million dollars, a whopping 2.9 billion dollars in today’s money!" |
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Post by been_there on Oct 8, 2022 10:43:18 GMT
What a moron. You still haven’t answered or understood the challenge put to you or why it is relevant. You are beyond reasoning with. You asked "what happened to their property when they were admitted to camps" in relation to "the detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies”.
I have shown you.. [irrelevant, uncomprehending blah, blah, blah removed] Yeah, you were asked to research and reference what happened to their property WHEN THEY WERE ADMITTED TO THE CAMPS!! Not what happened to their property afterwards. It was just a small point. And yet you can not comprehend it — nor its relevance — let alone answer it. 🙄 Which is ‘evidence’ that what you call ‘name calling’ is actually an accurate description. |
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Post by been_there on Oct 8, 2022 10:49:15 GMT
Preserving works of art and storing them for safety during the most destructive war in known history where entire cities were reduced to rubble and whole communities were being displaced — and when no-one knew the outcome of that global war — would have been rightly seen as wise stewardship had the result been the reverse.
It is only the Jewish-led demonisation of the NSDAP that permits history to be so distorted, and such obvious deception to be accepted as accurate history.
It is only blind, cultish-believers who will not consider the truth of this.
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Post by Turnagain on Oct 8, 2022 11:00:30 GMT
Been-there wrote:
I think that Nessie understands it quite well. He's just engaging in what I call a "weasel dodge". His misunderstanding is a a sham, a fake so that he doesn't have to engage a debate point. Just as his claim that the personal property of a couple of million Jews would constitute the biggest theft in history. It's his stock in trade.
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 11:34:31 GMT
You asked "what happened to their property when they were admitted to camps" in relation to "the detention of Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese by the Allies”.
I have shown you.. [irrelevant, uncomprehending blah, blah, blah removed] Yeah, you were asked to research and reference what happened to their property WHEN THEY WERE ADMITTED TO THE CAMPS!! Not what happened to their property afterwards. It was just a small point. And yet you can not comprehend it — nor its relevance — let alone answer it. 🙄 Which is ‘evidence’ that what you call ‘name calling’ is actually an accurate description.
Since the vast majority of those interred in the UK were released and returned home and there is no evidence that whilst they were in the internment camps that the British government or anyone else stole their property, it stands to reason the internee's property was just left untouched.
I cannot find any evidence a senior British government official stole artworks from the internees, like Goering stole from the Jews.
I cannot find any evidence that the British government stole homes and businesses, like the Nazis stole from the Jews.
When Germans, Italians and Austrians were interred by the British and admitted to camps, their property was left untouched and it was not stolen by the British government.
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 11:40:44 GMT
Preserving works of art and storing them for safety during the most destructive war in known history where entire cities were reduced to rubble and whole communities were being displaced — and when no-one knew the outcome of that global war — would have been rightly seen as wise stewardship had the result been the reverse. It is only the Jewish-led demonisation of the NSDAP that permits history to be so distorted, and such obvious deception to be accepted as accurate history. It is only blind, cultish-believers who will not consider the truth of this. That is a valid argument, if the property in question was only taken from the Jews and moved to places of safety, in 1944, 1945, when Germany was under widespread attack and there was significant destruction.
Much of the theft of Jewish owned art took place earlier in the war, when there was far less risk of it being damaged and it was displayed in the private collections of Nazis such as Goering. The art he stole, was moved to safety much later in the war.
Furthermore, the Nazis went to great lengths to hide the art they stole, so it was not just to keep that art safe. The Nazis made no effort to return any of the art they stole from the Jews. Why was that, I wonder?
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Post by Nessie on Oct 8, 2022 11:46:55 GMT
Been-there wrote: I think that Nessie understands it quite well. He's just engaging in what I call a "weasel dodge". His misunderstanding is a a sham, a fake so that he doesn't have to engage a debate point. Anyone with any sense, would understand that if, say a German had been interred by the British in 1939 and then he was released and returned home in 1942, then his property was still there. I can find no evidence that internees were returning home to find all their property had been stolen by the government. There may have been thefts from the empty houses, by criminals taking advantage of those places being unoccupied. That is not the same as the wholesale, organised theft of every item of Jewish property, from their homes, to their art, to the clothes they wore, by the Nazis. Except, I did not say that, you dishonestly misrepresent what I did say. Will you now be honest and quote my exact words and then apologise for your deceit? |
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