What is the Holocaust?

How fascinating! 🙂
So Dr. Terry thinks my misconception was having ”the idea that the Holocaust meant killing”!!!🤣
Oh boy! 🤦‍♂️

I once wrote a satirical spoof on the holocaust narrative being updated like a computer operating system in order to keep abreast of historical advances and to still be credible to its target audience. 
Anyone interested can read that here.

And I see from the link Agandaur provided that Nick Terry has just made quite a collosal misrepresentation of both: 1. what caused me to reassess my position on this quasi-religous, cult-like belief-system , and 2. my prior understanding before that reassessment.
Deeply fascinating!
It seems to me to show another clear sign that belief in this narrative requires the dishonest tactics of strawman misrepresentation, and ad homimem attack of the actual revisionist arguments that are undermining and refuting that belief. Tactics which in my experience are quite a common reaction from people who are attached to a belief in a cult-like way.

Something I also wrote about here (‘Cultish-belief that relies on censorship and ad hominem’ and here (’Leaving the cult of H’) which Nick Terry presumably read. 

So the following misrepresentation by him I think also fits THIS topic here (link) extremely well.

I am referring to his misrepresentation of a). my own approach as ’denial’ when it isn’t, b.) misrepresenting my first encounter with a holocaust survivor in person, and c.) his own inadvertent acknowledgement that the holocaust narrative as it has been indoctrinated into the masses is both inaccurate and in need of amending.

Here is what this professional indoctrinator wrote:
Ironically, this does rather reinforce the subject of this other topic-thread. Namely, that attitudes and understandings ARE definitely changing. 

And it appears to be changing especially amongst those at the cutting edge of indoctrinating new generations into the finer details of this pseudo-historical narrative. They deep-down know, I think, that the revisionist arguments are credible and backed up by the empirical evidence (or lack of it supporting the traditional H-narrative).
They therefore have to subsume the resulting cognitive dissonance which that causes them, by:
1.) misrepresenting the messengers (as neo-Nazis, anti-semites! deniers, etc.,)
2.) subtly and self-deludingly amending what they believe to avoid an embarrassing, humiliating and identity-destroying climb-down.
 
 So what exactly is ’the holocaust’ now?
According to Dr. Terry, it apparently is no longer the ’belief’ that it describes the attempt to exterminate ALL Jews resulting in the mass-murder of 6 million of them.
As according to what he has written here, the ’holocaust’ narrative as he now presents it, no longer “emphasises extermination”! 😮😮😮
 
And if ”absorbing the idea that the holocaust meant killing”, is now seen by professional holocaust-history experts as a “misconception” what does that now leave us with?
 
Without “killing” — or more specifically the allegation of a systematic mass-murder of miliions in gas chambers — what exactly is ’the holocaust’ now?! 🤔

If Nazi policy had been the removal by emigration or expulsion of the Jews, it would have been considered a cruel and scandalous policy, akin to ethnic cleansing, that would have caused horrific hardship. If that policy had included the use of the Jews as forced labourers during the war, that would have also been considered a horrific crime against a specific group of people. Even without the mass killings, the Nazi policies laid out in the Nuremberg laws and the expulsions and forced labour, would have been considered a c rime against humanity.

Most (all?) revisionists do not deny that there was a policy to remove the Jews and their use as forced labour. The denial is about the mass killings, in particular the gassings.

Many have found no compelling evidence for the use of gas chambers to murder people en masse. The British thought it was a ludicrous idea and initially dismissed the claims as war propaganda. Despite Nessies attempts, the arguments for his position have not moved a mm; what he thinks is compelling proof are really anecdotes corroborated by other people hearing similar propaganda. Others consider the gas chamber discussion irrelevant to the "bigger" picture as the Holocaust is somehow more "holistic" with many factors.

This holistic claim has merit but can be used in any aspect of the issue being discussed; this is why topics often go off thread as another aspect is brought up. The constantly shifting sands also means that the Holocaust is a vague concept with NO working definition; showing that one aspect is unlikely does not mean the others are equally so.

Nessies post just above fits in with genocide as per the UN. Genocide does not equate with mass murder, though mass murder can be included. The deliberate killing of a single individual could be deemed genocide due to lack of definition. I am sure that some inidividuals were murdered by unscrupulous nazis for being jews and not other reason.

Wikipedia is still touting Majdanek as an extermination center. However, the USHMM has been forced to delete Majdanek as a murder facility. That was reported by the Unz Review. See:
www.unz.com/estriker/the-last-days-of-the-holocaust/

The narrative has been subject to revisions as to the methods used to kill and the numbers killed, since the very earliest reports in 1943. It will likely continue to be revised for decades to come.

Early claims about killing methods included steam, vacuum and electricity being used inside the AR camp chambers, which have been revised to the evidenced use of engine exhaust fumes. There remains some disagreement about the fine details, such as what engine was used, but otherwise there is a lot of agreement. The method at A-B has remained unchanged, with Zyklon B dropped into the chambers, being the accepted and unrevised narrative since the first reports.

The death totals have been revised, often downwards from the earliest exaggerated claims, and are still not agreed upon. It is doubtful that there will be a definitive, agreed upon death total.

Oh boy! [sigh🙄🤦‍♂️]

This topic thread concerns the definition of what has been called the holocaust.

I think most people are honest enough and intelligent enough to recognise that the accepted narrative initially was that ALL the major Axis concentration camps were places where Jews were murdered by gas in homicidal gas chambers.

Experts are now forced to admit that that was and is a deliberately FALSE allegation that amazingly many people who are only dimly aware of the holocaust mythology, still are under the spell of to this day. I would say, that in my experience that is the view of the majority of people who even know what ‘the holocaust’ refers to. And according to recent surveys, over 40% of Americans don’t know what it refers to. Of the remainder, only a minority can name a single concentration camp associated with the ‘shoah’ mythology.
But of those who do know dimly what ‘the holocaust’ refers to, they believe that most camps were death camps. 

Not surprising! That is the view that the victorious Allies pushed on the world and upon the vanquished nations by newsreel filmed propaganda. Remember, the narrative people hear FIRST is the narrative they will believe. That is the basic human psychology that this pseudo-history has always been predicated upon. 
Remember that German civilians were forced to visit camps and to view and even help bury the dead that were found there. All done with the LIE that those corpses were of people deliberately murdered en masse as part of a wicked ‘nazi’ policy of Jew-genocide.
It is now admitted by the experts that those camps — Belsen, Dachau, Ohrdruf (a subcamp of Buchenwald), etc.,  were ALL FALSELY presented to the world as examples of German “bestiality” and deliberate, genocidal mass-murder!
Yet people STILL quote Eisenhower after visiting a Labour camp (Ohrdruf in April 1945) falsely depicting it as death camp.
Such official lies like that above are still appearing on websites to this day! They are examples of the changes that REVISIONISTS have forced upon the protectors and promulgators of a false, anti-German, pro-Jewish MASS-DECEPTION.

This topic discussion is not discussing small changes of understanding about minor details. To suggest so, is to attempt to practice a deceit. Only someone being dishonest would suggest such a thing.

The reality now being understood by those who do any honest, intelligent research into it, is that the alleged mass-gassing of millions is a mythology that even people who have made a profession out of perpetuating it, are conceding is “long past its sell-by-date”.
Holycaust high-priest (‘historian’) David Cesarani used those exact words!!!!

Dr. Nick Terry now says it is a misconception to think ‘the holocaust’ as accurate history “emphasised extermination”!!! 😮🤦‍♂️🙄

These are the changes being forced to be admitted by the beleaguered Shoah-priesthood.

The holocaust LIES have been off-limits for discussion.
Debbie Lipstadt and her paymasters have tried to silence and censor debate, analysis and genuine research. But thanks to the internet, such tyrannous thought-control has not been totally successful. 
And that is why even shoah priesthood have had to start significantly changing the narrative, whilst attempting to perpetuate the myth that nothing has really changed.

That is why a Jewish high-priest of the cult-like holocaust religion was compelled to write this: