The Lies of the Witnesses

Nessie wrote:

That makes about as much sense as saying that a hundred thousand people attended a football game at a stadium. The next day the stadium was empty so all of those people were murdered. Where are the graves and the cremains? You have none. Only the unproven claims by Lukaszkiewicz and Colls. Neither offer any undeniable proof for the claims.

I have exactly just as much proof that the building functioned as a shower as you do for it's function as a homicidal gas chanber. IOW, and handful of tiles.

Nessie wrote:

It's no pretense that neither Lukaszkiewicz nor Colls provided any rigorous evidence to support their claims. You can stamp your feet and screech, "Did too, did too" from now til forever but the fact remains that neither Lukaszkiewicy nor Colls presented any incontrovertible evidence to support their claims.

You have multiple liars and the same amount of physical evidence as I.

Nessie's witnesses are known to be liars. Nothing else can be said when such as Rajchman and Czarny claim blood is flammable and the so-called Treblinka historian, Rachel Auerbach, declares that blood was a first class flammable. Those and other egregious lies by his witnesses prove them to be liars. Of that there can be no doubt.

There is no bonafide evidence by either Lukaszkiewicz or Colls of any graves or cremains found at the Treblinka II site. None. There should be at least 2,000 tons of cremains plus the associated wood ash buried at Treblinka II. Nobody has ever recovered any graves, cremains or wood ash at Treblinka II. That is incontrovertible.

The fact is that the holyhoax is a religious experience for Nessie. A religious belief doesn't allow for any rigorous scientific investigations of it's claims. That is fine and dandy for a religion but Nessie has taken it to the secular level, the holyhoax. Anything inimical to the official dogma is automatically rejected and anything claimed for it is automatically accepted. For Nessie it's true, the six million died and that is both the beginning and end of the story. In holyhoax land, that is the only truth.

Nessie wrote:

What Nessie doesn't say is the myriad of lies that he has to cover for with his excuses. His endless litany of "mistakes", "emotive language" and "the witness can't be taken literally". Can any of the witnesses' accounts of the homicidal gassing be taken literally? Apparently not since Nessie refuses to name and quote any such witness.

Anyone who reads those reports from an unprejudiced viewpoint can see that the claims of the investigators are unsupported. There are no samples taken, no laboratory tests performed and no photo sequences of the Lukaszkiewicz investigation. That is acceptable for Nessie. Colls makes no claim to finding the graves. "Probable graves" but no definitive claim of, "Here are the graves". Neither does she publish the GPR profile of the area she claimed to have scanned. Her claim that the tiles she recovered were from the gas chamber is based on her supposition and unproven claim that a gas chamber actually existed. None of which is of any import to Nessie. The holyhoax is first and foremost a fact.

Nessie claims that the Germans gassed the Jews. Nessie must prove that to be a fact. There is no unequivocal evidence that millions of Jews were steamed, suffocated, gassed with a pesticide or with CO in any of the alleged extermination camps found solely in the Soviet zone of occupation. It's not the revisionist's job to prove what happened to the Jews, only that the Jews weren't gassed, (steamed, suffocated, etc.) buried, exhumed, cremated and reburied. That has been done to a fare thee well.

Nessie claims that mass gassing is "evidenced". IOW, his claim of mass gassing remains unproven. As stated above, the holyhoax is Nessie's religion. Whatever conjectures that support his belief system is accepted and whatever evidence is inimical to his belief is rejected. The holyhoax is the beginning and the end of the story.

The Nazi evidence is more literal, which is why you have to claim, with no evidence, they were all coerced during their trials, by Germans, in Germany, into supporting the Jews and lying.

Show me evidence that people normally speak literally and that a truthful witness will not make mistakes.

Many so called mistakes, are just examples of you misrepresenting what witnesses actually said and mixing rumour with eyewitness evidence.



You demand technology that was not necessarily available to the investigators. Did Lukaszkiewicz have access to a lab? Does his original report contain photos? You fail to understand the language used by C S-C is due to her work being non invasive. She finds large pits in the area where the witness said large grave were dug, but she does not dig into them, so she described them as "there is a strong case for arguing that they represent burial areas" and probable graves. Scientists leave room for further investigation. You look for any excuse to cast doubt on their work, because it says what you do not want to hear. You present no evidence of undisturbed ground. You demand faith in your judgement with no evidence.



Turnagin claims the Nazis did not gas Jews. He presents no evidence to back up that claim and show what did happen.

Instead, because I have evidenced my claim, he has to think up excuses to rubbish the evidence I have.



By all normal standards, the evidence provided is sufficient to prove mass gassings. Until deniers produce evidence of what did happen, I will not support their faiths and beliefs.

Its been answered fully. The fact that you refuse to take notes or try and remember details is not our issue. They went to the Russian East as Korherr said; then they, not all, came back.