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Post by fetus on Jul 25, 2022 20:02:48 GMT
Mattogno believes the black spots on aerial photos of krema 2 and 3 is bitumen leaking through, Rudolf thinks the photos have been tampered with, believers claim they are Zyklon-B introduction holes (except Charles Provan who thinks they are no proof of anything), but couldn't the spots simply be some kind of air vent exhaust installed in 1943, something like: www.constrofacilitator.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/roofing-ventilation.jpg ? AFAIK there are documents from 1943 talking about purchase inventory for the kremas/morgues/undressing rooms listing fans and motors for fans (for which the undressing room had stronger motors than the "gas chamber"/morgue - can you explain that, by the way? If the "gas chamber" was full of toxic gas, then it makes sense to have that room better equipped, but I guess the German engineers were just stupid?), and there is also the outside photo from I believe February 1943 showing some objects on the roof of the morgue. So, I don't think Mattogno's stance of the spots being bitumen is likely (same pattern on both roofs?), Rudolf's stance that they were drawn on is also quite unlikely (both photos in US and UK archives, together with the Luftwaffe photo?); why couldn't they be some kind of air shafts for the intake ventilation system? |
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Post by Agandaur on Jul 25, 2022 21:51:42 GMT
Mattogno believes the black spots on aerial photos of krema 2 and 3 is bitumen leaking through, Rudolf thinks the photos have been tampered with, believers claim they are Zyklon-B introduction holes (except Charles Provan who thinks they are no proof of anything), but couldn't the spots simply be some kind of air vent exhaust installed in 1943, something like: www.constrofacilitator.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/roofing-ventilation.jpg ? AFAIK there are documents from 1943 talking about purchase inventory for the kremas/morgues/undressing rooms listing fans and motors for fans (for which the undressing room had stronger motors than the "gas chamber"/morgue - can you explain that, by the way? If the "gas chamber" was full of toxic gas, then it makes sense to have that room better equipped, but I guess the German engineers were just stupid?), and there is also the outside photo from I believe February 1943 showing some objects on the roof of the morgue. So, I don't think Mattogno's stance of the spots being bitumen is likely (same pattern on both roofs?), Rudolf's stance that they were drawn on is also quite unlikely (both photos in US and UK archives, together with the Luftwaffe photo?); why couldn't they be some kind of air shafts for the intake ventilation system? Of course underground morgues must have air shafts and a fan system; there is only one exit point and that is the roof. |
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Post by fetus on Jul 26, 2022 6:26:04 GMT
I think as per the original designs, canals were installed inside the room leading to the ventilation room, so air exhausts on the roof aren't needed, but it could be possible they adjusted the plan and made them on the roof later, as seen on the outside photo of the morgue with some objects on the roof.
Maybe precisely because the intake ventilation was less powerful in the morgue than in the undressing room, they made extra intake exhausts on the roof?
Also, if we go by the believers' narrative (and original designs), the outtake vents were on the floor level whereas HCN is lighter than air so it rises up. Another stupid design by the German engineers, or just normal design for a regular morgue where the heavy odors go to the floor?
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Post by Nessie on Jul 26, 2022 8:39:28 GMT
There is some detail about the construction of the ventilation system inside the Kremas here; forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=61650It is the testimony of the Topf & Sons engineers, responsible for the work at the Kremas. Karl Schultze was responsible for the ventilation. He also mentions the holes in the roof. "Question: Tell us about the interior installation of the gas chamber! Answer: This building was eight meters wide and 30 meters long. Inside it was completely empty. The height of this building inside was 2.6 meters. On the roof there were four square openings of 25 x 25 centimeters each. The ventilation installation provided for a ten-times air exchange; it served to suck out the gas that had collected and pump in fresh air. The pipes of the ventilation, which I personally constructed for the gas chamber, were immured in the walls of the chamber." The Topf & Sons website is here; www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/en/exhibitions/permanent_exhibitions/the_engineers/128724.html |
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Post by nazgul on Jul 26, 2022 8:45:05 GMT
Tell us about the interior installation of the gas chamber! In court this is regarded as a "leading question"; to an engineer the gas chamber could be for body gases found in morgues. This question has been purposely posited as ambiguous. |
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Post by fetus on Jul 26, 2022 13:32:57 GMT
It is the testimony of the Topf & Sons engineers, responsible for the work at the Kremas. Karl Schultze was responsible for the ventilation. He also mentions the holes in the roof. Whatever any of the defendants at these show trials said should be taken with a grain of salt, first of all. Secondly, he confirmed the existance of holes in the ceiling, which would be used for the air intake ventilation system I am suggesting in this thread. Mind you, as per the official narrative, the outtake exhaust vents were on floor level, easily covered up by thousands of supposedly gassed corpses, rendering the ventilation system useless. Why such a design? For a morgue as originally planned this made sense, for a gas chamber, not even a little. |
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Post by Nessie on Jul 26, 2022 14:22:17 GMT
It is the testimony of the Topf & Sons engineers, responsible for the work at the Kremas. Karl Schultze was responsible for the ventilation. He also mentions the holes in the roof. Whatever any of the defendants at these show trials said should be taken with a grain of salt, first of all. Secondly, he confirmed the existance of holes in the ceiling, which would be used for the air intake ventilation system I am suggesting in this thread. Mind you, as per the official narrative, the outtake exhaust vents were on floor level, easily covered up by thousands of supposedly gassed corpses, rendering the ventilation system useless. Why such a design? For a morgue as originally planned this made sense, for a gas chamber, not even a little. There will forever be unknowns about exactly how the gas chambers worked. Only some people are interested in working out how the gas chambers worked and that is usually for the wrong reasons.
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