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Post by Nessie on Jun 3, 2022 8:39:22 GMT
A thread for the more abusive posts to be deposited. Forum rules request addressing the argument, not the person and no bullying. When a person peppers their responses to another with constant abuse, that is bullying. been-there wrote: I'm not a clinical psychologist so I'm not qualified to say whether or not Nessie is sane. I was married to a psychologist but I don't think that is a qualification for diagnosing someone's sanity. I picked up some of the jargon, though. Nessie seems to have a very rigid personality and is fanatical in his defense of the holyhoax. That fanaticism extends to denying reality such as the rules of trigonometry. That isn't an unusual phenomena. We currently have people who claim to be able to switch their gender at will in complete disregard of genetics. I don't think that either Nessie or the gender-benders can be judged insane on the basis of their fanatical beliefs. History is rife with the harmless (and not so harmless) looney-toonz and nutzoids where most people consider them to be ding-a-lings but not clinically delusional and insane. I think that "disturbed" would be the harshest assessment I would put on Nessie. He's not like one fellow I knew who declared himself to be Jesus Christ and to prove it, took off his clothes and walked naked down the middle of main street in the town we lived.
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Post by Nessie on Jun 3, 2022 9:00:32 GMT
You have fallen for a hoax, which you have been so fooled by, you think that you and a few others are correct and the vast majority, including the vast majority of historians, are wrong. This is off topic and irrelevant. This thread has nothing to do with hoaxes but Treblinka. It is in response to off topic posts by been-there and Turnagain. Been-there has upped his abuse of me, in clear breach of forum rules, with nothing being done about it. I am not going to sit quietly by as he constantly questions my sanity.
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Post by been_there on Jun 3, 2022 19:16:22 GMT
Ive got that [filmed] debate in one of my hard drives. Where does he say that or where does he make this point? Do you have a time frame? Even a rough one will do. Or are you just bullsh*tting again? It is in the chapter on denial, in the book "Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition and Other Confusions of Our Time" Ha ha ha! ๐๐คฃ๐คช I told you! She hasnโt got balls! And she has very little brain. Sheโs clearly insane.
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Post by been_there on Jun 13, 2022 20:34:44 GMT
You are having to estimate how many decomposed bodies fit in a certain space... Estimations and assumptions mean opinions. You like playing the how many graves would fit game... In fact, it is just some calculations you use to support your argument from incredulity. In the real world, you need evidence. No wrong. If you say you could fit yourself in a standard shoebox right now I don't need evidence to say otherwise. I already have the elementary facts of mass and weight in the universe surrounding me that lead directly to a different conclusion. You are trying to reason with someone who doesnโt rely on reason to understand what is real. The holy-hoax is their religion and this person is a self-deluded, cultish โbelieverโ in it.
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Post by mrolonzo on Jun 13, 2022 20:39:34 GMT
No wrong. If you say you could fit yourself in a standard shoebox right now I don't need evidence to say otherwise. I already have the elementary facts of mass and weight in the universe surrounding me that lead directly to a different conclusion. You are trying to reason with someone who doesnโt rely on reason to understand what is real. The holy-hoax is their religion and this person is a self-deluded, cultish โbelieverโ in it. Yeeeaahh I know that all too well. He's a good foil for us though. He does know stuff and his utter contempt for truth and honesty is useful.
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Jun 13, 2022 20:43:12 GMT
ou are trying to reason with someone who doesnโt rely on reason to understand what is real. The holy-hoax is their religion and this person is a self-deluded, cultish โbelieverโ in it. Nessie will just see this as more evidence of "bullying" and will use his moderation authority to move it to abusive post depository. While he no doubt moans like a whore when he is curtailed he is quick to move posts that mention personal attributes, or he disagrees with. I had a post moved because I mentioned that the Hoefle telegram might be a general area and not a camp. moved posts Nessies board.
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Post by been_there on Jun 13, 2022 20:45:47 GMT
You are trying to reason with someone who doesnโt rely on reason to understand what is real. The holy-hoax is their religion and this person is a self-deluded, cultish โbelieverโ in it. Yeeeaahh I know that all too well. He's a good foil for us though. He does know stuff and his utter contempt for truth and honesty is useful. How do you conclude this personโs โutter contempt for truth and honestyโ to be โusefulโ? This topic-thread is supposed to be about ascertaining โwhat constitutes evidenceโ. Yet this delude rejects all reasonable and well-informed evaluation by insanely repeating the false and literally stupid accusation from ignorance of โargument from incredulityโ.
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Post by been_there on Jun 13, 2022 20:50:11 GMT
You are trying to reason with someone who doesnโt rely on reason to understand what is real. The holy-hoax is their religion and this person is a self-deluded, cultish โbelieverโ in it. If [Nessie] is curtailed he is quick to move posts that mention personal attributes, or he disagrees with. I had a post moved because I mentioned that the Hoefle telegram might be [referring to] a general area and not a camp. moved posts Nessies board.Really? ๐ฎ Isnโt that further sign of an inability to understand what is credible evidence, how to then evaluate it fairly, logically and apply unbiased reason to it?
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Jun 13, 2022 21:43:17 GMT
If [Nessie] is curtailed he is quick to move posts that mention personal attributes, or he disagrees with. I had a post moved because I mentioned that the Hoefle telegram might be [referring to] a general area and not a camp. moved posts Nessies board.Really? ๐ฎ Isnโt that further sign of an inability to understand what is credible evidence, how to then evaluate it fairly, logically and apply unbiased reason to it? Most new readers will quickly assimilate the honesty or lack of; the tiresome rhetorical repeats. However, we have a choice to totally ignore this board. Hit the "scream" button in profile (Join the scream group), groups and Nessies board will vanish. Sadly that magic trick won't work on the individual; he can haunt the hallowed hallways of a real discussion with inane babble.
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Post by mrolonzo on Jun 14, 2022 15:01:34 GMT
Yeeeaahh I know that all too well. He's a good foil for us though. He does know stuff and his utter contempt for truth and honesty is useful. How do you conclude this personโs โutter contempt for truth and honestyโ to be โusefulโ? This topic-thread is supposed to be about ascertaining โwhat constitutes evidenceโ. Yet this delude rejects all reasonable and well-informed evaluation ย by insanely repeating the false and literally stupid accusation from ignorance of โargument from incredulityโ.ย It's useful because most people who speak about the holocaust are like this. They don't know anything and will cling on what little they know. Nessie is good training for that.
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Post by been_there on Jun 18, 2022 14:49:35 GMT
๐ฎ Wow! Eric Hunt was an eye-witness to the effects of CO poisoning. He experienced it himself and witnessed it on his girlfriend. They BOTH OF THEM turned cherry-red pink. He even took a photograph of his girlfriend as further evidence. Not necessarily. It is only evidence that is relevant to your argument if Eric Hunt and his girlfriend went obviously cherry red after being exposed to acute levels of CO that would kill in minutes. It is evidence I was unaware of. Can you link to it? I have searched and cannot find it. Your argument is flawed, as it assumes in all cases of acute, fatal gassings, the skin turns obviously cherry red prior to death, an assumption that is not supported and is often contradicted by medical sources. You have yet again shown your inability to understand evidencing and its application. Another literally insane reply that is in denial of reality. ๐คช๐๐คฆโโ๏ธ I never wrote anything about โ ALL casesโ. So another dishonest dodge. Seek professional help. Your inability to comprehend simple biological facts, your refusal to be corrected on what is evidence, and your miscomprehension/lies on how it applies to the racist, anti-German Jew-genocide Holyco$ t calumny is literally psychotic. Make an appointment with your doctor. And while youโre there ask them about the skin colour lying Jewish H-survivor, eye-witnesses WOULD have seen if they really had witnessed millions of fresh corpses of humans who died from CO and HCN poisoning.
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Post by been_there on Jun 18, 2022 19:36:03 GMT
๐ฎ Wow! Eric Hunt was an eye-witness to the effects of CO poisoning. He experienced it himself and witnessed it on his girlfriend. They BOTH OF THEM turned cherry-red pink. He even took a photograph of his girlfriend as further evidence. . Your argument is flawed, as it assumes in all cases of acute, fatal gassings, the skin turns obviously cherry red prior to death, an assumption that is not supported and is often contradicted by medical sources. You have yet again shown your inability to understand evidencing and its application. Nessie is up to her old tricks of censoring posts that expose her deranged nonsense. She calls it abuse. So yet another demonstration that this is a person who does not understand the meaning of simple definitions. Pointing out that a reply โ not a person โ is so in defiance of reality that it is a literally insane reply is not personal abuse. ๐คช๐๐คฆโโ๏ธ And as I never wrote anything about โALL casesโ, that IS another quite insane or dishonest dodge. This persons inability to comprehend simple biological facts, their refusal to be corrected on what is evidence, and their miscomprehension/lies on how it applies to the racist, anti-German Jew-genocide Holyco$t calumny is literally psychotic. I suggested therefore that they seek an appointment with their doctor. That also can not be regarded as โabuseโ by any sane person. I also suggested while there they ask their Doctor about the skin colour that the lying, Jewish, H-survivor, eye-witnesses WOULD have seen if they really had witnessed millions of fresh corpses of humans who died from CO and HCN poisoning. That is also not abuse but would be seeking a qualified medical opinion about a topic this person is in denial of. ๐
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Post by been_there on Jun 26, 2022 17:01:10 GMT
Yeah, and it is part of a consistent delusional disregard for reality. If We followed this delusional approach to reality then the โBirmingham sixโ would have died in prison for crimes it was later proved that they never committed. The only evidence against the Birmingham Six, was... [blah, blah, blah]. The evidence against the ...[blah, blah, blah]... Another deeply moronic reply attempting to move the goalposts. The similarity is that if we used your literally idiotic โreasoningโ then to release the Birmingham six, it would not have been enough to prove they didnโt kill anyone and werenโt involved in the Birmingham Pub bombings. To use your insane logic we would have to ALSO discover who did.
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Post by been_there on Jun 26, 2022 17:01:46 GMT
The only evidence against the Birmingham Six, was... [blah, blah, blah]. The evidence against the ...[blah, blah, blah]... Another deeply moronic reply attempting to move the goalposts. The similarity is that if we used your literally idiotic โreasoningโ then to release the Birmingham six, it would not have been enough to prove they didnโt kill anyone and werenโt involved in the Birmingham Pub bombings. To use your insane logic we would have to ALSO reveal and provide โevidenceโ of who did.
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Post by been_there on Jun 28, 2022 17:13:56 GMT
Nessie wrote: The M&H was mobile, so it could dig a pit any length or width. Its boom only restricts depth.(sigh) Without auxiliary equipment the M&H dragline could dig a pit that contained 32 cubic meters of ex per meter of excavation for as long as you wanted to dig. Adding the fluff, that creates about 36 cubic meters of actual ex. The depth of the excavation is limited by the amount of cable on the spool and the width of the excavation. Theoretically the excavation could be one foot wide and about 100 meters deep. Under no circumstances could the M&H dig a pit of more than 32 cubic meters of ex per meter of excavation without auxiliary equipment to haul the ex away from the excavation. I can't understand why such simple concepts are so incomprehensible to Nessie. This isn't differential calculus, just some very simple trigonometric and arithmetic functions. I think you can. ๐ There is a fairly obvious explanation for why Nessie can't understand such simple concepts and why she finds them so incomprehensible.
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