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Post by been_there on Jul 20, 2022 17:22:29 GMT
I have seen deniers [non-believers/skeptics] admit that there are likely graves at TII...
If you can point me to a denier [non-believer/skeptic] who accepts mass graves at TII, please do so. You are speaking like a cultish true-believer when you insist on demonising anyone who doesnโt share your cultish belief-system with the innaccurate and deliberately perjorative pseudonym โ denierโ. Disbelief/skepticism is not denial. Show the empirical evidence of ground disturbance and cremains consistent with 725,000 bodies at T2 and revisionists will accept it. The truth and facts are that there hasnโt been provided such empirical evidence. That you canโt admit this simple fact is the true DENIAL of objective reality. And that denial is literally insane behaviour. Check the dictionary definition of the word insane if you doubt it. You donโt even understand what the word empirical means when applied to your cultish, true-believer, crazy belief. And that is just one of many words you refuse to understand when it concerns your cultish belief-system. Again, crazy behaviour. You demonstrate repeateadly that you are beyond reason on the topic of your precious holyco$t mass-gassing narrative.  Lessons in logic: Spot the contradiction and the insane illogic of the two contradictory statements in this literally insane reply. NESSIE CONCEDED THIS: โ I have seen deniers [non-believers/skeptics] admit that there are likely graves at TII...โ NESSIE THEN ASKED THIS: โ...If you can point me to a denier [non-believer/skeptic] who accepts mass graves at TII, please do so.โDoes it logically follow from the above that this is further proof we genuinely are plagued by an irrational H-believer who has mental issues?
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Post by Nessie on Jul 21, 2022 18:11:12 GMT
This moved post is not gibberish, it is a reply to the above and on topic rodoh.info/post/9818/threadBeen-there quote mining without context, to make it appear I have contradicted myself, does not logically mean I have mental health issues.
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Post by been_there on Jul 23, 2022 8:28:52 GMT
You are speaking like a cultish true-believer when you insist on demonising anyone who doesnโt share your cultish belief-system with the perjorative of โdenierโ... Lessons in logic: Spot the contradiction and the insane illogic of the two contradictory statements in this literally insane reply. NESSIE CONCEDED THIS: โ I have seen deniers [non-believers/skeptics] admit that there are likely graves at TII...โ NESSIE THEN ASKED THIS: โ...If you can point me to a denier [non-believer/skeptic] who accepts mass graves at TII, please do so.โDoes it logically follow from the above that this is further proof we genuinely are plagued by an irrational H-believer who has mental issues? The above has no removal from context. There is a blatant and EXTREMELY OBVIOUS contradiction here which is demonstrated by removing all the intervening ramblings. That the quite crazed author canโt admit it and seeks to further lie and obfuscate is proof of the logical conclusion suggested above. ๐คช
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Post by Nessie on Jul 23, 2022 9:28:19 GMT
Lessons in logic: Spot the contradiction and the insane illogic of the two contradictory statements in this literally insane reply. NESSIE CONCEDED THIS: โ I have seen deniers [non-believers/skeptics] admit that there are likely graves at TII...โ NESSIE THEN ASKED THIS: โ...If you can point me to a denier [non-believer/skeptic] who accepts mass graves at TII, please do so.โDoes it logically follow from the above that this is further proof we genuinely are plagued by an irrational H-believer who has mental issues? The above has no removal from context. There is a blatant and EXTREMELY OBVIOUS contradiction here which is demonstrated by removing all the intervening ramblings. That the quite crazed author canโt admit it and seeks to further lie and obfuscate is proof of the logical conclusion suggested above. ๐คช There clearly has been removal from content. You have not quoted what was said before or after or linked to the source of the quotes. You have admitted to removing everything else! The full quote is;
"I have seen deniers admit that there are likely graves at TII, as people died on the trains and there was disease at the camp. I have never seen a denier accept that those mass graves could contain any significant number. It is certainly denied that there are mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies at TII. If you can point me to a denier who accepts mass graves at TII, please do so. I would like to find out how many mass graves they accept and how many were buried in those pits."
Deniers admit there are graves at TII, but those graves are not mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies, if you know of a denier who accepts mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies, please show me.
In any case, since when was being contradictory proof of a mental issue?
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Post by been_there on Jul 23, 2022 14:37:32 GMT
The above has no removal from context. There is a blatant and EXTREMELY OBVIOUS contradiction here which is demonstrated by removing all the intervening ramblings. That the quite crazed author canโt admit it and seeks to further lie and obfuscate is proof of the logical conclusion suggested above. ๐คช
" I have seen deniers skeptics admit that there are likely graves at TII, as people died on the trains and there was disease at the camp. I have never seen a denier skeptic accept that those mass graves could contain any significant number. It is certainly denied that there are mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies at TII. If you can point me to a denier skeptic who accepts mass graves at TII, please do so. I would like to find out how many mass graves they accept and how many were buried in those pits."
Deniers skeptics admit there are graves at TII, but those graves are not mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies, if you know of a denier skeptic who accepts mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies, please show me.
In any case, since when was being contradictory proof of a mental issue? POINT 1: The cumulative conclusion of multitudes of posts adding NOTHING of consequence or assistance in establishing historical truth, and instead being only reams of incoherent, illogical, dishonest and idiotic obfuscatory ramblings, points to a severe deficit in IQ. POINT 2: That the proof of the above is consistently met by denial, refusal to admit blatant error and a doubling down on nonsense, together lead to the logical conclusion of some sort of mental issue. Having points of vigorous disagreement is entirely acceptable, especially on such an emotive, contentious controversy as the racist, anti-German, Jewish-holocaust, mass-gassing hate-trope. But the above mentioned behaviour (over years) goes way beyond that. It is THAT which is evidence of some sort of psychosis. Plus, the reality being denied/refuted/insanely non-comprehended in this particular thread is that very recently I myself acknowledged the existence of โmass-gravesโ at T2, and I know I am not alone in that. The reality is that the existence of mass-graves at T2 has never been denied. It is only the claim of them once containing 725,000 corpses and later cremains of 800,000 to 900,000 people which is being demonstrated has NO empirical or documentary evidence supporting it. LOGICAL CONCLUSION: To any sane individual this would be quite a simple point to understand, accept and refute if possible. But not so if someone were mentally deficient in some way.
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Post by been_there on Jul 24, 2022 8:36:24 GMT
Been-there said rodoh.info/post/9890/thread"I myself acknowledged the existence of โmass-gravesโ at T2, and I know I am not alone in that....The reality is that the existence of mass-graves at T2 has never been denied. It is only the claim of them once containing 725,000 corpses and later cremains of 800,000 to 900,000 people which is being demonstrated has NO empirical or documentary evidence supporting it. " OK, since a mass grave can be defined as a grave containing as few as three bodies, what do you accept as a definition of mass grave? Oh boy! ๐คฆโโ๏ธ More moronic miscomprehension and avoidance. These are extremely simple semantic issues. [sheesh ๐คช] OBVIOUSLY the definition of a โmass graveโ can be anything from 3 to 3 million corpses. The point being stupidly avoided is the lack of empirical evidence for a mass-grave containing over 700,000 corpses, as is claimed by the refuted Holocaust narrative. This person clearly does not know what the simple word โdenialโ means. ๐ Any empirical evidence of over 700,000 corpses buried at T2 would be accepted. Obviously! ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
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Post by been_there on Jul 24, 2022 12:46:54 GMT
๐ Oh boy! ANY!!! Donโt you understand the word โ anyโ either?! ๐คช Look up the definition of โempirical evidence. Then provide ANY empirical evidence of a mass grave or graves containing 700,000 corpses at T2. How hard is it for YOU to understand and acknowledge the reality that it is you who are in denial of the FACT that so far there has NEVER been provided ANY for this holyco$t claim!!!!
I am clearly trying to find out what you would consider to be empirical evidence of the mass graves. You answer that question, and then I will tell you if there is that evidence available.
Empirical evidence is defined as "information obtained through observation and documentation of certain behavior and patterns or through an experiment", " information that is acquired by observation or experimentation", "any information you can collect through the processes of observation, experimentation or the use of human senses."
Historians use eye witnesses, documents, physical items, archaeological studies, photos and circumstantial evidence. Specific to evidencing mass graves is the eyewitness evidence to their presence, the archaeological studies of the condition of the camp sites which confirm large areas of excavated ground and the circumstances of mass arrivals and killings at the camp.
Your demand for empirical evidence suggests some other form of evidence that is not from eyewitnesses, archaeology or circumstances. Please give me an example of the empirical evidence you want to see.
๐คช So... Not only does this person clearly not understand simple, basic words, nor simple obvious facts, nor basic logic, but I suggest this reply is conclusive evidence and proof of my previous assertion regarding low intelligence and an inability to discuss rationally, honestly and sanely.
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Post by Nazgรปl on Jul 27, 2022 20:54:40 GMT
If you want any credibility, you do no need to prove what happened. You have not proved there were no gassings, you have merely argued why you do not believe there were any gassings. From reading all your posts and that of the Klowns at Fatui one would think that you and those morons would enjoy watching all those people burn. If you could go back in time I am sure you all would work in unison to enable a self fulfilling prophecy so that the events you dream about might occur. Nessie might light the ovens while Dr Terry procures the gas. You all revel in death and horror.
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