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Post by Nessie on May 27, 2022 10:43:56 GMT
Nessie wrote: Quote Christie saying that. IOW, Vrba wrote a novel about A-B, a fictionalized history. Much like the movie, "Little Big Man" where the protagonist supposedly survived the battle of the Little Bighorn. Nessie does his best to dress up his claim that "the ever so clever but eeevul Narzis knew how to get 'er done". At no point in his questioning, does Christie ask Vrba is he was at A-B, meaning he has accepted before the trial started that he was there. At no point does Christie question the existence of gas chambers at the camp, meaning, again, he has accepted there were gas chambers before the trial started.
Vrba's retort to Christie was spot on, the Nazis did not give him detailed technical descriptions of how the cremated in pits, so he does not know how they were set. He just knows they existed, because he saw them. There is evidence independent of Vrba that corroborates the existence of cremation pits.
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Post by Turnagain on May 27, 2022 10:53:43 GMT
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So, Christie DIDN'T say that he accepted the gas chambers as fact. Christie made it clear that he DIDN'T believe Vrba's account of the gas chambers. Whether Christie accepted Vrba's claim of being at A-B is unknown.
Vrba's retort to Christie was spot on your claim that "the ever so clever but eeevul Narzis knew how to get 'er done".
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Post by Nazgรปl on May 27, 2022 10:56:17 GMT
There is evidence independent of Vrba that corroborates the existence of cremation pits. This poster likes to go in circles and derail. The independent corroboration are the "spaghetti" woman photos taken by the Birkenau propaganda group who admitted their propaganda and other cattle excrement. The photographers were all underground members. |
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Post by Nessie on May 27, 2022 11:24:15 GMT
Nessie wrote: So, Christie DIDN'T say that he accepted the gas chambers as fact. Christie made it clear that he DIDN'T believe Vrba's account of the gas chambers. Whether Christie accepted Vrba's claim of being at A-B is unknown. It is known, since Christie did not question Vrba about whether he was at A-B. If there was evidence Vrba was not at A-B, Christie would have started with that, as it would destroy Vrba as a witness. Christie did not suggest there were no gas chambers, because again, he knows that there is evidence to prove the existence of gas chambers. What is the more credible claim? A - my claim that the Nazis had the technical and construction ability to build gas chambers and dig pits at A-B B - your claim that the Nazis did not have the technical and construction ability to build gas chambers and dig pits at A-B. |
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Post by Turnagain on May 27, 2022 11:46:56 GMT
Christie was the defending attorney at a trial. He couldn't prove that Vrba wasn't at A-B so didn't bring it up. What he thought about Vrba being at A-B is UNKNOWN. Have you been taking Hilberg's mind reading pills? Besides, Christie is dead so have you been communing mentally with his ghost? I think that Vrba's presence at A-B is QUESTIONABLE. His claim that he escaped by hiding in a woodpile and his other lies are about as believable as Wiernik's claim that a bullet bounced off him.
I think that your claim that the "ever so clever but eeevul Narzis knew how to get 'er done" is a bullsh*t excuse for the lies of the so-called witnesses.
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Post by Nessie on May 27, 2022 14:06:57 GMT
Christie was the defending attorney at a trial. He couldn't prove that Vrba wasn't at A-B so didn't bring it up. What he thought about Vrba being at A-B is UNKNOWN. Have you been taking Hilberg's mind reading pills? Besides, Christie is dead so have you been communing mentally with his ghost? I think that Vrba's presence at A-B is QUESTIONABLE. His claim that he escaped by hiding in a woodpile and his other lies are about as believable as Wiernik's claim that a bullet bounced off him. Christie would need evidence to prove Vrba was not at A-B. I am not a mind reader, I just know about evidence, as does Christie. The problem is you do not. Your questioning is just you, yet again, coming up with an excuse to dismiss evidence that does not suit you. No, it is logic. Just because someone cannot describe how something works in a way that is believable, does not mean that person is lying and what they are describing did not happen. Your claim that because you find it too incredible to believe, therefore the witness lied and it did not happen, is a logical fallacy. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/9781119165811.ch17Not matter how often that fallacy is explained to you, you still use it, whilst denying you are using it!!!! |
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Post by Turnagain on May 27, 2022 14:38:19 GMT
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(sigh) Yep, I said that it's questionable if Vrba was ever actually in A-B. I DON'T say that Vrba was lying because he wasn't in A-B. For openers, he lied because he said that the roof of the gas chamber was 6-7 feet high. Always the sly lie from Nessie.
I don't believe that a little boy rode his tricycle to the moon, either. Is that a "logical fallacy"?
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Post by Nessie on May 28, 2022 8:36:25 GMT
Nessie wrote: (sigh) Yep, I said that it's questionable if Vrba was ever actually in A-B. I DON'T say that Vrba was lying because he wasn't in A-B. For openers, he lied because he said that the roof of the gas chamber was 6-7 feet high. Always the sly lie from Nessie. I don't believe that a little boy rode his tricycle to the moon, either. Is that a "logical fallacy"? He was referring to the roof, which was about 4-6 feet from the ground on the outside, as much of it was below ground. |
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Post by Turnagain on May 28, 2022 8:42:31 GMT
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You take claims that are clear impossibilities and declare that in your opinion those impossibilities shouldn't be taken literally. Most Germans who were put on trial hadn't even heard about the alleged mass murder of Jews by poison gas until they were accused. "Confessions" of gassing Jews were either tortured or otherwise coerced from the German defendants and you know it, Nessie.
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