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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 15:58:14 GMT
No there's no need for turnagain to link to and quote where that happened. You're obviously both well aware of the posts from which this Mattogno dispute arises. Turnagain has made a claim that I pretended Mattogno was speaking for himself, I want him to link to and quote me doing that, because I have no idea what he is talking about. It's more likely that you do know what he is talking about. On that point, have you ever taken mattogno out of context and given a meaning to his words that he did not intend to say?
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Post by Nessie on Feb 12, 2022 19:54:39 GMT
Turnagain lies again about a lack of evidence; rodoh.info/thread/286/fake-claims-gassing-melee?page=7&scrollTo=4105The Korherr Report lists the number of people sent to the camps in the General Government, using exactly the same figure as Hofle said about the AR camps, which are all in the General Government. Then the Ganzenmuller Letter and Stroop Reports evidence mass transports to TII, as do the ghetto records, including the Warsaw shuttle train record. Turnagain knows about all of those documents, he is lying when he claims there is no corroboration for the Hofle Telegram.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 12, 2022 20:19:58 GMT
The lies pile on, as Turnagain claims
He asserts that as if he knows what he is talking about, as if he knows about Topf & Sons and the Auschwitz Central Construction Office. He acts as if he has worked his way through all the records and the testimony of those who worked there, and he has found nothing to corroborate Prufer. In fact, he has not even read Prufer's testimony, but he claims to know it is not corroborated.
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 12, 2022 21:39:16 GMT
The lies pile on, as Turnagain claims He asserts that as if he knows what he is talking about, as if he knows about Topf & Sons and the Auschwitz Central Construction Office. He acts as if he has worked his way through all the records and the testimony of those who worked there, and he has found nothing to corroborate Prufer. In fact, he has not even read Prufer's testimony, but he claims to know it is not corroborated. From perusing revisionism its pretty clear Prufer has been dealt with.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 13, 2022 0:43:20 GMT
Nessie wrote: Here is the English translation of the letter that Koherr wrote to "Der Spiegle" The fact that deportees from Treblinka were sent to Majdanek, Budzyn and other destinations in the Lublin district corroborates what was stated by the RSHA.
The hoaxsters all agree that both Himmler in his Posen speech and Hitler promised that they intended to kill every Jew that they could get their hands on. Why then did an internal memo between National Socialists use "codewords" when referencing the murder of Jews? After all, killing Jews was supposedly official policy and publicly spoken of by the highest National Socialist leaders including Hitler.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 13, 2022 11:14:59 GMT
Nessie wrote: Here is the English translation of the letter that Koherr wrote to "Der Spiegle" The fact that deportees from Treblinka were sent to Majdanek, Budzyn and other destinations in the Lublin district corroborates what was stated by the RSHA. It does indeed, but c850,000 were not sent to the Lublin area. Majdanek was the second largest camp after A-B, and it could take up to 150,000. That is why it is credible the Nazis sent a few thousand at most to work there. So, yet again you run into teh problem you like to dodge, of there was no trace of the Jews you claim were being resettled. That is a whole different topic, designed to divert from your constant lying about there being no evidence. You lied there are no documents to corroborate Hofle. Will you now apologise and admit you were wrong?
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 13, 2022 11:50:36 GMT
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First prove that the Hoefle telegram is authentic and wasn't written to match Koherr's numbers. Then explain the grammatical and numerical mistakes in the telegram. You can begin by presenting the original intercept. Then you can prove that the Jews allegedly sent to the camps were murdered. When you accomplish that I'll quietly bow out of the holyhoax debate.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 13, 2022 12:21:00 GMT
Nessie wrote: First prove that the Hoefle telegram is authentic and wasn't written to match Koherr's numbers. Then explain the grammatical and numerical mistakes in the telegram. You can begin by presenting the original intercept. Then you can prove that the Jews allegedly sent to the camps were murdered. When you accomplish that I'll quietly bow out of the holyhoax debate. That has been discussed in a thread specific to the telegram. In this thread we discuss how often you lie about a supposed lack of evidence. You have lied about there being no documents to corroborate Hofle and no evidence to corroborate Prufer. You need to apologise for lying.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 13, 2022 13:09:04 GMT
Hey, dimmy, if the Hoefle telegram is a forgery and it seems likely that it is, it was written to conform to the Koherr numbers. Got it yet? The Koherr report doesn't corroborate jack squat. If you or Witte or anyone else can't come up with the original intercept then the telegram isn't corroborated by anything.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 13, 2022 13:49:42 GMT
Hey, dimmy, if the Hoefle telegram is a forgery and it seems likely that it is, it was written to conform to the Koherr numbers. Got it yet? The Koherr report doesn't corroborate jack squat. If you or Witte or anyone else can't come up with the original intercept then the telegram isn't corroborated by anything. The information contained in the Holfle Telegram is corroborated by multiple documents that recorded mass transports to TII.
Your suggestion that the Hofle Telegram was faked and slipped into the National Archive at Kew is speculation and is a different issue from the corroboration of the information it contains.
You lied that it is not corroborated.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 13, 2022 14:44:52 GMT
Show your corroborative documents. Be specific. That the Hoefle telegram could be fake isn't speculation. The grammatical and numerical errors are concrete evidence that the document could be a forgery.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 13, 2022 16:39:03 GMT
Show your corroborative documents. Be specific. That the Hoefle telegram could be fake isn't speculation. The grammatical and numerical errors are concrete evidence that the document could be a forgery. Grammatical and numeric errors are errors of typos and English speaking staff translating from German.
The documents that corroborate Holfe's arrivals of mass transports at TII are AGAIN, because you know about ALL of the following and you are LYING when you pretend you do not;
You will now make the ridiculous and unevidenced claim that all of the above, along with the Holfe telegram have been faked, in the standard denier manner of making spurious allegations about any evidence that does not suit your existing beliefs.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 13, 2022 17:15:18 GMT
Nessie wrote: Here is the "corroboration" from HRP: IOW, Nessie is trying to sell the suspect Hoefle telegram as corroboration of the Koherr report.
Then we have from Wikipedia: Well, enough of Nessie's mindless bulllshit about "corroboration". Let him stamp his feet and shriek.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 13, 2022 17:30:55 GMT
Nessie wrote: Here is the "corroboration" from HRP: IOW, Nessie is trying to sell the suspect Hoefle telegram as corroboration of the Koherr report.
Then we have from Wikipedia: Well, enough of Nessie's mindless bulllshit about "corroboration". Let him stamp his feet and shriek. See what I mean, you knew about those documents and you lied that there was no document to corroborate the Hofle Telegram. Everything I linked to is evidence of regular mass transports from ghettos to TII. Add that to all of the witness and circumstantial evidence of Action Reinhardt, and there is overwhelming evidence to prove mass transports to TII.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 13, 2022 20:01:51 GMT
Uh-huh, the Koherr report corroborates the Hoefle telegram because the Hoefle telegram corroborates the Koherr report. Idiot.
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