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Post by Turnagain on Jan 21, 2022 20:53:17 GMT
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No, I don't admit that I misrepresented what she said. CS-C admitted that she hadn't found the graves and that she would be returning to Treblinka. If not to find the precise location of the graves and produce further evidence that Treblinka was a death camp, then what? No suppositions from holyhoax la-la land just give alternate reasons for CS-C to return to Treblinka.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 22, 2022 9:24:47 GMT
Nessie wrote: No, I don't admit that I misrepresented what she said. CS-C admitted that she hadn't found the graves and that she would be returning to Treblinka. If not to find the precise location of the graves and produce further evidence that Treblinka was a death camp, then what? No suppositions from holyhoax la-la land just give alternate reasons for CS-C to return to Treblinka. She did not say she had not found the graves. She said she had, with a high probability, located some of the graves. She wants to return to do more investigations, possibly with geophysics that will go deeper, or be able to cope with the memorial. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 22, 2022 9:36:20 GMT
Show me where CS-C states unequivocally that she found the graves at Treblinka. Not that she just found some holes/pits but that she had discovered the location of the graves.
BTW, where's the link to the source that gives the dimensions of all of the holes?
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Post by Nessie on Jan 22, 2022 9:50:03 GMT
Show me where CS-C states unequivocally that she found the graves at Treblinka. Not that she just found some holes/pits but that she had discovered the location of the graves. BTW, where's the link to the source that gives the dimensions of all of the holes? It is in her thesis that I have linked to on lots of occasions. She describes how she found large areas of disturbed ground using various geophysical methods and the finds are listed in an appendix, givening the location and dimensions of each find. She explains that non intrusive geophysics means what is inside the disturbed ground cannot be ascertained, but, from the evidential history of the camp, there is a high probability that each area of disturbed ground can be attributed to being from buried building remains, rubbish pits and graves.
Your attempts to gaslight me are pathetic. You know I have shown you the evidence and have explained it to you on numerous previous occasions.
Again, here
Pages 470 onwards lists all the finds and their dimensions.
Stop pretending you have not been shown that before.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 22, 2022 11:11:23 GMT
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So, Nessie is back to "disturbed ground" and no, CS-C doesn't give dimensions for all of her so-called "disturbed ground". Neither does she present any GPR scans that she claims to have used to locate the "disturbed ground". The question was, did CS-C unequivocally state that she had found the mass graves at Treblinka? Of course she doesn't but Nessie plows ahead with his "disturbed ground". Whatever that means besides just obfuscating bull[excrement].
It's curious how CS-C's work on Treblinka takes up only 230 pages of her 680+ page opus while her "investigation" of Alderney takes up the rest. Much of what CS-C records for Treblinka is commentary about the socio/political situation in Poland, halacha law and other such filler information. She claims to have used GPR for locating the pits/depressions/holes but presents only one scan from that device. Why is that, Nessie? You would think that she would use all of the details to support her claims of "probable graves" etc. She doesn't. She acts more the charlatan trying to hide what she DIDN'T find rather than a honest investigator.
In any event, after the excavations by Lukaszkiewcz and the efforts of the numerous grave robbers, why shouldn't CS-C find evidence of such excavations? The fact remains that CS-C did NOT claim to have found the mass graves at Treblinka. You can turn and squirm, weasel dodge to your heart's content, Nessie, but that IS a fact.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 22, 2022 15:13:45 GMT
Nessie wrote: So, Nessie is back to "disturbed ground" and no, CS-C doesn't give dimensions for all of her so-called "disturbed ground". Yes she does, she gives each find as she reports it in the thesis and then lists all finds and their dimensions page 170 onwards. etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/3531/1/SturdyColls12PhD.pdfYes she does. There are numerous references to and images from the GPR and other scans throughout the report. You have been linked to the below before. Figure 4.32. GPR time slices of feature G44 (shown in red) identified at Treblinka II in the area of the former Death Camp Figure 4.34. A GPR image plot of features G50-54 identified at Treblinka II in the area of the former Death Camp Figure 4.35. A GPR profile showing one of the cut edges of feature G38, identified at Treblinka II in the area of the former Death Camp You have repeatedly suggested she found no graves, that is not true. She found large areas of disturbed ground that based on all the evidence are highly probable to be graves. Which is the "one scan" you refer to? You have said above she does not present any. Which is it? She did. www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363"This revealed the existence of a number of pits across the site. Some may be the result of post-war looting, prompted by myths of buried Jewish gold..." Not it is not a fact. You have misinterpreted her claims, which clearly state she found large areas of disturbed ground in the areas of the camp where witnesses said the mass graves were located. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 22, 2022 18:17:15 GMT
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In that case, quote CS-C claiming that she definitely found the mass graves and give the source of that quote. Not your weasel words about "disturbed ground" or claims of what's probably a grave but a direct statement from CS-C claiming that she found the mass graves.
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Post by Venatแปr on Jan 22, 2022 18:28:03 GMT
All very generalized statements within a km radius it would seem. However, they probably just meant Poland. This reminds me of the photo of the Malkinia loop some 8 km from TII. Nessie says it is in the TII vicinity. LOL.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 22, 2022 19:14:46 GMT
Nessie wrote: In that case, quote CS-C claiming that she definitely found the mass graves and give the source of that quote. Not your weasel words about "disturbed ground" or claims of what's probably a grave but a direct statement from CS-C claiming that she found the mass graves. From her thesis;
"In Treblinka, for example, where the authorities were wary about issuing permission for archaeological work in light of concerns over the disturbance of the site, these methods have indicated the locations of
further graves so that they can be protected in the future..."
From the Staffs University website and the "Finding Treblinka Project", led by her;
"This ongoing research project aims to use innovative forensic archaeological techniques to investigate the former Nazi extermination and labour camps at Treblinka. Over the last twelve years, the team have devised new methodologies that account for the ethical and religious sensitivities, successfully located mass graves, gas chambers and other buildings..."
"Non-invasive geophysical survey has allowed the location of a number of mass graves and cremation pits to be determined in the extermination camp..."
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 23, 2022 19:55:40 GMT
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Who authored that article?
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