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Post by mrolonzo on May 12, 2022 15:06:41 GMT
No there are not. While it's conceivable that there are some bodies buried there it's most likely in the magnitude and circumstances of Belzec. There are no enormous amounts of cremains. Show me your archaeological evidence that site examinations found hardly any cremains. Where is the evidence of people being showered and given their clothes, or new clothes back and then put on to trains and sent onwards for resettlement? No evidence of cremains exists so it can't shown. There is a photo I recall of Jews sorting pots and pans etc in another related camp, they were all clothed. There's no evidence of anyone anywhere in Reich being sent anywhere naked so that's the point of fact that demonstrates the point. |
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Post by mrolonzo on May 12, 2022 18:24:23 GMT
Nessie wrote: For years hoaxsters claimed that only a handful of people escaped Treblinka alive after a rebellion by the inmates. Wiernik wrote in his book that the Germans killed a German woman and her two sons to keep the Treblinka extermination facility a secret. That has been proven to be a lie. Not a "mistake" or an "exaggeration" but an outright LIE. Contrary to Nessie's claims there is no PROOF of Jews being gassed with CO at Treblinka, buried, exhumed, cremated and reburied. Nessie tries to morph his "evidence" into proof but fails and fails miserably. All of his witnesses to the lethal gassing participated in the lie that only a handful of prisoners escaped from Treblinka. That lie makes suspect all of those witnesses testimony. There are 15-20,000 Jews who are KNOWN to have left Treblinka which puts paid to the lie that only a handful of prisoners escaped. Nessie's claim that everyone who isn't recorded as leaving Treblinka was murdered based on the words of known liars is bullsh!t. If 15-20,000 deportees are KNOWN to have left Treblinka alive there's no reason to not believe that the rest of the deportees also left Treblinka for alternate destinations. Note how Nessie never specifically lists his evidence and the quantity of that evidence. For example his claim for cremains being found at Treblinka consists of a tiny handful of unidentified bone shards while he fails to mention the fact that Jews have been video recorded dumping cremains at the site. Nessie has NOTHING to prove that Treblinka was an extermination facility. "Note how Nessie never specifically lists his evidence and the quantity of that evidence. For example his claim for cremains being found at Treblinka consists of a tiny handful of unidentified bone shards while he fails to mention the fact that Jews have been video recorded dumping cremains at the site. Nessie has NOTHING to prove that Treblinka was an extermination" Nessie knows exactly what a weight of evidence means to any reasonable intellect and therefore knows when and where to avoid being specific but also when to require you to be specific. In that very thread on codoh seven years ago he even tried the same trick of denigrating the moderators, of course he was immediately rebutted. |
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Post by Nessie on May 13, 2022 8:14:58 GMT
Thread for posts moved because they are off topic, trolling threads.
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Post by been_there on May 15, 2022 16:15:01 GMT
Nessie wrote: No, it's an outright lie. Mattogno did NOT claim that there were two transports of deportees from Treblinka to Majdanek. That was from Leszczynska. Hmmm? Iโm starting to think otherwise. Iโm not sure anymore if it is a lie. After this one on Mattognoโ quote โ plus all the other recent denial of basic facts in numerous threads โ I start to think it really is a case of disconnect from reality. I.e. it is explained by this person suffering a genuine form of psychosis. |
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Post by mrolonzo on May 16, 2022 17:17:08 GMT
Yes for various life saving and living arrangement reasons. Not once was anyone ever selected to be murdered because that's against SS policy. |
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Post by mrolonzo on May 30, 2022 21:24:06 GMT
How do you do it properly with trained liars. You do it was evidence that is independent of the witness. Which disproved the holocaust. |
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Post by Ulios on May 30, 2022 22:00:18 GMT
You do it was evidence that is independent of the witness. Which disproved the holocaust. Blasphemy  |
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Post by Turnagain on May 31, 2022 1:38:32 GMT
Nessie wrote: In your ignorance you define "rectilinear" as "rectangular". Disabuse yourself. For an explanation go here: www.splashlearn.com/math-vocabulary/geometry/rectilinear-figureCS-C is probably fudging rectilinearity since it's obvious the pits she claimed to have found weren't rectangular prisms. LOL! Every once in a while Nessie comes up with something that is so ridiculous that one can only laugh. The Germans killed three of their own to keep Treblinka secret after turning thousands of deportees loose to blab about the "secret extermination camp" hidden in the Polish forest. That's a good 'un, Nessie. A real knee-slapper. Gas bottles are hermetically sealed to prevent the gas from escaping. They can be both filled and emptied but that doesn't mean that they aren't hermetically sealed. Your definition of "hermetically sealed" is effed up, Nessie. |
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Post by mrolonzo on May 31, 2022 13:21:05 GMT
Nessie wrote: None of the pits supposedly found by CS-C even remotely resemble the mass graves described by Wiernik, Rajchman or Rosenberg. None are rectangular. None are 15, 25, 30 meter wide or even wider. Rajchman doesn't give dimensions for his "larger" graves. If a grave is 26m long and 17m wide, it is a rectangle. The graves are described as rectilinear in C S-C report, so they have straight sides. I don't know why the images of the graves overlayed on the maps used by C S-C appear irregular blobs, since the descriptions are of more regular sided pits. Since the graves were dug into the grave robbers used explosives, it is probably a combination of both, with straight and uneven edges. www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363People's memories fade, you are just ignorant of witness evidence. You must be the only person who thinks someone will see a pit, know exactly how big it is by looking at it and be able to remember the precise dimensions years, if not decades later. Wiernik did not put the grave sizes in his book, so how did he refresh his memory? Only you think that they would let someone go, who had seen what was happening at TII, to return to Germany and tell others what they had seen. That just means the models are not accurate, which we know any way, especially Wiernik's which is not built to scale. Which means you are wrong to take witness descriptions literally, as if the chambers were sealed like a gas bottle. They were never sealed like that, since they had pipes to pump in the gas. When a door with a hermetic seal is closed, saying that chamber is now hermetically sealed does not mean it is not completely air tight and nothing can get in or out. Nessie how do you justify this rubbish? Right here; "Only you think that they would let someone go, who had seen what was happening at TII, to return to Germany and tell others what they had seen." There was no grand secret keeping. People moved around everywhere in and out camps all the time. |
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Post by been_there on Jun 1, 2022 10:55:20 GMT
Donโt you think now that she has shown she is more than just โ ignorantโ? The last few days have confirmed for me that she genuinely has more than just a few screws loose. Your habit of questioning other's mental state, when they disagree with you, is childish and from the exchange above, not appreciated by anyone. You need to grow up and stop. But I am not questioning your sanity because you disagree with me. I just provided a detailed, evidence-based analysis of replies from you that were in denial of reality and/or which grossly misrepresented observable reality. You have again dodged it and misrepresented it as being a disagreement of understanding. It isnโt that. I just gave evidence that it is not that. So ironically your reply here is again proving the point being made. |
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Post by Nessie on Jun 1, 2022 11:12:41 GMT
Your habit of questioning other's mental state, when they disagree with you, is childish and from the exchange above, not appreciated by anyone. You need to grow up and stop. But I am not questioning your sanity because you disagree with me. I just provided a detailed, evidence-based analysis of replies from you that were in denial of reality and/or which grossly misrepresented observable reality. You have again dodged it and misrepresented it as being a disagreement of understanding. It isnโt that. I just gave evidence that it is not that. So ironically your reply here is again proving the point being made. I largely disagree with what you call "evidence-based analysis", because it is based on arguments using logical fallacies and you rely heavily on what you have copy and pasted from other sources.
For you to suggest that disagreement a form of insanity, is wrong. You have been asked to stop and keep your thoughts on my sanity to yourself. Please respect that request.
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Post by been_there on Jun 1, 2022 11:40:16 GMT
But I am not questioning your sanity because you disagree with me. I just provided a detailed, evidence-based analysis of replies from you that were in denial of reality and/or which grossly misrepresented observable reality. You have again dodged it and misrepresented it as being a disagreement of understanding. It isnโt that. I just gave evidence that it is not that. So ironically your reply here is again proving the point being made. I largely disagree with what you call "evidence-based analysis", because it is based on arguments using logical fallacies and you rely heavily on what you have copy and pasted from other sources.
For you to suggest that disagreement a form of insanity, is wrong. You have been asked to stop and keep your thoughts on my sanity to yourself. Please respect that request. I am not suggesting that disagreement is a form of insanity. I have just explained that. Again you have misreprented my reply in a way that is the antithesis of my actual point. That again is a literally insane reversal of reality! If you can not discuss sanely and rationally things like this, it explains why you insist on contradicting viewpoints of experts that you havenโt read or watched and actually REFUSE to familiarise yourself with. I am suggesting that is literally an example of clinical insanity. If you can not address this point โ nor even show sign that you understand it, and instead insists on misrepresenting it and dodging the evidence supplied demonstrating it โ then it explains why your view of this pseudo-history is not a sane nor a rational one. Do you see? |
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Post by Nessie on Jun 1, 2022 13:55:12 GMT
I largely disagree with what you call "evidence-based analysis", because it is based on arguments using logical fallacies and you rely heavily on what you have copy and pasted from other sources.
For you to suggest that disagreement a form of insanity, is wrong. You have been asked to stop and keep your thoughts on my sanity to yourself. Please respect that request. I am not suggesting that disagreement is a form of insanity. I have just explained that. Again you have misreprented my reply in a way that is the antithesis of my actual point. That again is a literally insane reversal of reality! If you can not discuss sanely and rationally things like this, it explains why you insist on contradicting viewpoints of experts that you havenโt read or watched and actually REFUSE to familiarise yourself with. You copy and paste large chunks of text and demand books are read and videos are watched. I am not contradicting the experts, I am asking you questions on your application of the experts to the subject under discussion. Contradicting or questioning experts is not an example of clinical insanity. I see that you only question the sanity of those who disagree with you. If I were to start to agree with you, would not be declaring me insane!!! Now, do you agree to follow forum rules and moderator requests to stop question the sanity of others and to keep your opinions on others sanity to yourself? |
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Post by mrolonzo on Jun 1, 2022 17:49:34 GMT
How do you do it properly with trained liars. You do it was evidence that is independent of the witness. Yes. Hard evidence such as documents. Which for example show that the SS could not have harmed any Jews because it was against orders. |
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Post by Nessie on Jun 1, 2022 18:31:49 GMT
You do it was evidence that is independent of the witness. Yes. Hard evidence such as documents. Which for example show that the SS could not have harmed any Jews because it was against orders. Show me such a document for those who worked at the AR camps and inside the A-B Kremas. |
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