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Post by Nessie on May 13, 2022 12:19:31 GMT
Yes it is. The Wannsee Protocol was open about Jews being worked to death and then said the rest would die from other means. In the east, that was primarily being shot by the Einsatzgruppen, for which there is witness, documentary, physical, circumstantial and photographic evidence. The Holocaust by bullets is one part of the Holocaust. Yes, deaths as attrition, much like their own soldiers, not as policy as per the protocol. As for EG actions that has been studied in detail and was no holocaust either, it was anti partisan action and again, you've got no bodies to back it up, no orders and no reason. Millions of Jews were killed, because they were an enemy of the Nazis. |
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Post by mrolonzo on May 13, 2022 12:29:12 GMT
Yes, deaths as attrition, much like their own soldiers, not as policy as per the protocol. As for EG actions that has been studied in detail and was no holocaust either, it was anti partisan action and again, you've got no bodies to back it up, no orders and no reason. Millions of Jews were killed, because they were an enemy of the Nazis. Nazis had no wish or reason to kill Jews just for being Jews, nor did they ever and in fact they punished those who did as per the documents. In fact they worked closely with them to solve the problem. |
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Post by Nessie on May 13, 2022 12:50:33 GMT
Millions of Jews were killed, because they were an enemy of the Nazis. Nazis had no wish or reason to kill Jews just for being Jews, nor did they ever and in fact they punished those who did as per the documents. In fact they worked closely with them to solve the problem. The EG reported shooting Jews, along with Communists, Partisans and anyone regarded as an enemy.
"The "Jager report" was written by a commander of one of the "Einsatzgruppen" (special task forces) which were in charge of liquidating Jews, communist leaders, partisans and others in the Soviet Union.
To understand the magnitude of the massacres, note the total number of victims - 137,346. This is for one Einsatzgruppe, in a five month period, in one area. This report reflects very clearly on the plan to kill all the Jews, except those which were needed for working purposes; those were, as the report notes, "only" to be sterilized; Jager goes on to state that "if despite sterilization a Jewess becomes pregnant she will be liquidated."
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Post by mrolonzo on May 13, 2022 12:58:17 GMT
Nazis had no wish or reason to kill Jews just for being Jews, nor did they ever and in fact they punished those who did as per the documents. In fact they worked closely with them to solve the problem. The EG reported shooting Jews, along with Communists,ย Partisans and anyone regarded as an enemy.
"The "Jager report" was written by a commander of one of the "Einsatzgruppen" (special task forces) which were in charge of liquidating Jews, communist leaders, partisans and others in the Soviet Union.
To understand the magnitude of the massacres, note the total number of victims - 137,346. This is for one Einsatzgruppe, in a five month period, in one area. This report reflects very clearly on the plan to kill all the Jews, except those which were needed for working purposes; those were, as the report notes, "only" to be sterilized; Jager goes on to state that "if despite sterilization a Jewess becomes pregnant she will be liquidated."
Yes they did shoot people, so what? The Jager report is fake from a number of angles and is definitively addressed by revisionists. |
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Post by Nessie on May 13, 2022 13:01:40 GMT
Why do accept the Nazis shot Jews as the enemy, but not that they gassed Jews as the enemy?
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Post by mrolonzo on May 13, 2022 13:11:24 GMT
Why do accept the Nazis shot Jews as the enemy, but not that they gassed Jews as the enemy? Shooting Jews as partisans is not shooting Jews as Jews obviously so you've embarrassed yourself again. |
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Post by Nessie on May 13, 2022 16:47:45 GMT
Why do accept the Nazis shot Jews as the enemy, but not that they gassed Jews as the enemy? Shooting Jews as partisans is not shooting Jews as Jews obviously so you've embarrassed yourself again.
Shooting millions of Jews, men women and children, as partisans is the Holocaust by bullets.
"As many as two million Jews were killed with bullets and at associated massacres across former Soviet territory."
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Post by mrolonzo on May 13, 2022 17:16:37 GMT
Shooting Jews as partisans is not shooting Jews as Jews obviously so you've embarrassed yourself again.
Shooting millions of Jews, men women and children, as partisans is the Holocaust by bullets.
"As many as two million Jews were killed with bullets and at associated massacres across former Soviet territory."
No such millions of Jews were ever shot. The nazis had no reason to waste time money or bullets on things that didn't harm them, no nazi ever considered a Jewish woman or child as his enemy, and would certainly never ever execute women and children for any reason whatsoever, and your link is worthless drivel. |
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Post by Nessie on May 30, 2022 9:27:31 GMT
Been-there, you appear to have decided on a very narrow definition of debate... No I havenโt. You got busted bluffing and lying. I made clear from the outset what type of debate I was referring to. The holocaust industry has outlawed fair, well-informed, genuine debate in most countries. Most countries do not have denial laws and I have shown you numerous examples of different forms of debate. Fact is, revisionists crumble when challenged, especially by historians. You cry that is a sign the debate is unfair, but it is just a sign of how bad the revisionist claims are. Denial laws are to repress anti-Semitism inherent in Holocaust denial and revisionism. Historians, journalists and even some revisionists have subjected the claims of the Holocaust to detailed examination over the past decades, and no evidence has been found to support a narrative of something other than certain places were used for mass murder. You vaguely defined debate as fair, informed, open and genuine. There are debates that I accept as a debate and you do not. No academic will refute what you call the "bogus narrative" without having contemporaneous evidence as to what did happen. Any academic who merely tries to dispute the existing evidence as bogus, is going to be attacked, because they have strayed from academic standards of evidencing into conspiracy theorist clap trap. |
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Post by Nazgรปl on May 30, 2022 9:29:48 GMT
What has this got to do with how this hoax works.
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