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Post by Ulios on Apr 26, 2022 10:04:39 GMT
"Eighty-year-old ex-Nazi soldier Joseph Burg's rambling testimony included the claim that World War Il was a Zionist plot; and because such statements only helped the Crown's case, Pearson did not even bother to cross-examine him." Many people conclur with mr Burg that WWII was a zionist plot. Asking this stupid question when it is clear he said "he could not find anyone who had operated homicidal gas chambers.". Perhaps you can write to him and ask him the names of who he spoke to. His testimony directly contradicts your witnesses. He said he saw nothing confirming the gassing claims nor any signs in the body language of the inmates; this is corroborated by the sports grounds nearby where no body there saw any signs of gassings or mass murder as well discussed earlier. If there was mass murder the people would notice it but they did not. Thies Christophersen was another witness who said the alleged genocide of Jews during the war never happened. Christophersen supervised about 300 workers, many of them Jewish, at Auschwitz from January to December 1944. On a number of occasions during this period he visited Birkenau where allegedly hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed to death. In The Auschwitz Lie, a memoir first published in Germany in 1973, Christophersen wrote that during the time he was at Auschwitz he did not notice the slightest evidence of mass gassings.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 26, 2022 10:36:01 GMT
"Eighty-year-old ex-Nazi soldier Joseph Burg's rambling testimony included the claim that World War Il was a Zionist plot; and because such statements only helped the Crown's case, Pearson did not even bother to cross-examine him." Many people conclur with mr Burg that WWII was a zionist plot. Asking this stupid question when it is clear he said "he could not find anyone who had operated homicidal gas chambers.". Perhaps you can write to him and ask him the names of who he spoke to. His testimony directly contradicts your witnesses. No it does not. He was never inside a Krema and he has not named any witness who worked inside a Krema or presented their testimony to show what they said happened, that was not gassings. Just because he could not find any witness who was willing to admit to him they had worked inside the Kremas, does not mean therefore no one worked there and saw gassings. The gassings took place inside the Kremas, so unless someone was inside, they could not physically see what was happening. Someone who was only outside and was never inside, is not a witness to what happened inside.
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Post by Hรผntinger on Apr 26, 2022 19:29:57 GMT
The gassings took place inside the Kremas, so unless someone was inside, they could not physically see what was happening. Someone who was only outside and was never inside, is not a witness to what happened inside. Here is a plan of Krema II for those not familiar with the plans. Leichenkeller 1 an alleged gassing cellar was below ground while the ovens are at ground level quite a few metres higher. Not many people are a witness to the inside of a morgue, the clients are very tight lipped. Those operating the ovens were in a different part of the building. Work was compartmentalized, each worker assigned to a single job in one section of the building. However, the scenario in propaganda is presented as people walking to the gas chambers as is claimed in the following image:  or in Spielbergs movie "the Grey Zone"  None of this was seen by sportsman in the nearby fields or others. Of course people were led away in columns for showering; this is described by quite a few ex inmates. It seems that this mass movement of prisoners to be executed was "invisible".
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Post by Nessie on Apr 27, 2022 7:41:36 GMT
Where are the statements of people who played sports near to the Kremas? How do you know what they saw?
It would be far harder to fool all of the hundreds of thousands of prisoners who were at A-B, at some time between 1942 and 1944 into thinking the Kremas were used for mass gassings, that it would be to fool you decades later, into thinking they were not used for gassings.
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Apr 27, 2022 8:03:15 GMT
Where are the statements of people who played sports near to the Kremas? How do you know what they saw? It would be far harder to fool all of the hundreds of thousands of prisoners who were at A-B, at some time between 1942 and 1944 into thinking the Kremas were used for mass gassings, that it would be to fool you decades later, into thinking they were not used for gassings. Most of those sportsmen were POWs, many British. If they saw something untoward they would have screamed this from the roof. The only people screaming are a select few chosen by the "Home army" to convey stories of black propaganda. They scream this was hell while everyone else is getting on with their lives playing sports and working.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 27, 2022 8:16:32 GMT
Where are the statements of people who played sports near to the Kremas? How do you know what they saw? It would be far harder to fool all of the hundreds of thousands of prisoners who were at A-B, at some time between 1942 and 1944 into thinking the Kremas were used for mass gassings, that it would be to fool you decades later, into thinking they were not used for gassings. Most of those sportsmen were POWs, many British. If they saw something untoward they would have screamed this from the roof. The only people screaming are a select few chosen by the "Home army" to convey stories of black propaganda. They scream this was hell while everyone else is getting on with their lives playing sports and working. Show me British POW statements.
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Apr 27, 2022 8:40:32 GMT
Show me British POW statements. Do your own work.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 27, 2022 12:40:53 GMT
Show me British POW statements. Do your own work. IOW, no British POW said he spent any time outside a Krema in 1943 or 1944 and when trains arrived, he would have seen people being sent to the Kremas, if it had happened and instead he saw no one.
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Post by Ulios on Apr 30, 2022 7:54:06 GMT
IOW, no British POW said he spent any time outside a Krema in 1943 or 1944 and when trains arrived, he would have seen people being sent to the Kremas, if it had happened and instead he saw no one. Pierre Berg the young Frenchman, who lost his anal virginity at Birkenau was a ramp Kapo. He said when he arrived he went straight to quarantine, showered and so on. He and his female friend a kapo mentioned nothing about the ramp selection gassings, just the disinfestation.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 30, 2022 8:23:49 GMT
This is drifting off topic, because the deniers cannot dispute that topic. It is far simpler to fool a few deniers with a hoax than it is to fool millions of people, academics, journalists and governments.
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Apr 30, 2022 8:27:40 GMT
This is drifting off topic, because the [truthseekers] cannot dispute that topic. It is far simpler to fool a few [truthseekers] with a hoax than it is to fool millions of people, academics, journalists and governments. The millions of others are just going with the flow with mind numbing conventionality; the art of skeptical thinking is seriously amiss like your fellow jugglers at Klowns.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 30, 2022 8:46:21 GMT
This is drifting off topic, because the [truthseekers] cannot dispute that topic. It is far simpler to fool a few [truthseekers] with a hoax than it is to fool millions of people, academics, journalists and governments. The millions of others are just going with the flow with mind numbing conventionality; the art of skeptical thinking is seriously amiss like your fellow jugglers at Klowns. The use of Occam's Razor is an example of sceptical thinking. You are reluctant to apply it, because you know it is far easier to dispute the evidence of mass gassings, than it is to fake it.
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Apr 30, 2022 8:52:40 GMT
The use of Occam's Razor is an example of sceptical thinking. You are reluctant to apply it, because you know it is far easier to dispute the evidence of mass gassings, than it is to fake it. No one said that this was a Hollywood production, but has aspects of a religion that takes on its own momentum. Surely you do not believe that Jesus, God and all the miracles really happened or Mohammed flew on a horse like creature. There are billions of people who believe in such nonsense. Less believe in the holocaust, not through investigation but through inculcation by the like of people, jews like yourself. It is far easier to go through this process than to transport millions of people to the East and murder them somehow in shacks by using ineffectual means that cannot be replicated.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 30, 2022 8:57:27 GMT
The use of Occam's Razor is an example of sceptical thinking. You are reluctant to apply it, because you know it is far easier to dispute the evidence of mass gassings, than it is to fake it. No one said that this was a Hollywood production, but has aspects of a religion that takes on its own momentum. Surely you do not believe that Jesus, God and all the miracles really happened or Mohammed flew on a horse like creature. There are billions of people who believe in such nonsense. Less believe in the holocaust, not through investigation but through inculcation by the like of people, jews like yourself. It is far easier to go through this process than to transport millions of people to the East and murder them somehow in shacks by using ineffectual means that cannot be replicated.
Mass gassings of millions, that are evidenced to have happened, are far more believable than the mass movement and accommodation of millions of people without leaving any evidence and would need the Nazis to cooperate with their own downfall.
The fact remains that faking the mass gassing by the mass hiding of millions of people, would be far harder to do, that it is to fool a few people into thinking there were no mass gassings.
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Apr 30, 2022 9:05:09 GMT
Mass gassings of millions, that are evidenced to have happened, are far more believable than the mass movement and accommodation of millions of people without leaving any evidence and would need the Nazis to cooperate with their own downfall. This would mean that the 600 camps in Belarus and Ostland where it is said these people went to were empty. The fact that you cannot be bothered to research the obvious is your issue. This is far from a fact, but a fiction of your own mind. No one was hidden, the jews were not under Nacht und Nebel (night and fog) protocols. This is your forum, to keep coming up with "where did they go" adds nothing of consequence, even though it may appease some part of the cerebal cortex you may possess.
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