Jim Rizoli breaks with "crook" Fred Leuchter ─ Oh Nooo

Other than fudging his qualifications, is his report in any way compromised? As I recall, the hoaxsters attacked him personally, his lack of credentials and the fudging of some of his claims rather than trying to debunk his study.

Leuchter's (or Faurisson's) DOUBTS and most of their conclusions about the Nazi Homicidal Gas Chambers (HGCs) were CORRECT but not always their methodologies or arguments. When Leuchter was called on it, he always doubled down. Leuchter may have had Faurisson behind this because that early material became canon.

The solution was not to double-down on mistakes but to DEBATE and to REVISE. That is what Revisionism is all about anyway.

As Fritz Berg put it, "Nazi Gassings Never Happened !"

Germar Rudolf was highly-qualified and did his own on-site chemical testing at Auschwitz after Leuchter and issued his own Report. He also examined the various editions of the Leuchter Report and issued a "Critical Edition," of the LR which I do endorse. Rudolf paid his dues as a Revisionist and a technical expert. Leuchter, not so much.

Fritz Berg for decades had pointed out that some of Leuchter's arguments were just wrong. From the original Leuchter Report, for example, Leuchter published a table showing the properties of HCN gas and the range of concentrations for explosivity. Leuchter erroneously ignored his own evidence in making some of his most dogmatic arguments.

In fact, practical Zyklon-B fumigators never needed to worry about this "explosion danger" because of that very factual data which Leuchter/Faurisson did cite. But Leuchter insisted that he somehow proved that the Nazis "could not have gassed people, only bugs." He actually said this in an e-mail to Fritz and me. But this is just plain wrong and stupid.

Not long ago the state of Arizona refurbished its execution gaschamber, which is about 30 miles or so from where I live. Leuchter went on and on in the Rizoli TV stream about how there was going to be a "botched execution" someday because he was not consulted.

Well, no ─ they actually know what they are doing; they know this because they used qualified engineers as consultants. Leuchter never got either a degree in Engineering or a Professional Engineer endorsement, nor even a contractor's license as far as I know.

I used to have the job title of Broadcasting Engineer and FCC Licensing, but that is not an Engineer in the professional sense. My Dad (retired) was an Aerospace and Nuclear Engineer and was an expert in statistical reliability. He graduated from Brigham Young University in 1960 and did his advanced work at Utah State University in 1964. Fritz Berg was educated in Mining Engineering at Columbia University and graduated in 1965. These are real Engineers.

I studied Electronics Engineering Technology for two years and worked in the field before switching gears and getting a BA in History, but I would call myself a Technologist and not an Engineer in this context because I don't have a degree in that. I might call Mr. Leuchter a "Technologist," and I think he does have a degree in History as well, but he is not an Engineer or a PE.

I will concede that Mr. Leuchter was acknowledged by the Zündel court in Toronto in 1988 as being an expert in American execution technology, for which his Report was compiled, but that is not the point.

In any case, I do question Leuchter's expertise in this matter of executions. The old-fashioned "diving bell" sort of lethal gas chamber might have some complications to it because it generates HCN from a cyanide salt and battery acid, and the condemned prisoner can therefore smell pungent fumes as a result, so they sometimes "act out" during the execution ─ but that is not the same as "botching" it.

And, as Fritz pointed out, it would not have been hard to mass-murder people with poison gas IF the Germans had actually been interested in doing so. The hard evidence and their own and contemporary technical literature on the subject of fumigations and Zyklon-B speaks otherwise about the Nazi HGC canard.

Prof. Faurisson issued his famous challenge to "show me or draw [for] me a homicidal gas chamber" and Fritz did so with either Zyklon-B or carbon monoxide, thereby proving that the Germans did NOT do so.

The most practical way to do this for state executions today would be inert nitrogen gas, and this is important because medical-grade chemicals and materials for capital punishment are increasingly boycotted or embargoed by powerful Leftists. A poorly-skilled phlebotomy technician can "botch" a lethal injection easily enough if he can't find a condemned prisoner's vein, for example. Using lethal gas is better in my opinion, but the current execution method is too complicated ─ though not worse than lethal injection as far as I'm concerned.

The bottom line is that Fritz Berg could be dogmatic in his own right, but he pegged Fred Leuchter early as a dishonest con man. Jim Rizoli has been one of Fred's most stalwart defenders, and for him and Diane King to break with him now is very significant for the Revisionist community ─ but REVISIONIST SCHOLARSHIP WILL ULTIMATELY BENEFIT.

I do admire what Fred did in Communist Poland and for withstanding the calumny he has received from helping the Revisionist cause and helping the Zündel legal defense ─ but Fred Leuchter is not the Pope of Revisionism any more than late venerable Prof. Robert Faurisson was.

I'm a hard historiography kind of guy. Unlike the older Revisionists, who tended to think that once a few hard facts were known, the Holocaust "Hoax" would collapse like a house of cards, I take the view that the Big-H is not just ancient war propaganda but a modern secular establishment faith. It is not even just about the Joos.

The Establishment has ingrained and endowed the Holocaust mythology with billions of dollars of propaganda which has only increased the farther removed we are from the war. Name any town of any substance in Europe or America that does not have a Holocaust memorial or one being funded by Jewish and political or business elites. We are talking about scores of billions of dollars if not more.

To the day he died, Mr. Berg was incredulous that what he called "the Hoax" was still canonically believed.

But it is fully understandable if one considers the high level of "maintenance" the political and mass-media Establishment commits to it.

And the kicker is that they are NOT interested in Truth. To prove this, one only needs to look at the establishment opprobrium ─ sometimes Criminal sanctions ─ just for skeptically QUESTIONING this matter.

I am not a Liberal in any more than the classical sense, but Liberalism has limits. I am not a Libertarian nor an Anarchist. The Hoaxsters are the real bigots here; they are hoisted by their own "liberal" petard. That is why transparency and open-debate are so important ─ especially if some (or most) only support dialog and debate when they, themselves like it. If limits are placed on debate it is a slippery slope to tyranny. That is why it is perfectly "Kosher" to criticize Jews, and in fact ANYONE.

When Fritz Berg was wrong, I called him on it. He made a couple of doozies, to be honest. He thought, for example, that the Hot-Bulb engines that powered the common wartime German Lanz Bulldog farm tractors were DIESEL engines, but they are NOT. In fact, with or without a Wood-gas (mainly carbon monoxide) converter on them, these "waste oil engines" are not true diesel or "compression ignition" engines, and they therefore do generate plenty of deadly carbon monoxide in their exhaust.

Fortunately, no Hoaxsters were qualified Engineers or were technically knowledgeable enough on the subject to implicate the common German farm tractors used in Poland during the war as murder weapons for the gassing legend. Otherwise, it would have been harder to disprove some of their claims (lies).

The point is that Fritz understood that I was not the enemy. We would always have a friendly back-and-forth.

And nobody else is the Revisionist Pontiff, not even Prof. Faurisson, a great man who defacto authored the original 1988 Leuchter Report, apparently.

By my way of thinking, the way to WIN this thing is to keep producing and publishing solid historiography.

Germar Rudolf, who after the death of Bradley R. Smith (1930-2016) now runs CODOH (not the discussion forum) has personally worked hard to publish scores of solid Revisionist reference books. Holocaust Revisionism, therefore, is on the cusp of mainstream scholarship ─ even with abject hostility from the Establishment, and certainly from Academia, which is controlled by Leftists. I have even been able to get University Libraries to accept some Revisionist works, and that is ordinarily VERY difficult even for anodyne books unless they are requested by a Communist professor.

So Revisionism is a slow historical and scholarly PROCESS, and it is EARNED one piece at a time. Nobody rests on their Laurels. Science was not invented with a great epiphany when Newton had the proverbial apple drop on his head, or when Galileo supposedly dropped some weights from the Leaning Tower of Pisa, or asked the Inquisition to actually look through his heretical telescope for themselves.

What cannot be tolerated is what Fritz Berg called "an orthodoxy of our own."

Do read the latest edition of the Rudolf Report and Rudolf's Leuchter Reports (Critical Edition). They are classics.

Another sober Revisionist is Prof. Arthur R. Butz, the nearly-nonagenarian Northwestern University Electrical Engineer (a real EE) whose Hoax of the 20th Century jump-started modern Revisionist scholarship in 1976. We have learned a great deal more about the subject since then.

When I began listening to Jim Rizoli’s first video it became clear to me Leuchter was waiting for Margaret Huffstickler to die in order to not pay back the money he owed her before Rizoli who knows Fred in real life even mentioned it. This whole situation is shocking in the extreme.

Do Americans normally place loaded assault rifles upright on top of cabinets and lean them against the wall? Was John DeNugent sending a message to Fred Leuchter by doing just that in this video?

Very sadly it appears Margaret Huffstickler’s cancer is returning and Fred may see his wish she dies sooner rather than later come true. Unfortunately for Fred he seems to have not included John DeNugent in his calculations.

I dunno. It just states a conclusion the way one-liners do. Fritz doesn't mean don't investigate further ─ just the opposite, and he leaves a large, and at one time original, body of work on this subject.

Mr. Berg tended to think that the secret sauce that was missing was an ((( Edward Bernays ))) kind of Madison Avenue marketing approach to Revisionism, as the necessary and important facts were already out; it was just a matter of convincing the dumb herd. But if that is true, then it must be realized that the enemy for his part has an open bank account to fund as much Holo-propaganda as they want, so gimmick-marketing is not the answer either.

Anyway, I fail to see any problem with his slogan:




It says: "Nazi Gassings Never Happened."

And then in German: "Nobody Was Gassed!"

I am not sure what is ambiguous about that.

He probably should have kept both parts in English, but I don't see how anybody can conclude that we are talking about gassing clothing here.

In fact, one might wish that this were the case.

It probably comes as a big surprise to many Normies, those who have been trained to believe in the Holocaust story since they were kids, that the Germans actually legitimately had Zyklon-B in the camps for sanitary fumigation of buildings and clothing. Indeed, they actually couldn't get enough of it.

The facts are that immigration control points such as Manly Quarantine Station at Sydney Harbour, Lytton at Brisbane, and ports of entry such as Ellis Island at New York, and the Santa Fe Bridge at El Paso, Texas ─ were places where things like steam autoclaves and Zyklon-B were used for disinfecting and fumigating immigrant clothing, and even gassing railroad rolling stock.




During both World Wars the Germans ─ and between the wars, the Allies ─ practiced the Cordon Sanitaire in Eastern Europe because tens of millions were dying there of Typhus. Maybe they did the job too well because these necessary measures are virtually unknown today in Western Europe and America. Sometimes history requires putting facts into their proper context.

"Lite" Revisionists like David Irving, Mark Weber, and David Cole try to have it both ways by saying that there were "some" gassings ─ maybe not as "massive" for some reason as we were led to believe by propagandists after the war ─ but surely the gist of the homicidal gassing story must be true. Sometimes they indulge in denigrating "Deniers" for their foolishness in doubting Jewish claims, but they don't really grace us with any new evidence, either.

David Cole, in particular, is always full of strawman arguments about how bonfires somehow burn teeth into nothingness. Well, I have seen "cremains," and the ashes are more like coarse sand than ash. Depending on how finely the cremains are pulverized, you can easily see recognizable pieces of teeth in there that aren't going into oblivion so easily. But massive hauls of broken teeth are exactly what we don't find in alleged mass graves at certain "Extermination Sites."

In any case, a falsehood is still a Lie, and it simply has not been proved that the Germans homicidally gassed anyone thus far.

I think Fritz's slogan is much more useful than Prof. Faurisson's "No Holes ─ No Holocaust" which acts not as a summation but as a Rorschach test.

It is a largely a matter of belief whether the Germans made holes in the roofs of basement morgues in the crematoria buildings in order to pour in the Zyklon-B fumigant to kill prisoners ─ or whether the Soviets after the war just crudely chiseled some holes in the destroyed building remains (and in the process cutting or bending the inconvenient rebar out of the way).

So the always-edgy David Cole and others now just want to move the goalposts somewhere else.

As I listened to the last video posted above with Margaret Huffstickler and John DeNugent, Jim Rizoli said something which set alarm bells ringing for me. He said he had helped Fred out when the Department of Health had become involved in Fred’s life because of huge amounts of trash in his backyard. Fred Leuchter is now 79 years old and I am wondering if he is still playing with a full deck of cards?

Without knowing Fred’s cognitive state and hearing his side of the story I feel it it would be unfair to judge him at this time. If Fred really is blowing hundreds of thousands of dollars on gambling, cocaine and $500 hookers he is currently having more fun than me. 







The moral of the story in this case is:"Neither a Borrower Nor a Lender Be"

Hi All.

I haven't been around for some time.

So I just decided to check in and am disappointed to hear about Fred Leuchter.

If his claims were largely valid and accurate about the concentration camps, might it have been more prudent for Jim and Diane to deal with this privately?