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Post by NorrisCrippen on Mar 28, 2022 19:23:49 GMT
The entire Ukrainian government is a puppet show controlled from Washington DC. In the video below we hear Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt discussing which individuals will make up their puppet government.
This video is from 2014 , the year when the Russia made it's first illegal attempt at invading Ukraine . The ambassador casts doubt on Vitali Klitschko's ability to occupy a senior government post, and dismisses the EU for it's inaction using foul language. So, nothing to get too excited about here, Charles.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 28, 2022 20:46:30 GMT
Norris Crippen wrote: I'm not "praying" that Putin wins. I expect that he will achieve his objectives in Ukraine. If he doesn't then he will lose so much stature on the world stage that he will either have to resign or be given the boot. As far as his method of governing, how is that so different from ours? Biden and his collection of Jews and scoundrels are liars, criminals, thieves and murderers, too. Ever hear about "Arkancide"? Our uneducated rabble are thugs, thieves and drug addicts so your case is pot meet kettle. Does anyone think that faggot Zelensky who plays the piano with his dick is the saint and savior of Ulraine? Get real. I'm struggling to see any credible comparisons between Putin (and his government) and the leaders/government of USA/UK/France/Germany etc. For one, are you aware of any murders being carried out from the current leaders of 'the West' ? Putin and his cronies are accused of murdering the following opponents and critics : Alexander Litvinenko Anna Politkovskaya Natalia Estemirova Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova Boris Nemtsov Boris Berezovsky Paul Klebnikov Sergei Yushenkov Sergei Magnitsky Yuri Shchekochikhin Not forgetting the attempted murder of Sergei Skirpal in Salisbury, UK, which led to the death of an innocent woman who was exposed to the Novichok left in a bin. And also not forgetting the current main opposition to Putin in Russia , Alexei Navalny, who was also poisoned and is now jailed on fabricated 'fraud' charges. Do you have any examples of the western leaders murdering anybody to shut them up or jailing any opposition leaders on fabricated charges ? Also, can you tell me how Putin made his fortune please ? It is claimed he is worth approx 200 billion dollars. How could he obtain such wealth on an annual salary of $140,000  Edit : No I havent heard of 'arkancide'. I've just googled it and nothing appears other than the name of some song. How many western problematic figures have died in modern history? The US jails people right now or doesnt let them fly around the country.
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 28, 2022 21:45:00 GMT
Norris gave CNN as a source along with a subsidiary of a private Indian company. He's apparently a regular consumer of CNN propaganda but claims to not be propagandized. Been there, I think that you're urinating into an adverse weather condition trying to reason with Norris. If you have any doubts over the accuracy of the facts in those sources then maybe you should make it known, rather than just post lame comments like above LOL! Lookee here, boys and girls. We have an up front true believer in the honesty and integrity of the U.S. main stream media, the MSM, especially CNN. That's the propaganda station whose most recent cockup was to send a flak vest and helmet wearing "reporter" to Edmonton, Canada to report on the latest attack on a tank farm by the eeevul Rooshians. The problem, of course, was that there was no military presence at the site and firemen with "Edmonton" written on the back of their coats were clearly seen. That and other gaffes such as using footage from a video game, green screen footage of other "reporters" and the stooge, Zelensky. Norris clearly eats it up with a spoon.
Sorry, Norris, but touting CNN as an honest reporter of the events taking place in the world marks you as a gullible fool. The Indian company is privately held so who is behind them and their political agenda is unknown. Their willingness to take their lead from CNN and the MSM is reason to view them with a jaundiced eye. You may now begin your rant about "marginal conspiracy theorists " and how they "see Jews behind every bush". Never mind that the cabinet of the potato occupying the office of president are Jews almost exclusively. Us goyim shouldn't pay any attention to such details.
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Post by been_there on Mar 29, 2022 7:13:50 GMT
I go with the evidence, just like the Skirpal GRU events which I laid out for you in my previous post, and the embarrassing attempt by Putin to deny responsibility . Maybe you might call this total f*** up /sham attempt at denying responsibility as 'propaganda' , but again , that's just a reflection on your biasedness and dishonesty. You haven't even responded to my comments on it ! I think even you will struggle to defend your beloved Mother Russia...Ha ha! 🤣😂 This person now thinks I love Russia. 🤦♂️🙄 What an extremely pathetic miscomprehension and immature misrepresentation of what has been explained to him. Regarding the blatantly obvious Salisbury ‘false flag’ Skripal poisoning, here is some info for anyone else interested in the problems of the ’official’ narrative on that:
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Post by been_there on Mar 29, 2022 12:28:55 GMT
The entire Ukrainian government is a puppet show controlled from Washington DC. In the video below we hear Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt discussing which individuals will make up their puppet government.
This video is from 2014 , the year when the Russia made it's first illegal attempt at invading Ukraine . The ambassador casts doubt on Vitali Klitschko's ability to occupy a senior government post, and dismisses the EU for it's inaction using foul language. So, nothing to get too excited about here, Charles. ...Victoria Nuland, acting first as US special envoy on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (2010–2011) then as a State Department spokesperson, was a key figure in the US support for the Euromaidan coup and for the Nationalists who led it. She liaised with the US Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey R. Pyatt, to orchestrate the neo-Nazi takeover. By 2013, the US had established so-called TechCamps in Ukraine. Speaking in the Rada on 20 November 2013, the day before the Euromaidan protests began, pro-Russian MP Oleg Tsaryov revealed that US TechCamps had been established in Ukraine to foment revolution. Tsaryov claimed that these US TechCamps schooled activists on how to use information warfare techniques to undermine government institutions. His revelations could perhaps be dismissed as uncorroborated and partisan were it not for the fact that the revolution he was predicting took place a couple of months after he delivered his warning. The now-infamous phone call between Nuland and Pyatt has largely been reported in the West with a focus upon Nuland’s “[fornicate] the EU” comment. But that was perhaps the least interesting aspect of the call. Their bugged conversation was leaked on 4 February 2014, more than two weeks before the Maidan square massacre and the formal transition of power. It revealed that the form of the new government had already been drawn up by the US and that the plan was sanctioned at the very highest level of the US administration. It also showed that the US State Department knew it was working in partnership with the neo-Nazis — the very groups who slaughtered fellow citizens to give the coup its final push. Their conversation made it clear that Nuland and Pyatt had absolutely no respect for Ukrainian democracy or for democratic principles in general. Thus, the current US-led Western alliance’s reprimand of Russia for ignoring democratic values is nothing but rank hypocrisy. There are some notable excerpts from the transcript of the conversation. Nuland asked Pyatt, “What do you think?” His reply, “I think we’re in play,” clearly indicates that the US administration had a preconceived plan. Pyatt then acknowledged that the US had already decided that Vitali Klitschko wouldn’t “be in the government,” despite his being a prominent Maidan leader and the proposed Deputy Prime Minister. Prior to the completion of the coup, Klitschko announced he was going to run for president. But having been offered no government role after the coup, he withdrew his presidential candidacy and suddenly announced he was running for Mayor of Kyiv instead. He was elected in June 2014. All as ordained by Nuland. When Nuland stated, “I think Yats is the guy,” she was referring to Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Sure enough, following the coup, he was appointed as the Prime Minister of the Maidan government, exactly as planned. Pyatt advised Nuland that “the problem is gonna be with Tyahnybok and his guys.” This was a reference to Svoboda, the Right Sector, White Hammer, C14 and the other neo-Nazis. Although Nuland didn’t want Tyahnybok to be in the government, she clearly envisioned the neo-Nazis remaining a powerful political force in Ukraine. In order for the Maidan government to operate as required, Nuland advised Pyatt that the chosen Prime Minister, Yatsenyuk, needed: Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week. The new US-appointed Maidan government would go on to work closely with the neo-Nazis. This relationship provided the neo-Nazis with the power and authority they could not hope to gain from the Ukrainian ballot box. The White House was undoubtedly behind the plan for the new government. Though there is no direct evidence that the US-led NATO alliance actually directed the Maidan massacre, we can see it served the US agenda precisely. It is no surprise that after the coup the Maidan neo-Nazis were rewarded with government positions by the newly imposed Yatsenyuk government. Pyatt indicated he was eager to employ some political heavyweights to make the undemocratic overthrow of an elected government “stick.” Nuland suggested Joe Biden, who was then the Vice President of the United States, as someone who would do the job. “Biden’s willing,” she added. Indeed, Biden’s numerous subsequent visits to Ukraine in the early years of the Maidan government underscore the reason for Nuland’s confidence. It wasn’t just Democrats, like Biden, who supported the neo-Nazi led coup. Republican Sen. John McCain was an avid proponent, too. Like Nuland, who literally gave bread to the Maidan protesters, McCain visited the scene of the crime. So did then-US Secretary of State Sen. John Kerry, a Democrat. Both sides of the US political establishment were pushing for revolution. ...Ukrainian party politics is not as clearly defined or stable as elsewhere in Europe. Parties frequently change their names and split or merge as politicians shift their allegiance. It is easier to think of Ukraine parties as blocks (blocs) formed from various factions. The Maidan-appointed interim President was Oleksandr Turchynov, and the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine (MVS) was Arsen Avakov. Andriy Parubiy, in another win for the neo-Nazis, was given the role of Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine. Together with Yatsenyuk, the three formed the People’s Front (originally People’s Action) in March 2014. The People’s Front fully emerged in September 2014, when Arsen Avakov and Andriy Parubiy split from Yatsenyuk and Tuchynov. Yatsenyuk then joined the Petro Poroshenko bloc (subsequently named the European Solidarity party). The game of musical chairs and the eventual 2014 presidential and parliamentary elections left Poroshenko as the elected President and Yatsenyuk as Prime Minister. Tellingly, it also left Avakov and Parubiy, the “commandant of Euromaidan,” with a firm grip on Ukrainian national security. The Maidan government, established by Nuland, Pyatt, Kerry, Biden, Obama, McCain and others, empowered the far-right politically. After the coup, President Obama made a speech that reaffirmed his administration’s treachery. Barry said: “Throughout this crisis, we have been very clear about one fundamental principle: the Ukrainian people deserve the opportunity to determine their own future”. Nothing could have been more deceitful. The Ukrainian people were being manipulated and robbed of the chance to “determine their own future”. off-guardian.org/2022/03/28/ukraine-war-what-is-it-good-for-the-nazi-agenda/
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Post by Ulios on Mar 29, 2022 16:57:48 GMT
The Ukrainian people were being manipulated and robbed of the chance to “determine their own future”. While we can debate on this the reality is that this is what Putin and his administration thinks. Interestingly though the Russkis have reduced operations in good faith around Kyiv due to negotiations. Of course this could be where they have lost.
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Post by NorrisCrippen on Mar 29, 2022 19:44:34 GMT
Can somebody tell me why Russia has invaded Ukraine and destroyed thousands of buildings, including hospitals and schools, and killed and wounded thousands of innocent people by launching missiles at residential buildings and shooting innocent Ukrainian citizens for no reason ? What is the justification for this aggression ?
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Post by Ulios on Mar 29, 2022 19:48:18 GMT
Can somebody tell me why Russia has invaded Ukraine and destroyed thousands of buildings, including hospitals and schools, and killed and wounded thousands of innocent people by launching missiles at residential buildings and shooting innocent Ukrainian citizens for no reason ? What is the justification for this aggression ? It is the perception of the Russian administration that the Allies are using Ukraine as a tool for their own purposes. This is perhaps justified. As a response Putin has correctly claimed that Ukraine is the birthplace of Russian culture, a part of Russia with loony Nazis running an asylum of sorts.
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Post by NorrisCrippen on Mar 29, 2022 20:06:06 GMT
If you have any doubts over the accuracy of the facts in those sources then maybe you should make it known, rather than just post lame comments like above LOL! Lookee here, boys and girls. We have an up front true believer in the honesty and integrity of the U.S. main stream media, the MSM, especially CNN. That's the propaganda station whose most recent cockup was to send a flak vest and helmet wearing "reporter" to Edmonton, Canada to report on the latest attack on a tank farm by the eeevul Rooshians. The problem, of course, was that there was no military presence at the site and firemen with "Edmonton" written on the back of their coats were clearly seen. That and other gaffes such as using footage from a video game, green screen footage of other "reporters" and the stooge, Zelensky. Norris clearly eats it up with a spoon.
Sorry, Norris, but touting CNN as an honest reporter of the events taking place in the world marks you as a gullible fool. The Indian company is privately held so who is behind them and their political agenda is unknown. Their willingness to take their lead from CNN and the MSM is reason to view them with a jaundiced eye. You may now begin your rant about "marginal conspiracy theorists " and how they "see Jews behind every bush". Never mind that the cabinet of the potato occupying the office of president are Jews almost exclusively. Us goyim shouldn't pay any attention to such details.
Those 2 sources were a couple from hundreds. But considering it appears to be too upsetting for you to read about Putins wealth (I mean, who could get wound up about that other than a Putin arse licker ) then maybe you would care to produce some more 'credible' sources that report on how skint he is . Do you have any ?
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Post by NorrisCrippen on Mar 29, 2022 20:09:17 GMT
Can somebody tell me why Russia has invaded Ukraine and destroyed thousands of buildings, including hospitals and schools, and killed and wounded thousands of innocent people by launching missiles at residential buildings and shooting innocent Ukrainian citizens for no reason ? What is the justification for this aggression ? It is the perception of the Russian administration that the Allies are using Ukraine as a tool for their own purposes. This is perhaps justified. As a response Putin has correctly claimed that Ukraine is the birthplace of Russian culture, a part of Russia with loony Nazis running an asylum of sorts. Right, so no justification then. Just the crazed notion of a mentally ill murdering colonialist . Funny how some posters on here appear ok with that, and some openly supporting Russia. Maybe they too share the same illness as Mad Vlad ?
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 29, 2022 20:51:39 GMT
It is the perception of the Russian administration that the Allies are using Ukraine as a tool for their own purposes. This is perhaps justified. As a response Putin has correctly claimed that Ukraine is the birthplace of Russian culture, a part of Russia with loony Nazis running an asylum of sorts. Right, so no justification then. Just the crazed notion of a mentally ill murdering colonialist . Funny how some posters on here appear ok with that, and some openly supporting Russia. Maybe they too share the same illness as Mad Vlad ? What is your problem with the invasion? Do you get this upset at every invasion?
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 29, 2022 21:55:16 GMT
Norris Crippen wrote:
Nope, don't know how much money Putin has in the bank and neither do you since you get your propaganda from CNN. I imagine he's stashed a good bit if he's anything like our politicians or Zelensky who is known to have socked away a good bit in a very short time. Our politicians go to D.C. to do good and they do very well indeed.
Say, did you see the CNN report on how the eeevul Rooshians bombed (or shelled) that tank farm in Edmonton, Canada? Lots of flames and clouds of black smoke. The dirty dogs. Well, according to CNN the Ukies are winning. They even showed film of a Rooshian attack chopper getting shot down. Well, no matter that it was a clip from a video game. It coulda' and shoulda' happened and besides, CNN viewers will believe it.
Have you seen the Russian version of what's been happening in Donetsk(sp)? It would seem that the war on eastern Ukraine has been going on for a bit longer than the eeevul Rooshian invasion. No clean hands in this shitshow but of all involved, Putin and the eastern Ukrainians seem to have the least dirt on them.
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Post by 𝐒𝐜𝐨𝐭𝐭 on Mar 30, 2022 2:07:41 GMT
The question as to which side should White Nationalists support in the current Ukrainian war is a hot topic of debate right now. Nationalists and White Nationalists are divided over the conflict. My view is that I want what is best for White people, and what is best for the Ukrainian and Russian people, and for the soonest end to the conflict that can be worked out, with an agreement that both sides can live with. Over the weekend Traditional-Catholic (meaning that he rejects Vatican II and pretends to be fighting the Joos) Dr. E. Michael Jones debated Dr. Greg Johnson of Counter-Currents webzine. Both EMJ and GJ are weak on the Holocaust but not extremely so. GJ is a "Big Tent" White Nationalist meaning that he doesn't reject most civic nationalists, Holocaust Deniers, or Nazis. I am not an admirer of E. Michael Jones, anti-Semite or not. I think he is faking it ─ giving some lip service to Revisionists and White Nationalists. EMJ literally sees no difference besides color between a (White) Irishman and a Negro as long as they both have taken the Latin Rite sacraments. He criticizes Jews only because they are the enemy of Christ. I missed the second part of the debate and will have to finish it later, but it is available at Odysee: After the debate, Greg Johnson published an article on Counter-Currents that I think is well worth reading. EMJ endlessly repeats the charge that supporting Ukrainian nationalists might as well be advocating for the "Gay Disco" (referring to the 2016 terrorist attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida by a Jihadi) and this argument is pretty weak. Greg Johnson says in the debate that he does NOT support promoting LGBTQ. Dr. E. Michael Jones is famous for strawmanning and baldly mischaracterizing his opponent's positions in debates. So I am leaning slightly towards Dr. Johnson in this matter of supporting the self-determination of the Ukrainian people. However, I am extremely skeptical of the idea of supporting them materially rather than just morally, and certainly not militarily. The current Ukrainian regime is (((Kosher))) and therefore not laudable. The fact that the Usual Suspects in Washington and the EU are calling for war against Russia is extremely suspect. I am skeptical of NATO and think that it mostly ended its usefulness when the Soviet Union broke apart. I also don't think it is a good idea expanding NATO into former Soviet Union territories with the exception of the Baltic states and Moldova. Belarus does not want to join NATO and is loyal to Moscow. However, Johnson makes a good point that had Ukraine joined NATO, Putin could not have invaded. The point of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was Article 5, that an attack upon one is an attack upon all. This is a very good deterrent, especially since it is tipped with nuclear weapons. On the other hand, I think centuries-old Russian claims to a warm-water port and the Sevastopol naval base are legitimate. And I don't agree with the argument in some circles that had the Warsaw Pact expanded to Canada (as part of supposed Canadian self-determination) it would have necessarily meant World War III. There would have been plenty of Liberal Internationalists or Neoconservative Chickenhawks in Washington that would have only been too happy seeing a Berlin Wall at Toronto if that is what Canadian (((Commies))) wanted. Although I agreed with vigilant postwar containment of Communism, except proxy-wars, the "Containment Doctrine" espoused by George F. Kennan basically postulated that it was okay to fight Germany to Unconditional Surrender or even Genocide over Danzig or the Sudetenland (or whatever) in World War II because Hitler was an Evil dictator (i.e., anti-Semitic). But the Soviets on the other hand, they could be reasoned with, so signing treaties with them was Agreement not Appeasement. Of course, this premise is faulty. Plus, certain traitorous circles handed over nuclear weapons technology to the Soviets from the start, so there's that. As far as the war in Ukraine, it is an interesting dilemma, but the sooner the conflict is over with, the better. Based on some of the reporting in the mainstream news media, I think it is time for the United States to start testing nuclear weapons underground again, and especially conscripting the scions of the elite for military training as in the old days. I'd love to see Chickenhawks like Fox News' Sean Hannity on the business end of an entrenching tool. 
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Post by thegodfather on Mar 30, 2022 6:54:44 GMT
This video sums up the current situation perfectly:
The US’ grand strategic goal in Ukraine was to neutralize Russia’s nuclear second strike capabilities through the regional deployment of anti-missile systems and strike weapons in order to perpetually place Russia in a position of nuclear blackmail. Putin prevented a much more bloody war by intervening in Ukraine and the world should thank him for that.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 30, 2022 7:52:36 GMT
The question as to which side should White Nationalists support in the current Ukrainian war is a hot topic of debate right now. Nationalists and White Nationalists are divided over the conflict. My view is that I want what is best for White people, and what is best for the Ukrainian and Russian people, and for the soonest end to the conflict that can be worked out, with an agreement that both sides can live with. Over the weekend Traditional-Catholic (meaning that he rejects Vatican II and pretends to be fighting the Joos) Dr. E. Michael Jones debated Dr. Greg Johnson of Counter-Currents webzine. Both EMJ and GJ are weak on the Holocaust but not extremely so. GJ is a "Big Tent" White Nationalist meaning that he doesn't reject most civic nationalists, Holocaust Deniers, or Nazis. I am not an admirer of E. Michael Jones, anti-Semite or not. I think he is faking it ─ giving some lip service to Revisionists and White Nationalists. EMJ literally sees no difference besides color between a (White) Irishman and a Negro as long as they both have taken the Latin Rite sacraments. He criticizes Jews only because they are the enemy of Christ. I missed the second part of the debate and will have to finish it later, but it is available at Odysee: After the debate, Greg Johnson published an article on Counter-Currents that I think is well worth reading. EMJ endlessly repeats the charge that supporting Ukrainian nationalists might as well be advocating for the "Gay Disco" (referring to the 2016 terrorist attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida by a Jihadi) and this argument is pretty weak. Greg Johnson says in the debate that he does NOT support promoting LGBTQ. Dr. E. Michael Jones is famous for strawmanning and baldly mischaracterizing his opponent's positions in debates. So I am leaning slightly towards Dr. Johnson in this matter of supporting the self-determination of the Ukrainian people. However, I am extremely skeptical of the idea of supporting them materially rather than just morally, and certainly not militarily. The current Ukrainian regime is (((Kosher))) and therefore not laudable. The fact that the Usual Suspects in Washington and the EU are calling for war against Russia is extremely suspect. I am skeptical of NATO and think that it mostly ended its usefulness when the Soviet Union broke apart. I also don't think it is a good idea expanding NATO into former Soviet Union territories with the exception of the Baltic states and Moldova. Belarus does not want to join NATO and is loyal to Moscow. However, Johnson makes a good point that had Ukraine joined NATO, Putin could not have invaded. The point of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was Article 5, that an attack upon one is an attack upon all. This is a very good deterrent, especially since it is tipped with nuclear weapons. On the other hand, I think centuries-old Russian claims to a warm-water port and the Sevastopol naval base are legitimate. And I don't agree with the argument in some circles that had the Warsaw Pact expanded to Canada (as part of supposed Canadian self-determination) it would have necessarily meant World War III. There would have been plenty of Liberal Internationalists or Neoconservative Chickenhawks in Washington that would have only been too happy seeing a Berlin Wall at Toronto if that is what Canadian (((Commies))) wanted. Although I agreed with vigilant postwar containment of Communism, although not proxy-wars, the "Containment Doctrine" espoused by George F. Kennan basically postulated that it was okay to fight Germany to Unconditional Surrender or even Genocide over Danzig or the Sudetenland in World War II because Hitler was an Evil dictator (i.e., anti-Semitic). But the Soviets on the other hand, they could be reasoned with, so signing treaties with them was Agreement not Appeasement. Of course, this premise is faulty. Plus, certain traitorous circles handed over nuclear weapons technology to the Soviets, so there's that. As far as the war in Ukraine, it is an interesting dilemma, but the sooner the conflict is over with, the better. Based on some of the reporting in the mainstream news media, I think it is time for the United States to start testing nuclear weapons underground again, and especially conscripting the scions of the elite for military training as in the old days. I'd love to see Chickenhawks like Fox News' Sean Hannity on the business end of an entrenching tool.  TRS are pretty much behind Russia and are exposing Ukraine's modern history of gay ops. Strike and Mike go into some detail about lately in ep.207
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