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Post by Nessie on Apr 8, 2022 17:11:12 GMT
Certain posters on the forum do not want an open, free discussion. This thread is an open, free discussion (just stay on topic) as to how the hoax deniers allege happen, whereby there were no mass gassings of c2.5 million people and disposal of the dead, actually works.
How has it been possible to get
- the millions of Jews sent to the AR camps and A-B kremas to lie by omission and keep quiet about what did happen inside those places - Nazis to confess to gassings that never happened and none to say what did happen - fake the gassing sites
- historians to support the gassing narrative - journalists to support the gassing narrative - governments to support the gassing narrative
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 8, 2022 20:53:49 GMT
Nessie touts the standard but unproven lies about Jews being steamed/gassed/shot/asphyxiated at "death camps". He ignores the facts that the death toll at A-B shrank from 4 million to 1.5 million, the death toll at Majdanek went from 1.5 million to 42,000 and the toll for Treblinka alone dropped from 3.5 million to ~850,000. Then the marsupial escapades or show trials required the Germans to "confess" to mass murder in exchange for light sentences or in a few cases, not guilty verdicts. An orchestrated windup for the "main event" in the 70s of, wait for it...THE HOLOCAUST!
Not all historians and academics agree that the holyhoax actually took place as advertised. The number who keep their actual opinion of the holyhoax secret for fear of Jew retributions are unknown. Why is it illegal in multiple countries to investigate the holyhoax? All other historical events are fair game for investigation and revision but not the holyhoax. The US, Britain, Germany et al. all have significant Jew influence in their governing bodies. Some say that the Jews control those countries.
ALL MSM (mainstream media) in the US is owned or controlled by Jews. That is an effing fact, Nessie, not a "conspiracy theory" and you say in wide-eyed wonder, "journalists support the gassing narrative". Plenty of journalists in the alt-media DON'T support the holyhoax.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 9, 2022 8:01:52 GMT
Nessie touts the standard but unproven lies about Jews being steamed/gassed/shot/asphyxiated at "death camps". He ignores the facts that the death toll at A-B shrank from 4 million to 1.5 million, the death toll at Majdanek went from 1.5 million to 42,000 and the toll for Treblinka alone dropped from 3.5 million to ~850,000. Which is evidence against the denial hoax. How were all those lawyers persuaded to go public and lie? Which again is evidence there is no denial hoax. It is not illegal to investigate the Holocaust. Which is batshit crazy conspiracy theorist drivel. Only idiots who think Jews run the world will fall for the conspiracy. |
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 9, 2022 8:31:02 GMT
Nessie wrote:
In which case you should have no problem telling me which US network, ABC, MSNBC, whatever isn't either owned or doesn't have a Jew CEO. After you do that you can convince me that the main federal reserve bank, Goldman, Sachs, isn't owned and run by Jews. Have at it.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 9, 2022 8:49:29 GMT
Nessie wrote: In which case you should have no problem telling me which US network, ABC, MSNBC, whatever isn't either owned or doesn't have a Jew CEO. After you do that you can convince me that the main federal reserve bank, Goldman, Sachs, isn't owned and run by Jews. Have at it. Even the Jewish owned media do not exclusively employ Jews and it is a nonsense, after decades of investigation, that it would be possible to maintain the gassing hoax, when there would be so much evidence of what happened instead. |
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 9, 2022 8:57:12 GMT
So, you can't find any gentile owned/run media. Gee, why is that, Nessie?
BTW, your gassing hoax hasn't been maintained. Lots of slippage there.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 9, 2022 16:26:54 GMT
So, you can't find any gentile owned/run media. Gee, why is that, Nessie?
The BBC and STV are not owned by Jews. None of the Scottish press is either. You claim slippage, but none of the denier claims have gained any credence, because most people can recognise arguments from incredulity and know such are not substitutes for evidence. Berg's diesel claim resulted in checks of the witness evidence, to find that those who actually saw and knew about the engine used, either said petrol, or did not say what fuel was used.
Berg's skin discolouration claim resulted in checks of the medical evidence, to find that cherry red skin is normally only visible with lividity hours after death.
Mattogno's various claims about how many bodies fit in a grave, how much wood is needed for pyres, how much coke was needed for the Kremas, are pure argument from incredulity. Rudolf's claims about how much cyanide residue would be left after mass gassings are theoretical and are contradicted by the evidence of what actually happened.
Butz's claims about the Kremas being air raid shelters are not backed by any evidence, except for Krema I, which was converted to an air raid shelter.
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 9, 2022 19:02:36 GMT
Nessie wrote:
I asked you to name a U.S. network that isn't owned/controlled by Jews. You weasel dodge that by claiming that the BBC and Scottish media aren't owned by Jews.
Nessie continues on with his fantasies as to why people believe such bizarre claims as the electric masturbation machine. People can die from 30-40% carboxyhemoglobin but the pink/red discoloration of the cadavers doesn't usually take place at under a concentration of 60% carboxyhemoglobin. Nessie's claim for the discoloration of the cadavers by the alleged eyewitnesses is just a plain lie. Hey, ya' do what ya' gotta' do.
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Post by Hรผntinger on Apr 9, 2022 19:09:56 GMT
Rudolf's claims about how much cyanide residue would be left after mass gassings are theoretical and are contradicted by the evidence of what actually happened. Rudolf gave a thorough scientific understanding of the impossibility of that event or events happening; it is not possible to state that this scientific knowledge is negated by an evidence of supposed fact. It is this supposed fact that is being put under scientific scrutiny and found to be impossible. It is the subject under discussion so it is not possible to put it as some sort of evidence to support its self. This is circular reasoning at its best. Nessie is using the argument: The evidence of gassing using Zb cannot be contracticed because there is evidence it happened. |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 10, 2022 8:30:43 GMT
Nessie wrote: I asked you to name a U.S. network that isn't owned/controlled by Jews. You weasel dodge that by claiming that the BBC and Scottish media aren't owned by Jews. I could not be bothered to look and find the answer for you. You have not produced any evidence to prove that the entire US media network is owned and controlled by Jews, which I find very hard to believe, considering what little I have seen of the far right broadcasting using modern media platforms. You claimed "slippage" but I have given you multiple examples of denier claims that have gained no credibility in the main stream. So, where is the slippage? |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 10, 2022 8:32:47 GMT
Rudolf's claims about how much cyanide residue would be left after mass gassings are theoretical and are contradicted by the evidence of what actually happened. Rudolf gave a thorough scientific understanding of the impossibility of that event or events happening; it is not possible to state that this scientific knowledge is negated by an evidence of supposed fact. It is this supposed fact that is being put under scientific scrutiny and found to be impossible. It is the subject under discussion so it is not possible to put it as some sort of evidence to support its self. This is circular reasoning at its best. Nessie is using the argument: The evidence of gassing using Zb cannot be contracticed because there is evidence it happened.The issue was the claim of the gassing narrative is falling apart, as the supposed hoax is revealed. But, I have listed various examples of denial claims that have gained no traction amongst historians, the media or even the public, so how is the hoax being revealed? |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 13, 2022 18:51:57 GMT
Been-there is unhappy his claims about mass deception are being challenged as incorrect rodoh.info/post/6457/threadrodoh.info/post/6521/threadPiles of shoes are not proof of gassings, they are supporting evidence, hence there is no deception going on. The Nazis not showing the Red Cross around A-B and especially the Kremas, is evidence they were trying to hide their criminal activities. |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 14, 2022 8:44:40 GMT
Regarding cooperation between governments, the present war in Ukraine shows how that is impossible. The Russians are accusing Ukraine of Nazification. Many Ukrainians were SS who worked at the death camps. Now is very much the time for Ukrainians to come forward and produce evidence that there were no death camps where mass gassing took place. Now is the time for them to blow the hoax and prove the Nazis were not evil mass gassing killers and in fact, they were trying to protect Europe from evil Russian dictators.
If there was a hoax, there is no reason why Russia and Ukraine would presently cooperate to maintain it.
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Post by mrolonzo on Apr 18, 2022 19:48:33 GMT
Regarding cooperation between governments, the present war in Ukraine shows how that is impossible. The Russians are accusing Ukraine of Nazification. Many Ukrainians were SS who worked at the death camps. Now is very much the time for Ukrainians to come forward and produce evidence that there were no death camps where mass gassing took place. Now is the time for them to blow the hoax and prove the Nazis were not evil mass gassing killers and in fact, they were trying to protect Europe from evil Russian dictators. If there was a hoax, there is no reason why Russia and Ukraine would presently cooperate to maintain it. There is every reason, nazis do not run the Ukraine government. |
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