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Post by mrolonzo on Apr 5, 2022 8:50:49 GMT
The Soviets bombed the crap out of the place immediately; I am sure these will create excellent pits. linkThough interestingly I did not realize that TII has been "Liberated" as the JHC states. The Soviet bombing was part of the grave robbing, which is why the 1945 and 2014 site examinations did not find neatly outlined disturbed ground surrounded by undisturbed ground.
It does not explain why the Nazis had excavators inside the camp digging huge pits.
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Post by Ulios on Apr 5, 2022 8:59:31 GMT
The Soviet bombing was part of the grave robbing, which is why the 1945 and 2014 site examinations did not find neatly outlined disturbed ground surrounded by undisturbed ground. More made up stuff from this one. Where is your supporting documents etc that the Soviets bombed the hell out of this area for grave robbing. |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 11:35:08 GMT
The Soviet bombing was part of the grave robbing, which is why the 1945 and 2014 site examinations did not find neatly outlined disturbed ground surrounded by undisturbed ground. More made up stuff from this one. Where is your supporting documents etc that the Soviets bombed the hell out of this area for grave robbing. Read Nazgul above.
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 11:36:08 GMT
The Soviet bombing was part of the grave robbing, which is why the 1945 and 2014 site examinations did not find neatly outlined disturbed ground surrounded by undisturbed ground.
It does not explain why the Nazis had excavators inside the camp digging huge pits.
What excavators? The excavators multiple witnesses speak to having been seen inside the camp and Kurt Franz photographed as the camp was being dismantled and closed down. |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 11:37:07 GMT
As is standard for the deniers here, awkward questions are dodged. No reasonable, evidenced cause of the large pits dug by the Nazis has been provided.
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 5, 2022 11:44:53 GMT
Nessie wrote:
Do you mean that the draglines didn't dig the graves? Are we back to the mystery machine for that chore?
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 11:50:25 GMT
Nessie wrote: Do you mean that the draglines didn't dig the graves? Are we back to the mystery machine for that chore? We do not for sure what excavator dug the graves. It could have been the dragline, it could have been another excavator, or it could have been different excavators were used.
Why did the Nazis dig such large pits at TII?
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Post by mrolonzo on Apr 5, 2022 11:59:27 GMT
The excavators multiple witnesses speak to having been seen inside the camp and Kurt Franz photographed as the camp was being dismantled and closed down. You mean the dragline machines ? Those fit the bill of being photographed right? |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 12:09:24 GMT
The excavators multiple witnesses speak to having been seen inside the camp and Kurt Franz photographed as the camp was being dismantled and closed down. You mean the dragline machines ? Those fit the bill of being photographed right? Yes.
Why did the Nazis dig so many pits inside TII?
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Post by mrolonzo on Apr 5, 2022 12:38:17 GMT
You mean the dragline machines ? Those fit the bill of being photographed right? Yes.
Why did the Nazis dig so many pits inside TII?
Right so the draglines were the excavators most likely. Different rubbish pits, remains of buildings, some dead people or some moved earth and foilage. |
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 5, 2022 12:46:00 GMT
Nessie wrote:
We don't know for sure if the Germans dug any pits at Treblinka. "What if" the holes were made by bombs or other ordnance? That "coulda" been the explanations for the irregularly shaped holes that CS-C claimed to have located. Then we have Lukaszkiewcz's excavations.
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Post by mrolonzo on Apr 5, 2022 12:48:20 GMT
Nessie wrote: We don't know for sure if the Germans dug any pits at Treblinka. "What if" the holes were made by bombs or other ordnance? That "coulda" been the explanations for the irregularly shaped holes that CS-C claimed to have located. Then we have Lukaszkiewcz's excavations. Indeed at Belzec the moved earth below the surface is all around the camp and could well be the prior gypsy camp. So its a similar picture with all the AR camps. |
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 12:49:22 GMT
Yes.
Why did the Nazis dig so many pits inside TII?
Right so the draglines were the excavators most likely. Different rubbish pits, remains of buildings, some dead people or some moved earth and foilage. Show me your evidence. Here is the list of pits found by geophysics, page 472 to 480
What does each pit contain? Why was it dug?
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Post by Nessie on Apr 5, 2022 12:52:11 GMT
Nessie wrote: We don't know for sure if the Germans dug any pits at Treblinka. "What if" the holes were made by bombs or other ordnance? That "coulda" been the explanations for the irregularly shaped holes that CS-C claimed to have located. Then we have Lukaszkiewcz's excavations. The aerial photo of 1944 shows that there had been digging at TII prior to the arrival of the Soviets. The Kurt Franz photos show excavators at TII when the Nazis were there in 1943. Multiple witnesses speak to the use of excavators at the camp when it was open 1952-3.
The Soviet use of explosives and Luckaskiewicz's excavations come later, in 1945.
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Post by Turnagain on Apr 5, 2022 13:40:56 GMT
Let's see your aerial photographs that prove beyond any doubt that rectangular graves as described by the alleged eyewitnesses existed at Treblinka. You've claimed that the M&H draglines were only used to tidy up the grounds after the camp had been razed. Is that little fable no longer operable?
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