Why did the Nazis dig so many pits at TII?

You are lying again, as you lie to yourself that there is not much evidence of the Nazis digging large pits at the AR camps;

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You are lying again. One of the TII pits was described as;

"... with a ramp at the west end and a vertical edge to the east"

Various signs showed cut edges. Any irregularity would be primarily due to all the grave robbing that happened, which included the use of explosives, plus the Nazis digging back into the graves to get at the bodies.



You are lying again. Aerial photos from 1944 evidence the Nazis were responsible for the dug over ground, which added to all the witness evidence and evidence of use of excavators at the AE camps proves it was the Nazis.



Evidence proves the Nazis dug large pits inside TII and yet again you lie by omission as you miss out the huge memorial at TII that covers most of the area where the main mass graves were located.

You are lying and weasel dodging to avoid explaining why the Nazis excavated large pits at TII.

From "HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY: ARCHAEOLOGICAL APPROACHES TO LANDSCAPES OF NAZI GENOCIDE AND PERSECUTION"

etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/3531/1/SturdyColls12PhD.pdf

"The use of electrical imaging in conjunction with resistance and GPR survey allowed
the construction of a large pit (26m x 17m) to be determined (G1; Figure 4.31).
Although the depth of this feature could not be determined, as it was greater than the
three metre range of the electrical imaging and four metre range of the GPR, it was
demonstrated that this feature had a ramp at the west end and a vertical edge to the
east. This feature is also visible from the air and on the ground as an area of defined
vegetation (Plate 4.30)"

G1 is in the lazarette section of the camp, the large yellow patch below the "Road to Heaven" above.



I don't know.



I don't understand the first question and the second is because only side is considered straight.



I don't understand that either, maybe it is just the way the marks were put onto the images, as seen in "Figure 4.29. Plan of features consistent with burials and disposal pits recorded during geophysical survey at Treblinka II."



The 1945 ground photos show the whole area had been dug over by grave robbers and the 1945 survey excavations were additional digging of what had already been dug. Between grave robbing, the survey excavations and the ordnance used, it is hardly surprising that there appear to be no neatly, precisely outlined rectangular graves.



There are clear rectangular outlines in the Lazarette area of the camp, that had mass graves in it.



She does, look at the BBC images, which are the clearest.



That is the part we will never agree on, I can clearly see various GPR scans in here thesis. I do not understand why you cannot see them. Chapter "1.3.3. GPR Survey" explains the use of GPR.

She locates the GPR survey, "Figure 4.10. Locations of the GPR survey area at Treblinka I" and "Plans showing the locations of the resistance and GPR grids within these areas are shown in Figures 4.14 and 4.15.", "A total of 14,400m² was surveyed using the GPR. A parallel traverse method was used."

The GPR scans are shown through out the thesis;

Figure 4.32. GPR time slices of feature G44 (shown in red) identified at Treblinka II in
the area of the former Death Camp
Figure 4.34. A GPR image plot of features G50-54 identified at Treblinka II in the area
of the former Death Camp
Figure 4.35. A GPR profile showing one of the cut edges of feature G38, identified at
Treblinka II in the area of the former Death Camp
GPR surveys (Figure 4.19-4.20)

This is the explanation of the feature G1;

"Having identified a large pit during the resistance survey (G1), further targeted investigation
of this feature was required. The location of the feature in question was determined from
the resistance data in relation to the grid system laid out across the site. The position of the
north, south, east and west extents of the feature were marked on the ground using pegs.
Three profile lines were surveyed on a roughly west-east alignment and four survey lines
along a south-north alignment. West to east the survey lines measured 35m, as it was
known that the feature itself measured 17m. This facilitated the survey of three twenty-
probe lines (Line 1 = 0-19m, Line 2 = 8-27m, Line 3 = 16-35m) which overlapped to ensure
the edges of the feature would be adequately represented and would lie at the centre of
two of the profiles The feature measured approximately 26m from north to south and,
subsequently, a line measuring 42m, comprising of four twenty-probe lines (Line 4 = 0-19m,
Line 5 = 8-27m, Line 6 = 16-35m, Line 7 = 23-42m) was established on this alignment. The
result was a cross section of survey lines through the feature which would reveal
information about its length, width, depth and construction. The locations of the survey lines
were recorded using the EDM, so facilitate their integration with the other survey data and
in order to locate them spatially. A plan showing the locations of the electrical imaging lines,
over feature G1, is shown below. A probe spacing of 1m was used for each survey line and
readings were taken by moving the cables at 1m, 2m, 3m, 4m, 5m and 6m spacing. Although
the optimum range of the electrical imaging is 20 ohms, given the sandy geology, the range
had to be set at 2000 ohms (TR Systems 2007)."



No one has said they are all under the memorial.



She does say they are most likely graves, or that they are probable graves.



The estimated sizes are larger than the found sizes. Considering witnesses are not great at estimating size, that is hardly surprising.



I have not said they have totally obliterated the outlines. I have said they actions explain why few neat, complete outlines are left.



She found large areas of the camp were excavated and you run from explaining why.

Some digging would reasonable for rubbish disposal. But the scale of digging at TII is far more than can be explained by that.



Theoretically yes, but it is not evidenced and there is no reason why local Poles would dig such large pits there.

Based on what evidence?



There is pre gold rush evidence of the use of excavators and large pits at TII. The best and only evidenced explanation is mass graves.

Nessie wrote:

CS-C shows ONE plate of a GPR scan. All others are her interpretations, "slices" of GPR scans. What can't you understand about that? She shows some of her "results" from GPR but except for one plate of a GPR scan, nada. You of course take everything she says as gospel truth; holy writ, divinely inspired. I think she's a con artist, a charlatan and I don't trust her any further than I can spit a rat. For the most part she just chants the official narrative of Treblinka with extensive quotes from Auerbach, Glazar, Krzepicki and other such holyhoax luminaries. If you know where in her theses that she shows actual GPR scans other than figure 4.35 then post their location in the theses.

Nessie wrote:

Photos in print medium are commonly referred to as "plates". "Figure" if you prefer. I don't claim to be an expert at interpreting GPR returns. There is a continuous record made by GPR. Why is CS-C hiding all of those scans except for one? Why doesn't she show colorized 3-D images from the scans? There is more than a hint of chicanery about her so-called investigation yet you eat it up with a spoon.

She got all emotional over some bones dug up by a Christian cemetery. There are no photos taken in situ of the tiles allegedly found at the site. All pits she allegedly discovered are called "probable graves". You, of course, take them as actual 100% proven graves. She said that research at Treblinka was to be ongoing and that she "hoped" return there. I recall that to be an effort to confirm the actual location of the mass graves but I can't locate a quote from her saying that so let it go. She did say that research was ongoing and that she "hoped" to return. Right, Treblinka served it's purpose as a theses subject and adios Treblinka.