Nazi Granny

A sort of world that has become the thing it claims to be against.
One that bans books, criminalises rational thinking of dissenting views, censors alternative understandings, forbids investigation of its enforced narrative and ideology, and impisons and tortures people for thought crimes.
A world whose hypocrisy is collossal, yet is denied.

Yes. His views seem to be clearly driven by irrational hatred and prejudice. Something he will not consider and is in denial of. As his petty bickering and immature comments for a month with Goody67 demonstrated. 

Thanks for sharing the video of Ursula Haverbeck being interviewed by the British filmakers. Though their ignorance and logical non sequiters were sad to see.

How they could possibly imagine that watching film of less than a hundred victims in striped uniform could be proof of a genocide of 6 million, to someone who had personally witnessed thousands of dead and dying victims of the war? That was a shocking indictment of the ignorance of the brainwashed post-war generations. It is as if they aren’t aware any other civilians were imprisoned, killed and died besides Jewish ones.

How they could believe that film of huge living accomodation of rows and rows of barracks areas in a concentration camp was proof of the exact opposite (an extermination camp) is sad to behold.

Like Jeff these people seem beyond reason. They just ’believe’. And everyone else must ’believe’ or be damned!

Demonstrating yet again that the H is a faith-based religion and appplying reason and logic to its credes is regarded as blasphemy that must be punished.

This appears off-topic.  Frankly most of your post is off-topic.


As for Goody, well, sadly, I misjudged his absolute love and fealty to a certain antisemitic racist.  A flippant comment by me led to accusations that I lied….which I showed him were all false.  A pity. But even I have limits to forgiveness so Goody is now on permanent ignore.

Jeff(numbers) wrote:
Well, that's part of the accepted reasons for the war and you DID say that Hitler "picked fights" with the three most heavily industrialized countries in the world. Care to explain why Poland declared war on Germany before the Polish invasion? Then why England and France both declared war on Germany for that invasion but didn't declare war on the Soviets for that same transgression?

The US had given orders to the navy to engage German U-boats long before war was declared. Roosevelt provoked the Pearl Harbor attack with his order to sanction oil supplies to Japan knowing that Germany and Japan were allied. He even moved the aging battleships from San Diego to Pearl Harbor to present a more tempting target. That's known history so why do you deny it, Jeff?

Britain and France fueled Poland's intransigence over not allowing Germany access to their province of East Prussia by declaring that they would defend Poland's borders. They didn't. Poland was just their casus belli. Poland declared war on Germany the day before the German invasion.

Hitler broke his agreement with the Soviets by invading Poland so the Soviets retaliated by invading...Poland. Britain and France declared war on Germany because they had a treaty with Poland to defend Poland's borders but the Soviets invaded Poland in retaliation for Germany invading Poland? Ever hear of the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact, Jeff? Well, I suppose not.

Jeff wrote:

Britain and France honored their treaty obligations to Poland which was the righteous thing to do. Germany was allied with Japan but it was stupid and "made absolutely no sense" for Hitler to honor his treaty with Japan. I'll just leave that there so everyone can see Jeff's hypocrisy.

Yes, this is off topic and way over your head, Jeff.

In Germany, a troubling 70% are in favor of limiting free speech. That country will jail those who engage in revisionist history involving WWII.
Even debate on the Holocaust is considered taboo. In fact, it is illegal in Germany to deny or even downplay the Holocaust. The term deny is curious given that no leading revisionist on the topic actually denies atrocities or actions against Jews and others.

Apparently, “downplay” is double-speak for revisionism. Watch this interview with Ursula Haverbeck closely, as if you were on the jury. Nowhere does Haverbeck deny that crimes or atrocities were committed against Jews (and others), nor does she refuse to accept that they were rounded up or persecuted. Rather, she speaks mostly about the nature, methods and the numbers, which is deemed “revisionism.”

www.bitchute.com/video/k7A4lNLz2IrX/

The following is an excerpt from the German law, and what a broad and sweeping law it is. In essence, it demands no one disturb the public peace, ruffle feathers or challenge a history that has been deemed set in stone or static.

(3) Whoever publicly or in a meeting approves of, denies or renders harmless an act committed under the rule of National Socialism of the type indicated in Section 220a subsection (1), in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine.

Please, watch Haverbeck being interviewed for yourself. See if you can identify her so-called offensive words that “might disturb the public peace.” In fact, Haverbeck was remarkably well composed and was relatively careful in her word choice.
Despite the news coverage on her imprisonment, I certainly didn’t hear her “approve of” atrocities or claim they didn’t happen.
Do you hear her “rendering harmless” acts committed under the rule of National Socialism? 

She did go into the rarely discussed — but I think much-needed — topic of the mass murder (Hellstorm) of German civilians and POWs as the war wound down and after the defeat of Germany. Basically, she is “guilty” of processing things outside of the box and not functioning under prescribed terms. Her “revisionism” only involves researching and questioning the size and degree of atrocities against Jews and the aspects of the Hellstorm.

She did suggest that truth or history on these topic has been “distorted.” She uses the term “Das Groste Problem” to define this distortion. This is problematic in her eyes because this historical distortion has been used as an agenda to kowtow Germany and promote Zionist power.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see “The Great Problem” train of thought as a jailable crime. I don’t see being an aggressive revisionist as being a jailable crime either. Nor is hurting someone’s feelings a jailable offense. Any sensible observer would say that ALL history has been distorted to one degree or another and should be subjected to frequent revision, review and question. Nothing should be set in stone. 

...We find the notion of a court approved version of events that one could lose their liberty over beyond Orwellian. The “judge” would not permit testimony from a revisionist historian in court. It is fundamental that there should be open discussion, even of controversial views, without threat of prosecution. But if the authorities are willing to make an example out of an 89-year-old woman, well, what more is there to say.

Mind-blowing comments in Joseph Goebbels’ diaries
I don’t claim to have the answers. But something popped up while reading through the Goebbels Diaries that blew my mind. In the diary there is a reference to Hungary. And it looks like Goebbels the insider and one of Hitler’s closest confidants thinks something completely different is going on. According to the official narrative the deportation of the Hungarian Jews began on April 29, 1944 when a train load of Jews were sent to Birkenau. In ten short weeks 400,000 were allegedly gassed there.

Did Goebbels not get the word of such a major operation? Curious comments indeed. Some claim Goebbels was lying to avoid incrimination. But Goebbels bluntly said plenty in his diaries to incriminate himself, and had no intention of ever appearing as a defendant before a tribunal.
The Jewish Telegraph Agency has numerous stories of evacuations as the eastern front advanced.
See: [Jewish News Archive, 7/8-1941; 45,000 Bukovina Jews Evacuated to Soviet Interior] and [Jewish News Archive 2/18/1942, Uzbekistan Becomes New Home for Hundreds of Thousands of Evacuated Jews]



 Apparently Goebbels didn’t have any idea about the scale of any killing operations against Jews either.  
We do find it deeply disturbing that Haverbeck is to be imprisoned at all. And what of those who simply defend free speech and the right of Haverbeck to conduct this interview without prosecution and jail time? Are they, too, going to be subjected via some contorted circular logic leading to derision, ridicule or even prosecution?

www.winterwatch.net/2018/05/thought-crimes-part-i-the-disturbing-case-of-imprisoned-revisionist-ursula-haverbeck/

Most people are thrown into Prison by the cops.