Nazi Granny

No, it’s just the standard been-there BS where you pose something or ask a close ended question. I will answer how I choose and the manner of my choosing. Period. Your acceptance is not required. I answered in a clear fashion. You can accept it or not.

I’ve deleted the irrelevant twaddle and continued on with the relevant part.



You are under the mistaken impression that I haven’t read denier authors and the stuff they post on-line. Calling a gas chamber an air raid shelter is simply false if there is nothing to back it up. It’s a guess in a silly attempt to change history so to not acknowledge the truth. So when I say deniers calling a gas chamber an air raid shelter a guess then that’s not mind reading, that’s reading and comprehending what they said.


A cursory glance shows me this is a been-there rant. If he wishes a discussion about this he can remove the ranting and try again.

Agreed to the one (off topic comments but I’m not the only one off-topic) but I’ll disagree with political prisoner. She is simply in violation of German law.

LOL! Suuuuure, Jeffy, Hoess taught himself perfect English while a prisoner 20 years previously so that it became his preferred language. Of course he used English to admit his guilt of mass murder. Everyone believes that.

Jeff wrote:


Curious that he used a number from Eichmann when he actually knew the exact number of victims at A-B that were killed there during his tenure as commandant. Tell us, Jeff, why did he do that?

Of course Hoess's confession wasn't a cornerstone of the holyhoax fable. Just a minor detail that went almost unnoticed amongst all the other "evidence". It wasn't considered "sensational" even by the marsupial escapades at Nuremberg. The documents from the Polish underground, the steam chambers of Treblinka and so on were considered to be much more damning of the Germans.

Jeff claims that Hoess knew the correct number of gassing victims at A-B but preferred to testify what Eichmann told him. He then disputed that number but Jeff doesn't say when or what the actual numbers were. Neither does Jeff explain why Hoess, who both spoke and wrote perfect English was tortured for at least three days to obtain that confession. Why was that necessary, Jeff, and why was a confession made under duress allowed as evidence at the Nuremberg marsupial escapades?

Only a moron would accept Hoess's "confession" as being a true account but then I am dealing with Jeffy (numbers).

I doubt anyone has not noticed there is a trial ongoing between two ‘celebrities’ fighting each other to protect their reputations.
The case is about domestic physical abuse. And both are accusing the other of it.

Because they are ‘celebrities’ the msm are giving it prominent, day-by-day 

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One aspect of the trial that I doubt many will give much thought to, I believe exposes the lies and denial of Jeff-numbers in his continued hate-motivated approval of the persecution of Ursula Haverbeck for comments she made 4 and 6 years ago.

Persistent persecution, which Jeff dishonestly asserts is due to her ’persistent’ law-breaking. 

Here is what I see as the relevant aspect in the two trials to Jeff’s dishonest argument and denial.
Both the celebrity actors have discussed openly their own and each others ILLEGAL drug habits of THE PAST!!! 

Question: So why weren’t they both arrested and charged for illegal drug possession! 
Answer: Er, could it be because it happened in the past? Erm, maybe 4 and 6 years ago?

Racist, anti-German, hate-motivated, person-in-denial: ’No. The law says no possession of illegal drugs. So if the state decides to charge them it IS because they are persisting in breaking US Law.

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First, you should be grateful that I taught you something that you didn’t know.
Second, I didn’t say anything about “perfect” or “preferred.” Work on your reading comprehension, there’s a good fellow.

Oh, Turnagain? Insults and related Turnagain garbage will simply be deleted.



Who knows? Unlike been-there I don’t claim to be a mind reader. If I had a guess I assume it was an attempt to shift blame to someone conveniently absent at the time.



Right, now you are learning. His confession is not a cornerstone to the history of the Holocaust. It’s a piece but not the only piece.



The IMT wasn’t based around the Holocaust nor was it a Holocaust trial. It was a trial of the highest members of the Nazi government the Allies had in custody at the time. Sure it was brought up and evidence provided. But it was not centered around it.



I’ve forgotten how much you struggle with the basics and how you struggle with reading comprehension.

The IMT and subsequent trials used a variety of evidence, from testimony to German documents. Evidence is a piece of the puzzle.
Jackson actually preferred that the IMT rely mostly on German documents, he thought documents were more reliable.




Oh, yeah, again, I have to walk you through the basics. I’m sorry, Turnagain, I think the people I talk with have at least basic knowledge but I realize with you I need to be a bit more specific.

Hoess wrote his memoirs while imprisoned in Poland awaiting his execution so, sometime in the Spring of 1947.

This is what Hoess wrote:



I forgot that Hoess mentioned he had trouble remembering, mea culpa. He gave that number based upon what he was told by Eichmann which does contradict what he testified to at the IMT. What is interesting is that the number he gave at the IMT and his memoir contradict the number the Soviets gave.



I never said his English was “perfect.” You made that up in your head.




Only a moron would babble about a confession without considering Hoess’s memoirs plus what other SS personnel said about Auschwitz. Only a moron would solely rely on a confession without considering what Hoess said actually lined up with what documents and other testimony later said.

Gentlemen please keep 'the lounge" for friendly conversation, no animosity please. Discussion of Auschwitz etc can be discussed elsewhere more appropriate. Keep this space reserved for the lady under discussion.