Where did they go?

Nessie wrote:

You have no idea about how many Jews left the AR camps. You have testimony from a few witnesses but don't know how many actually left the camps or how they left. Pretending that 20 witnesses at Treblinka speak for all ~1.25 million Jews who went through Belzec, Sobobor and Treblinka is pure bullshit.

Neither do you have any evidence that the Jews were gassed/asphyxiated/steamed, buried, exhumed, cremated and reburied. You claim that you do and offer your puerile excuses for the lies of the alleged eyewitnesses but that's NOT evidence. It's nothing but made up horse frocky.

You just flat lie. I've never claimed to have evidence of "regular" mass transports out of T-II. I've said that there were some mass transports and there "coulda" been more. Curious how "coulda shoulda" is "evidence" when it's used to support the hoaxster's version of the holyhoax but just speculation or an opinion when used by revisionists. Take your two-faced hypocrisy and sell it down the street, Nessie.

Nazgul wrote:

Yep, it's same-o same-o with Nessie. Nessie says, "I have evidence". Me (tiredly), "No you don't". Rinse and repeat in a thousand different ways and a thousand different times. Nessie shrieks, "Where did they goooooooo?" and so on ad infinitum.

That is a lie. I have shown you evidence of large numbers of empty trains leaving TII and that the vast majority of the people sent to the camp were gassed.



Correct, your claim that 20 or so people who say they left TII speak for all of the people sent to TII is bullshit.



The only person you are fooling, by repeating your claim that I do not have any evidence, is you.



You have repeatedly claimed that 20 or so people is evidence TII is a transit camp. You know that is bullshit. You have just admitted they do not speak to what happened to everyone else.



The difference is that I use a "coulda" to fill in an unknown, where there is no evidence to show what happened. For example, the Nazis "coulda" fitted a vent to the gas chambers to deal with pressure. No witness makes any definitive mention of a vent. No plans have been left. So there is an evidential gap.

Your "coulda" is contrary to other evidence, since there is evidence the vast majority were gassed, so of course they could not have left on unknown, unevidenced, magical, mystery mass transports that would have left evidence if they had happened. There is no evidential gap.

Zabecki worked at Treblinka train station and along with other polish rail workers, saw the trains. He is an eyewitness to full trains arriving and most trains leaving empty.



Lie. The ghetto train records evidence full trains were sent to TII as the ghettos emptied. Since the ghetto were being emptied, it stands to reason those timetabled trains returned empty. The Warsaw record specifically states those trains returned empty. Warsaw alone accounts for about a third of trains and people sent to TII.



If they do not speak to the other people, then 20 out of c850,0000 means 0.002% of people left TII. That is evidence it was a death camp, not a transit camp.



You are lying when you say I have no evidence. You discuss that evidence, the eyewitnesses, the archaeology, the documents. It is you who has no evidence.

Why?

Zabecki over estimated how many people had arrived at TII and we know how he made his mistake.



You are lying again. The prime source of evidence as to how many people arrived at TII is from Nazi documents. The Nazis even provided a very exact figure for arrivals, 713,555 by the end of 1942. The ghetto train records corroborate that figure, as does the 1943 Korherr Report and all that evidence, plus other documents, prove that c850,000 were sent to TII by the time it had closed in 1943.

The Warsaw train record specifically states that trains left TII empty to go back to Warsaw, so that is c30% of trains and c30% of people sent to TII, whereby the trains left without the people. Since other ghettos were also emptying to TII and records show, like Warsaw, those trains returned to their origin, they also returned empty.

It is logical to say that if c850,000 arrive and at most 9500 leave, then something happened to the rest inside the camp. Only denier lack of logic does not understand that.