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Post by Nessie on Mar 23, 2022 11:27:36 GMT
It is the denier claim that the c2.5 million evidenced to have been gassed were not gassed. You asked "Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere?". If they were not gassed by the Nazis, by the end of 1944, then where were all those people by the end of 1944? If one cant even specify who you're talking about how can anyone support the claim of mass murder? Yet again, I am referring to the c2.5 million Jews sent to the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 when Chelmno opened and the autumn of 1944 when the last gassings took place at A-B, who revisionists say were not gassed.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 23, 2022 12:07:55 GMT
If one cant even specify who you're talking about how can anyone support the claim of mass murder? Yet again, I am referring to the c2.5 million Jews sent to the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 when Chelmno opened and the autumn of 1944 when the last gassings took place at A-B, who revisionists say were not gassed. And yet again, I simply ask you to give names and addresses of these people who you demand that we accept as being murdered by impossible methods, and never found. Yet you refuse.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 24, 2022 11:20:54 GMT
Yet again, I am referring to the c2.5 million Jews sent to the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 when Chelmno opened and the autumn of 1944 when the last gassings took place at A-B, who revisionists say were not gassed. And yet again, I simply ask you to give names and addresses of these people who you demand that we accept as being murdered by impossible methods, and never found. Yet you refuse. Details of how to access Holocaust victim details here;
Many of the lists are not in English;
"Pages 1167-1414 include an alphabetical listing of 7,152 Jews deported from Macedonia to Treblinka. Citations are by family and by the town in which the individual lived before deportation. Entries include deportee's number, number of the family in the register and the number of the register in which the family is entered [n.b.: p. 1165 includes a notation that two sets of original registers listing the Macedonian Jews in the camp in Skopje immediately before their deportation to Treblinka were discovered. The register from which the information in this book was extracted is in German and, according to the author, provides more complete information on the deportees. The other, which is in Bulgarian, is handwritten."
How about you give me the names of all of those Jews who went to the AR camps, were not gassed and what camp they were liberated from?
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 25, 2022 9:51:27 GMT
And yet again, I simply ask you to give names and addresses of these people who you demand that we accept as being murdered by impossible methods, and never found. Yet you refuse. Details of how to access Holocaust victim details here;
Many of the lists are not in English;
"Pages 1167-1414 include an alphabetical listing of 7,152 Jews deported from Macedonia to Treblinka. Citations are by family and by the town in which the individual lived before deportation. Entries include deportee's number, number of the family in the register and the number of the register in which the family is entered [n.b.: p. 1165 includes a notation that two sets of original registers listing the Macedonian Jews in the camp in Skopje immediately before their deportation to Treblinka were discovered. The register from which the information in this book was extracted is in German and, according to the author, provides more complete information on the deportees. The other, which is in Bulgarian, is handwritten."
How about you give me the names of all of those Jews who went to the AR camps, were not gassed and what camp they were liberated from?
not even one name. point made.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 25, 2022 9:58:19 GMT
Details of how to access Holocaust victim details here;
Many of the lists are not in English;
"Pages 1167-1414 include an alphabetical listing of 7,152 Jews deported from Macedonia to Treblinka. Citations are by family and by the town in which the individual lived before deportation. Entries include deportee's number, number of the family in the register and the number of the register in which the family is entered [n.b.: p. 1165 includes a notation that two sets of original registers listing the Macedonian Jews in the camp in Skopje immediately before their deportation to Treblinka were discovered. The register from which the information in this book was extracted is in German and, according to the author, provides more complete information on the deportees. The other, which is in Bulgarian, is handwritten."
How about you give me the names of all of those Jews who went to the AR camps, were not gassed and what camp they were liberated from?
not even one name. point made. I have linked you to the names of 7,152 Jews.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 25, 2022 10:13:39 GMT
not even one name. point made. I have linked you to the names of 7,152 Jews. Not even one has been presented. Not one.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 25, 2022 14:45:48 GMT
I have linked you to the names of 7,152 Jews. Not even one has been presented. Not one. That I am not prepared to jump to attention and spend hours finding, copying and pasting names, is hardly surprising. You would refuse to list the names and addresses of everyone who survived being sent to the AR camps.
The difference is I can show you the lists of those who did not survive.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 25, 2022 15:48:30 GMT
Not even one has been presented. Not one. That I am not prepared to jump to attention and spend hours finding, copying and pasting names, is hardly surprising. You would refuse to list the names and addresses of everyone who survived being sent to the AR camps.
The difference is I can show you the lists of those who did not survive.
Ok show someone who did not survive, also include their previous address, the remains found and method of execution from anyone on the list. If you think thats too much on a forum then say so.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 25, 2022 15:57:56 GMT
That I am not prepared to jump to attention and spend hours finding, copying and pasting names, is hardly surprising. You would refuse to list the names and addresses of everyone who survived being sent to the AR camps.
The difference is I can show you the lists of those who did not survive.
Ok show someone who did not survive, also include their previous address, the remains found and method of execution from anyone on the list. If you think thats too much on a forum then say so. This thread is about where did they go?. You clearly have no evidence as to where those you say were not gassed at the AR camps, Chelmno or A-B kremas went. So you try to switch the subject.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 27, 2022 20:36:25 GMT
Ok show someone who did not survive, also include their previous address, the remains found and method of execution from anyone on the list. If you think thats too much on a forum then say so. This thread is about where did they go?. You clearly have no evidence as to where those you say were not gassed at the AR camps, Chelmno or A-B kremas went. So you try to switch the subject. Its true, the exact who's who of this issue is hard to fathom. Therefore I cannot say where they went. But since you cannot define who they are, that's fine by me.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 28, 2022 4:40:13 GMT
This thread is about where did they go?. You clearly have no evidence as to where those you say were not gassed at the AR camps, Chelmno or A-B kremas went. So you try to switch the subject. Its true, the exact who's who of this issue is hard to fathom. Therefore I cannot say where they went. But since you cannot define who they are, that's fine by me. I have defined who they are, for example, the Dutch Jews sent to Sobibor, the Hungarian Jews sent to A-B and the Warsaw Jews sent to TII. The documentary and evidential trail for the vast majority of those people ends at those places.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 28, 2022 10:32:58 GMT
Its true, the exact who's who of this issue is hard to fathom. Therefore I cannot say where they went. But since you cannot define who they are, that's fine by me. I have defined who they are, for example, the Dutch Jews sent to Sobibor, the Hungarian Jews sent to A-B and the Warsaw Jews sent to TII. The documentary and evidential trail for the vast majority of those people ends at those places. You have not defined who they are at all.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 28, 2022 10:41:05 GMT
I have defined who they are, for example, the Dutch Jews sent to Sobibor, the Hungarian Jews sent to A-B and the Warsaw Jews sent to TII. The documentary and evidential trail for the vast majority of those people ends at those places. You have not defined who they are at all. The 34,313 Dutch Jews sent to Sobibor from Westerbork over 19 transports in 1943;
What happened to them inside Sobibor and where did they go? Show any evidence you have to back up any claim you make.
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 28, 2022 10:43:37 GMT
You have not defined who they are at all. The 34,313 Dutch Jews sent to Sobibor from Westerbork over 19 transports in 1943;
What happened to them inside Sobibor and where did they go? Show any evidence you have to back up any claim you make.
Yes, and who these 34, 313 Dutch jews? Where did they live? What age were they? What were their names?
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Post by Nessie on Mar 28, 2022 10:57:22 GMT
The 34,313 Dutch Jews sent to Sobibor from Westerbork over 19 transports in 1943;
What happened to them inside Sobibor and where did they go? Show any evidence you have to back up any claim you make.
Yes, and who these 34, 313 Dutch jews? Where did they live? What age were they? What were their names? Details can be found on the Westerbork camp archives and at USHMM. For example;
Describe the process they went through inside Sobibor and where they went. Show any evidence you have to back up your claims.
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