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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 9:55:03 GMT
According to deniers, no one was gassed at the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 and autumn 1944, which means that by the autumn of 1944, there should have been c2.5 million Jews being accommodated somewhere. Where was that somewhere?
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 19, 2022 13:24:30 GMT
Gee, now we have an entire thread devoted to, "Where did they gooooooooooooo?". If we revisionists can't account for every Jew in Europe and where they went during the war then those Jews were gassed, cremated and disappeared forever and ever. Anyone who doesn't believe that is an antisemiticnarziwhowantstokillsixmillionJews. So there!
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 19, 2022 13:34:59 GMT
According to deniers, no one was gassed at the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 and autumn 1944, which means that by the autumn of 1944, there should have been c2.5 million Jews being accommodated somewhere. Where was that somewhere? Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere? |
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Post by Ulios on Mar 19, 2022 13:59:11 GMT
According to deniers, no one was gassed at the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 and autumn 1944, which means that by the autumn of 1944, there should have been c2.5 million Jews being accommodated somewhere. Where was that somewhere? Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere? He is stuck on gassing with no interest in the real misery that people felt in the Belarus camps. He accepts Korherrs figures for some reason but rejects the statement of "transiting through the camps". He wants people to be murdered. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 16:16:12 GMT
Gee, now we have an entire thread devoted to, "Where did they gooooooooooooo?". If we revisionists can't account for every Jew in Europe and where they went during the war then those Jews were gassed, cremated and disappeared forever and ever. Anyone who doesn't believe that is an antisemiticnarziwhowantstokillsixmillionJews. So there! You don't need to account for everyone. If you claim hundreds of thousands were not killed at TII, you do need to account for hundreds of thousands, not just the few thousand sent to labour camps in Poland and the single figure number of mass transports you claim left TII, which you cannot prove did leave the camp. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 16:17:02 GMT
According to deniers, no one was gassed at the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 and autumn 1944, which means that by the autumn of 1944, there should have been c2.5 million Jews being accommodated somewhere. Where was that somewhere? Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere? If they were not gassed by the Nazis, then they were transported and accommodated elsewhere by the Nazis. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 19, 2022 18:52:45 GMT
Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere? If they were not gassed by the Nazis, then they were transported and accommodated elsewhere by the Nazis. Ok, exactly who are you talking about? |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 20, 2022 10:21:18 GMT
If they were not gassed by the Nazis, then they were transported and accommodated elsewhere by the Nazis. Ok, exactly who are you talking about? I have already said who above. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 22, 2022 10:31:58 GMT
Ok, exactly who are you talking about? I have already said who above. You didnt provide any names or addresses. So who are you talking about? |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 22, 2022 15:07:13 GMT
I have already said who above. You didnt provide any names or addresses. So who are you talking about? It is the denier claim that the c2.5 million evidenced to have been gassed were not gassed. You asked "Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere?". If they were not gassed by the Nazis, by the end of 1944, then where were all those people by the end of 1944? |
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Post by nazgul on Mar 23, 2022 9:39:47 GMT
I wrote the following elsewhere, but do not wish Nessie to contaminate the rest of the board. Have fun with this here. This is what Wiki has to say about the camps in Belarus: This is 214 thousand people in 28 ghettos aka judenlagers. Here there is a fine line between ghettos and camp. This is an average of 7,500 per ghetto. If this trend carried on for the 260 konzentrationslager and 70 ghettos as mentioned by the quoted V. Makei ( link) this would amount to 2.47 million people.According to our resident member this was said: According to deniers, no one was gassed at the AR camps and A-B Kremas between the end of 1941 and autumn 1944, which means that by the autumn of 1944, there should have been c2.5 million Jews being accommodated somewhere. Where was that somewhere? I think the answers lay in the obvious.  |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 23, 2022 10:02:46 GMT
I wrote the following elsewhere, but do not wish Nessie to contaminate the rest of the board. Have fun with this here. This is what Wiki has to say about the camps in Belarus: This is 214 thousand people in 28 ghettos aka judenlagers. Here there is a fine line between ghettos and camp. This is an average of 7,500 per ghetto. Those figures are for 1941, before most of the AR camps opened. No, since the Wiki source you use goes to to explain how those people at Minsk etc were shot by the Einsatzgruppen in mass shootings. "In the Holocaust by bullets, no less than 800,000 Jews perished in the territory of modern-day Belarus" They were not being accommodated in the Ostland, where the Jews had been shot by the EG and large parts declared Jew free. There is no evidence that by the end of 1944, the Nazis had the resources to cope with accommodating c2.5 million Jews. |
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Post by Ulios on Mar 23, 2022 10:19:16 GMT
No, since the Wiki source you use goes to to explain how those people at Minsk etc were shot by the Einsatzgruppen in mass shootings. Those are the camp numbers; the Einsatz were only concerned with partisans. The records show they only are after Bolesheviks Those camp number can be extrapolated to all the camps within that zone. This may be correct but the JUST explains the jews of the camps were from Poland and elsewhere in Europe. They were not shot by the Einsatz, who had no interest in them. The only holocaust by bullets was from the Soviets prior to the Germans arriving. The 800 thousand figure is from Soviet sources who put there own iniquities within that number, like Katyn. There is no independent verification. Judenfrei and judenrein have two distinct meanings. An area cleansed of jews is judenfei, they can be put into concentration camps. Judenrein means no jews were in the area at all. While judenfrei refers merely to "freeing" an area of all of its Jewish inhabitants, the term judenrein (literally "clean of Jews") link. Those camps had occupants. The truth is there. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 23, 2022 10:23:33 GMT
.... the Einsatz were only concerned with partisans. The records show they only are after Bolesheviks ... What records? The OSRs record the number of Jews shot as separate from partisans and Communists.
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"From October 31, 1941 to November 5, 1941, the SK shot a total of 740 people after summary proceedings, among them:
3 political officials
1 saboteur
137 Jews
599 mentally ill persons"
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 23, 2022 11:14:46 GMT
You didnt provide any names or addresses. So who are you talking about? It is the denier claim that the c2.5 million evidenced to have been gassed were not gassed. You asked "Can you explain your reasoning for this 2.5 million jews needing to be somewhere?". If they were not gassed by the Nazis, by the end of 1944, then where were all those people by the end of 1944? If one cant even specify who you're talking about how can anyone support the claim of mass murder? |
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