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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 19, 2022 12:34:24 GMT
Remember, you are talking to the person who idiotically wrote on March 13, 2022: ๐ So... I donโt understand why people think they can have a reasoned discussion with this literally mentally-challenged individual. He has no consistent understanding of the history: he will alter his argument 180ยฐ if needs be. And he has no ability to think rationally. There is no evidence of people walking out of the AR camps when they were open in 1942-3. There is evidence of death marches from concentration camps in 1944-5. By then the AR camps had been closed. Do you mean, someone saying " I walked west with the nazis!" That sort of evidence?
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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 14:05:47 GMT
There is no evidence of people walking out of the AR camps when they were open in 1942-3. There is evidence of death marches from concentration camps in 1944-5. By then the AR camps had been closed. Do you mean, someone saying " I walked west with the nazis!" That sort of evidence? That would be witness evidence. There is witness evidence of mass marches in 1944-5 from camps in the east to go west. There is no witness or any other evidence of mass marches of people back out of the AR camps when they were open in 1942-3. Been-there is confused and has shown he does not know much about the subject.
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Post by been_there on Mar 19, 2022 16:28:17 GMT
That would be fair comment if those who did march west did leave some evidence, as far as I know they didnt. Same with all the other millions of people who moved around europe at the time. Not much evidence remained. Remember, you are talking to the person who idiotically wrote on March 13, 2022: ๐ So... I donโt understand why people think they can have a reasoned discussion with this literally mentally-challenged individual. He has no consistent understanding of the history: he will alter his argument 180ยฐ if needs be. And he has no ability to think rationally. And he will move the goalposts to avoid conceding how obviously idiotic are his statements and arguments. ๐
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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 16:32:48 GMT
Remember, you are talking to the person who idiotically wrote on March 13, 2022: ๐ So... I donโt understand why people think they can have a reasoned discussion with this literally mentally-challenged individual. He has no consistent understanding of the history: he will alter his argument 180ยฐ if needs be. And he has no ability to think rationally. And he will move the goalposts to avoid conceding how obviously idiotic are his statements and arguments. ๐ I did not move the goalposts. The quote you used was referring to the AR camps, 1942-3, from which there is no evidence of mass marches as people left. This thread is about the death marches from concentration camps in the east, as the Nazis fled west taking prisoners with them.
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Post by Ulios on Mar 19, 2022 18:21:59 GMT
This thread is about the death marches from concentration camps in the east, as the Nazis fled west taking prisoners with them. The 600 camps in Ostland that conceided defeat in the Soviet advance and fled you know nothing about, not many people do. This is work in progress it seems.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 18:26:10 GMT
This thread is about the death marches from concentration camps in the east, as the Nazis fled west taking prisoners with them. The 600 camps in Ostland that conceided defeat in the Soviet advance and fled you know nothing about, not many people do. This is work in progress it seems. It is not really work in progress, since it is already known that many camps had closed before the Soviets arrived, that they often found few prisoners and that the Nazis marched most west.
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Post by Ulios on Mar 19, 2022 18:32:11 GMT
The 600 camps in Ostland that conceided defeat in the Soviet advance and fled you know nothing about, not many people do. This is work in progress it seems. It is not really work in progress, since it is already known that many camps had closed before the Soviets arrived, that they often found few prisoners and that the Nazis marched most west. You knew nothing of these camps until we told you in the old forum; until then you only knew of Trostenets and a few ghettos. You were not even aware of the first transport leaving Warsaw going to Bobruysk. Of course those camps closed before the Soviet advance, no idiot commandant is going to sit there while the Russkis come to sup vodka with him. You like most know nothing of these camps as mentionedand yet have the gall to make a statement as though you know something. How pompous and arrogant. The work in progress is finding more about these camps, individual ones, their purpose and the fate of the inmates. While this work is going on you can strut around on your high horse pretending you know something when in fact the reality is clear.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 19, 2022 18:38:35 GMT
It is not really work in progress, since it is already known that many camps had closed before the Soviets arrived, that they often found few prisoners and that the Nazis marched most west. You knew nothing of these camps until we told you in the old forum; until then you only knew of Trostenets and a few ghettos. You were not even aware of the first transport leaving Warsaw going to Bobruysk. Of course those camps closed before the Soviet advance, no idiot commandant is going to sit there while the Russkis come to sup vodka with him. You like most know nothing of these camps as mentionedand yet have the gall to make a statement as though you know something. How pompous and arrogant. The work in progress is finding more about these camps, individual ones, their purpose and the fate of the inmates. While this work is going on you can strut around on your high horse pretending you know something when in fact the reality is clear. Millions of Jews being marched west in 1945 would leave a lot of evidence which would have been found by now. Are you part of the investigation to find evidence? If so, what are you doing to find evidence?
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 19, 2022 19:10:53 GMT
Do you mean, someone saying " I walked west with the nazis!" That sort of evidence? That would be witness evidence. There is witness evidence of mass marches in 1944-5 from camps in the east to go west. There is no witness or any other evidence of mass marches of people back out of the AR camps when they were open in 1942-3. Been-there is confused and has shown he does not know much about the subject. Are you saying that if all you have is witnesses that is enough?
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Post by Nessie on Mar 20, 2022 10:24:36 GMT
That would be witness evidence. There is witness evidence of mass marches in 1944-5 from camps in the east to go west. There is no witness or any other evidence of mass marches of people back out of the AR camps when they were open in 1942-3. Been-there is confused and has shown he does not know much about the subject. Are you saying that if all you have is witnesses that is enough? If there are enough of them, they all say more or less the same thing and especially if they are Polish, Jewish and Nazi, then yes. If hundreds of thousands of people left those places, local Poles, the Jews on the trains and the Nazis responsible for coordinating the trains would all be witnesses. If there is also documentary evidence of mass marches, that would further corroborate the witnesses.
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