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Post by Ulios on Mar 29, 2022 17:00:20 GMT
Why? Lots of books about traumatic experiences are written emotively. That does not mean they all lied. Because the event is supposedly burned so well in the memory. If a slug crawled from under its rock and declared it saw the hell of Treblinka, this would be believed by he. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 29, 2022 17:14:04 GMT
Nessie wrote: Nessie is very free with that insult but can't prove what he says. He goes on the theory of, "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth". You lied when you said
"Nessie has already begun his lies with, "He described the dead from starvation and lack of water as yellow, not just those gassed.".
I proved that was a lie by quoting Wiernik here;
You then lied here when you said
"Just as you "forgot" that you said that people turned yellow from starvation but didn't mention the people who turned yellow from CO poisoning."
But when I had quoted Wiernik here;
I had included both quotes including the one about people turning yellow from gassings.
You lied and you do not have the decency to apologise.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 29, 2022 17:19:05 GMT
Because the event is supposedly burned so well in the memory. If a slug crawled from under its rock and declared it saw the hell of Treblinka, this would be believed by he. When a Nazi admits to gassings at TII and is corroborated by every witness who worked there, documentary, physical, archaeological and circumstantial evidence, you claim that Nazi is a liar, but you cannot evidence what did happen. |
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Post by Ulios on Mar 29, 2022 17:30:18 GMT
If a slug crawled from under its rock and declared it saw the hell of Treblinka, this would be believed by he. When a Nazi admits to gassings at TII and is corroborated by every witness who worked there, documentary, physical, archaeological and circumstantial evidence, you claim that Nazi is a liar, but you cannot evidence what did happen. Neither can you except believe bogus witnesses. |
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 29, 2022 18:22:18 GMT
Nessie links to www.tapatalk.com/groups/holocaustcontroversies/treblinka-eyewitness-accounts-t1916.html That's a book by Krzepicki. How typical of him to link to an entire book or a 10 page long article as support for his claim. No actual quote, though. Another weasel dodge is to quote Mattogno and Graf when they're presenting an account of the official holyhoax narrative and try to palm it off as M&G's actual finding. Nessie is always quick to trot out his accusation of, "You lie" perhaps because he does it so often himself. |
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Post by Nessie on Mar 29, 2022 19:09:12 GMT
Nessie links to www.tapatalk.com/groups/holocaustcontroversies/treblinka-eyewitness-accounts-t1916.html That's a book by Krzepicki. How typical of him to link to an entire book or a 10 page long article as support for his claim. No actual quote, though. Another weasel dodge is to quote Mattogno and Graf when they're presenting an account of the official holyhoax narrative and try to palm it off as M&G's actual finding. Nessie is always quick to trot out his accusation of, "You lie" perhaps because he does it so often himself. The link is to Treblinka testimony by Krzepiki, followed by Wiernik followed by Strawczynski. Do a Ctrl 7 word search, type in yellow and the 7th use brings you to the quotes from Wiernik;
"Some people who had been spared from another form of death, which I shall discuss later on, would become yellow and swollen from hunger and finally drop dead."
The 8th use is;
"There was no longer any beauty or ugliness, for they all were yellow from the gas."
You lied and you are weasel dodging apologising for lying.
Mattogno found evidence of transport records from TII to Majdanek. I did think he had found the evidence, but I was wrong, he had found a secondary source for that evidence. I can admit to being wrong about that.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 29, 2022 19:11:37 GMT
When a Nazi admits to gassings at TII and is corroborated by every witness who worked there, documentary, physical, archaeological and circumstantial evidence, you claim that Nazi is a liar, but you cannot evidence what did happen. Neither can you except believe bogus witnesses. You are alleging that every single person who said he worked at an AR camp or in a A-B Krema lied. There is no one who said he worked there and said something other than gassings happened. It is not credible for everyone to have lied and no one ever came forward to tell the truth. |
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 29, 2022 19:28:03 GMT
I know what Wiernik said about people turning yellow from CO poisoning. I also know that when I questioned you about Wiernik's claim, you cited his claim that people who died from starvation turned yellow. You lied by omission, Nessie
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Post by Nessie on Mar 29, 2022 19:41:16 GMT
I know what Wiernik said about people turning yellow from CO poisoning. I also know that when I questioned you about Wiernik's claim, you cited his claim that people who died from starvation turned yellow. You lied by omission, Nessie
I cited both claims he made;
You had claimed that was a lie and I proved you wrong and that you were the one who had lied.
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 29, 2022 20:14:00 GMT
You said:
That's what you wrote, Nessie. Those weren't to be taken literally, according to you. Same as the bullet bouncing off him although Wiernik took pains to assure his readers that it was hard to believe but nevertheless true that the bullet had penetrated his clothing but left only a mark on his shoulder. Wiernik lied and you swear to it or at least try to make excuses for him.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 30, 2022 8:52:41 GMT
You said: That's what you wrote, Nessie. Those weren't to be taken literally, according to you. Same as the bullet bouncing off him although Wiernik took pains to assure his readers that it was hard to believe but nevertheless true that the bullet had penetrated his clothing but left only a mark on his shoulder. Wiernik lied and you swear to it or at least try to make excuses for him. You lie repeatedly. |
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Post by Turnagain on Mar 30, 2022 9:05:17 GMT
Nessie stamps his feet and shrieks, "You lie, you lie".
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Post by Nessie on Mar 30, 2022 9:16:02 GMT
Nessie stamps his feet and shrieks, "You lie, you lie". You constantly point to what you say are lies, but it is you who lies the most. You repeatedly lie by making false claims about what others have said. Therefore, by your own standard, you have no credibility.
If you want to continue in the debate, you need to apologise for the lies I have just shown to you, where you lied and said;
"Nessie has already begun his lies with, "He described the dead from starvation and lack of water as yellow, not just those gassed.".
AND, when you lied and claimed I had lied by omission and supposedly missed out how he also described the dead by gassing as being yellow, when I had quoted him saying just that;
""Wiernik said;
"There was no more jealousy. All were equal. There was no longer any beauty or ugliness, for they all were yellow from the gas."
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"Some people who had been spared from another form of death, which I shall discuss later on, would become yellow and swollen from hunger and finally drop dead."
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Post by mrolonzo on Mar 30, 2022 9:56:02 GMT
Nessie stamps his feet and shrieks, "You lie, you lie". You constantly point to what you say are lies, but it is you who lies the most. You repeatedly lie by making false claims about what others have said. Therefore, by your own standard, you have no credibility.
If you want to continue in the debate, you need to apologise for the lies I have just shown to you, where you lied and said;
"Nessie has already begun his lies with, "He described the dead from starvation and lack of water as yellow, not just those gassed.".
AND, when you lied and claimed I had lied by omission and supposedly missed out how he also described the dead by gassing as being yellow, when I had quoted him saying just that;
""Wiernik said;
"There was no more jealousy. All were equal. There was no longer any beauty or ugliness, for they all were yellow from the gas."
AND
"Some people who had been spared from another form of death, which I shall discuss later on, would become yellow and swollen from hunger and finally drop dead."
Did you tell us that he described the dead from starvation and lack of water as yellow, not just those gassed ? |
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