Nessie wrote:
In that case, for the umpteenth time, name a single Jew who gave a reasonable and direct account of the homicidal events that took place at Treblinka and link to his statement. For the umpteenth time Nessie will now trot out his laundry list of supposed witnesses and exclaim, "See, I already done that". When queried about which Jew told the truth he'll claim that all of them did but they just made a few "mistakes" or "exaggerated" or used "emotive language". Like the burning blood tale, Rajchman was just using some "emotive language". When Wiernik was on corpse carrying duty and claimed to have run the equivalent of ~3 marathons per day without taking a drink of water while being beaten with whips and gun butts he was just "exaggerating". Nessie has an excuse for every lie told by a Jew liewitness.
The way to determine if someone is lying, or is exaggerating, is to look at the other evidence.
You have a very literal way of interpreting witnesses. If someone said that it was "raining cats and dogs" you would actually think they meant cats and dogs were pouring out of the sky. Or, if someone said "I ran a marathon at the shops today" you would think they actually meant they had run 26 miles and 385 yards.
You are getting mixed up again as to what is evidence and how much evidence is needed before something is proved.
You are weasel dodging that historians have rejected certain claims about what happened at the AR camps, because those claims are not evidenced and are hearsay or clearly mistakes, or even some lies.
You do not have precise figures. I have some very precise figures, but not a definitive total number of trains that went to the camp, or people who were selected to work.
I did that calculation here on March 22nd;
rodoh.freeforums.net/post/5314/threadand here on March 26th;
rodoh.freeforums.net/post/5468/thread"The timelines show 219 trains, of which the Warsaw trains which even you accept left empty account for 53 trains. Add in the other ghettos for which there are schedules, and that is about 60 trains, or about 30% of trains. It is 267,121 people from Warsaw, or again about 30% of the people."
I will hold your hand and walk you through the figures. For the trains, 60 trains out of 219 trains is 27%, which I had rounded to about 30%. For the people, 267,121 out of c850,000 is 31.4% which I had again rounded to about 30%.
Stop your repeated lying that I have not shown you the figures and calculations. You will likely lie again and I can now add this post to the number of times you have been shown how I got the about 30% calculation.
The 53 trains are from the Warsaw ghetto records historians used to make the Treblinka timeline. I am not saying 53 separate individual locomotives were used or anything like that, I mean each day a train load arrived from Warsaw. There were 53 in total.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Treblinka_extermination_camp2 Thursday July 23, 1942 7,300 Warsaw 13,800 Leon Finkelstein Treblinka becomes fully operational.
3 Friday July 24, 1942 7,400 Warsaw 21,200
4 Saturday July 25, 1942 7,530 Warsaw 28,730
5 Sunday July 26, 1942 6,400 Warsaw 35,130
6 Monday July 27, 1942 6,320 Warsaw 41,450
7 Tuesday July 28, 1942 5,020 Warsaw 46,470
8 Wednesday July 29, 1942 5,480 Warsaw 51,950
9 Thursday July 30, 1942 6,430 Warsaw 58,380
10 Friday July 31, 1942 6,756 Warsaw 65,136
11 Saturday August 1, 1942 6,220 Warsaw 71,356
12 Sunday August 2, 1942 6,276 Warsaw 77,632
13 Monday August 3, 1942 6,458 Warsaw 84,090
14 Tuesday August 4, 1942 6,568 Warsaw 90,658
15 Wednesday August 5, 1942 6,623 Warsaw 97,281 Hillel Zeitlin
16 Thursday August 6, 1942 10,085 Warsaw 137,366 Janusz Korczak and 200 orphans Fahrplananordnung Nr. 548; Warsaw โ Treblinka.[6][7] One of many:
17 Friday August 7, 1942 10,672 Warsaw 148,038 The German food giveaway creates backlog at the unloading ramp. Four transports in two days can not accommodate people lining up at the Umschlagplatz for several days to be "deported" as first, in order to obtain bread.[8] Fahrplananordnung Nr. 548; Warsaw โ Treblinka.[6][7] One of many:
18 Saturday August 8, 1942 7,304 Warsaw 155,342 The German food giveaway creates backlog at the unloading ramp. Four transports in two days can not accommodate people lining up at the Umschlagplatz for several days to be "deported" as first, in order to obtain bread.[8] Fahrplananordnung Nr. 548; Warsaw โ Treblinka.[6][7] One of many:
19 Sunday August 9, 1942 6,292 Warsaw 161,634 The German food giveaway creates backlog at the unloading ramp. Four transports in two days can not accommodate people lining up at the Umschlagplatz for several days to be "deported" as first, in order to obtain bread.[8] Fahrplananordnung Nr. 548; Warsaw โ Treblinka.[6][7] One of many:
20 Monday August 10, 1942 2,158 Warsaw 163,792 The German food giveaway creates backlog at the unloading ramp. Four transports in two days can not accommodate people lining up at the Umschlagplatz for several days to be "deported" as first, in order to obtain bread.[8]
21 Tuesday August 11, 1942 7,725 Warsaw 171,517
22 Wednesday August 12, 1942 4,688 Warsaw 176,205 Luba Lewin
23 Thursday August 13, 1942 4,313 Warsaw 180,518
24 Friday August 14, 1942 5,168 Warsaw 185,686 Hanna Katznelson
25 Saturday August 15, 1942 3,633 Warsaw 189,319
26 Sunday August 16, 1942 4,095 Warsaw 193,414
27 Monday August 17, 1942 4,160 Warsaw 197,574
28 Tuesday August 18, 1942 3,926 Warsaw 201,500
29 Wednesday August 19, 1942 4,000 Warsaw 205,500
30 Thursday August 20, 1942 4,000 Warsaw 239,200
31 Friday August 21, 1942 3,000 Warsaw 263,200
32 Saturday August 22, 1942 3,000 Warsaw 272,320
33 Sunday August 23, 1942 3,000 Warsaw 287,620 Jankiel Wiernik
34 Monday August 24, 1942 3,000 Warsaw 290,620
35 Tuesday August 25, 1942 3,002 Warsaw 293,622 Abraham Krzepicki
36 Wednesday August 26, 1942 3,000 Warsaw 307,622 Odilo Globocnik, Christian Wirth and Josef Oberhauser visit Treblinka. Irmfried Eberl is relieved of command.
37 Thursday August 27, 1942 2,454 Warsaw 310,076 53,750 Warsaw Jews have been deported in the past 15 days.[9]
44 Thursday September 3, 1942 4,609 Warsaw 314,685 Boris Weinberg Warsaw deportations are restarted. New arrivals are processed the next morning.[13]
45 Friday September 4, 1942 1,669 Warsaw 316,354 Kalman and Tema Taigman[14]
47 Sunday September 6, 1942 3,634 Warsaw 319,988
48 Monday September 7, 1942 6,840 Warsaw 326,828
49 Tuesday September 8, 1942 13,596 Warsaw 340,424
50 Wednesday September 9, 1942 6,616 Warsaw 347,040
51 Thursday September 10, 1942 5,199 Warsaw 352,239
52 Friday September 11, 1942 5,000 Warsaw 357,239 Jewish-Argentinian inmate Meir Berliner stabs SS-Oberscharfรผhrer Max Biala to death in a planned attack. Berliner is then executed by camp officers.
53 Saturday September 12, 1942 4,806 Warsaw 362,045 Abraham Krzepicki escapes.
62 Monday September 21, 1942 2,196 Warsaw 391,141 The last transport from the Polish capital. It includes Jewish police forced to help with deportations throughout Grossaktion Warsaw, and their families.[13]
181 Monday January 18, 1943 1,200 Warsaw 818,971
182 Tuesday January 19, 1943 1,200 Warsaw 821,771
183 Wednesday January 20, 1943 1,200 Warsaw 822,971
184 Thursday January 21, 1943 1,200 Warsaw 824,171
185 Friday January 22, 1943 1,200 Warsaw 825,371
272 Monday April 19, 1943 7,000 Warsaw 856,035 Result of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising
1 Wednesday July 22, 1942 6,500 Warsaw Ghetto 6,500