Proving lies.

Ooh! Nessie is resorting to insults..."You're a dirty liar". Yep, Nessie gets profoundly pissed off when asked for proof of his Jew inspired claims. He claims that there were 219 trips made by an unknown number of trains to haul Jews to their doom. I've seen one (possibly two) actual train schedules for those 219 trips. The claim comes from "The Treblinka Memorial Foundation", a subsidiary of the "Jewish Historical Institute". What could be more reliable than some "estimates" from that crew?

The fact is that thousands of Jews including men, women and children were transported out of Treblinka and there's absolutely no train schedules for any of them. The actual schedules vanished under the care of the Poles and their communist Soviet masters. Gee, I wonder why that happened?

Of course Nessie claims that they don't count since they were "only selected for work". How does he know that the Jews in Hunt's video were the only ones transported from Treblinka? Well, he has such witnesses as Wiernik, Rajchman et al. who claim that almost all the Jews (excepting those few thousands) were gassed/vacuumed, buried, exhumed and cremated (without any fuel) on the magic Jew barbeque.

The fantasies of the alleged eyewitnesses are excused by Nessie with his "mistakes", "exaggerations", "emotive language" along with all of his "what ifs" and "coulda woulda". Anyone who calls bullshit on such drivel is deemed to not have any knowledge of how witnesses testify. Suuuure, attorneys and judges never rely on what the witness actually says.

Of course Nessie "knows" that 30% of an unknown number of trains were assigned to the Warsaw shuttle service. How does he know? See the above concerning a grasshopper and the seeds from a cucumber. When asked to show or link to those train schedules he immediately falls back on an old favorite, "I already done that". Suuuuure you have, Nessie. Nessie and his timeline from "The Memory of Treblinka Foundation". What could be more reliable than that?

So, you have linked me to three (3) train schedules. "I already done that". I don't recall seeing three train schedules so why don't you just do that again?

Even your Jews admit that the number of Jews relocated is an estimate so where do you get the German records for the number of deportees from Warsaw?

IOW there aren't any schedules for those trains.

You have no proof that Treblinka was an extermination facility and you have no proof of how many deportees left there. Here is what Heinrich Gley said:

Gley wasn't even talking about Treblinka. He served in Belzec. Where is your witness who claimed that wood was placed under the grate at Treblinka?

You have the fantasies of Jews and the forced lies of the coerced Germans. Name one German who gave testimony at any of the trials who wasn't under the threat of legal punishments. Your claim that archaeologists have proven that Treblinka was a death camp is pure bullshit. You avoid having to admit that by claiming that the archaeologists have found "evidence" that the AR camps were death camps. You have nothing, Nessie.

In that case, what is it? Be exact.

How fascinating! 🤔🙂 Nessie appears to be losing whatever grip on reality he tenuously held.

That the person who for years has been repeatedly asking ”where did they go?” has the chutzpah to admonish someone else and insist they stop repeating questions, I think shows the disturbed state of his mind. 😎

His cognitive dissonance must presumably be reaching distrurbing levels.

But that is the inevitable consequence of irrationally and stubbornly ’believing’ instead of honestly seeking an accurate ’understanding’.  

Nessie wrote:

Those are TIMETABLES you dimwit, not the schedules. The train schedules are the actual record of what the train did.

What effing "larger wood". Mattes makes no mention of any "larger wood". He specifically says that the brushwood had some gas thrown on it and, "In that way not only the newly accumulated corpses were cremated, but also those taken out from the graves". Are you referring to your imaginary wood that was secretly shipped into Treblinka in the dead of night so no one would see or mention it?

Indeed I do. Thank you for admitting that the Germans were under coercion.

Thank you for admitting that you have no proof whatsoever that Treblinka was an extermination facility. I did say that you weasel dodge the demand for proof by citing what you call "evidence".

Your lack of math skills is a serious drawback for you. You claim that 53 separate trains engaged in hauling Jews from Warsaw to Treblinka. If each train made only one trip there would be no need for a shuttle service. Did five trains make 10 trips each? Did 10 trains make 5 trips each? How about 25 trains making 2 trips each? The actual question is, "How many trains were engaged in hauling Jews from Warsaw"? The answer is, "Unknown". Your 30% of an unknown number is pure idiocy.

Show me an example of a Nazi train schedule, to see what you mean.

The timetables are important, because they show the route of the trains and that each train left the ghetto town or city, went to TII, and then returned to its origin.



He states "brushwood" and then "wood". You cherry-pick brushwood, weasel dodge he said wood and ignore that both would be used, the brushwood as kindling to light the larger wood.



Being put on trial does not mean they were coerced. Many were acquitted, most received light sentences. They all admitted their guilt because of the overwhelming evidence they were guilty.



You are lying again, there is overwhelming evidence to prove TII was a death camp. You try to pass off worker selections and at most 3 larger transports that you cannot evidence came from TII, as evidence it was a transit camp. You are trying to weasel dodge the Nazi records of trains that show the vast majority left empty.



I did not claim 53 separate physical trains were used. We do not know how many times the Nazis used the same train to shuttle back and forth and how many times they swapped around trains. But the records show that 53 times a train left Warsaw to go to TII and then it went back to Warsaw. The other schedules show other trains that went to TII and back again. Historians have found a total of 291 transports from ghettos to TII.

That 291 transports total and c850,000 people, is where I get the percentages from.

OK, so your weasel dodge is to demand what you call schedules and to ignore what I was referring to as schedules, that you call timetables.

My point is that there are multiple transport records showing return trains to TII. Those trains returned empty. That is not consistent with TII being a transit camp.

What is your point?



All three need to be in place, under the grate and bodies before the pyre is lit, the brushwood, the wood and the petrol. Gley describes how such a pyre would be lit.



The Warsaw train record states the trains left empty. They obviously would, since they were being used to empty the ghetto. The same applies to the other ghettos, they were being emptied to TII. A train returning to a ghetto that was being emptied is not going to be transporting Jews back to the ghetto.



I already have.

rodoh.freeforums.net/post/5314/thread

rodoh.freeforums.net/post/4503/thread

rodoh.freeforums.net/post/5468/thread

I even predicted you would ask me for that information again!!!! Your tactic of asking for information, being shown the information, waiting and then asking again is just your weasel dodge tactics because you cannot bring any evidence to the debate. You demand I believe what you cannot evidence. You clearly live in la-la land.