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Post by 𝝥𝝰𝘇𝗴𝝻𝝸 on May 24, 2022 0:47:01 GMT
- I give Gibson credit for hanging in there, boy got some backbone.
- Does that ever get boring? Defaulting to the Jewish thing?
- Hoess never said four million died at Auschwitz, he said there were limits to Auschwitz’s destructive capabilities. Hoess in his memoirs also gave a corrected number that actually comes very close to what it is right now. So Hoess didn’t just deny 4 million once, he did it twice.
- This is because he is right most of the time; he exposes you lot for what you really are.
- The good doctor is "jude"; his opinions are viewed and formed within that context. What he knows is made up, much like "flippers" fantasies. Dr Terry's hypothetical constructs have little basis in reality and he knows it.
- The two items above are off topic. I will quote again what Höß said in his affidavit made at Nuremberg on 5 April 1946:
He is out by a factor of 100%, which is not just an error of judgement or a small mistake.
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Post by Turnagain on May 24, 2022 4:30:41 GMT
What is truly laughable is that Hoess willingly made a voluntary confession. His interrogator, Bernard Clarke, declared that it took three days to get a "coherent statement" from him. The guards described how they used axe handles to "prod him" (read beat the sh!t out of him) to prevent him from going to sleep. Nobody seems to care that sleep deprivation is a known torture technique. Hoess was also forced to "exercise" in freezing cold temperatures wearing only trousers and a cotton shirt. Lastly, we shouldn't forget the photo of Hoess with blood on his face.
Jeff and his fellow Jews at the Klown's forum all agree though that torturing a goy, especially a GERMAN goy is perfectly acceptable for developing documents and evidence of their eternal victimhood. "See what the eeevul German Narzis did to us?" The Germans wanted the Jews out of Europe and the post war lies and actions of Jews is proof that the Germans had damn good reasons for wanting that.
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Post by 𝝥𝝰𝘇𝗴𝝻𝝸 on May 24, 2022 7:03:20 GMT
Jeff and his fellow Jews at the Klown's forum all agree though that torturing a goy, especially a GERMAN goy is perfectly acceptable for developing documents and evidence of their eternal victimhood. "See what the eeevul German Narzis did to us?" The Germans wanted the Jews out of Europe and the post war lies and actions of Jews is proof that the Germans had damn good reasons for wanting that. I do not think it was the beatings but the pressure put on him due to his son Karl being in hands of the British Jews. It was that which caused Mrs Hoess to dob her old man in to the Brits.
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on May 24, 2022 8:49:18 GMT
Hoess should not have been treated the way he was. But, his main claims are corroborated by evidence independent of him.
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Post by been_there on May 24, 2022 9:00:17 GMT
...been-there lied to his workmate by claiming Hoess was the only witness in 1946. More staggeringly idiotic miscomprehension. 😮🤦♂️ I have NEVER “claimed Höß was the only witness in 1946”. I did not and still do not believe that. I did not tell my work colleague that. And I did not just write that I did. 
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Post by jeff8675309 on May 24, 2022 13:15:11 GMT
- This is because he is right most of the time;
No…sorry, gonna go with no with Gibson being right “most of the time.” I’m just gonna delete the paranoid yammering. In fact any more references to “Jude” will simply be deleted. It is off-topic paranoid drooling not worth acknowledging. Except that Hoess said he got the number from the conveniently absent Eichmann meaning he didn’t come up with it on his own. He also didn’t regurgitate the four million Soviet exaggeration. He also said in his memoir (which you lot conveniently ignore) said there were limits to Auschwitz’s destructive capabilities and put the number very close to what the acknowledged number is today.
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Post by Turnagain on May 24, 2022 13:35:06 GMT
Jeff (numbers) wrote:
Jeff is just going to ignore the fact that Hoess was tortured and his family threatened for his so-called confession.
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on May 24, 2022 13:43:15 GMT
It was wrong to treat Hoess the way he was treated, but the evidence remains to corroborate his claims about gassings at A-B. Been-there also remains wrong in his claim to his workmate that in 1946, Hoess was the only witness.
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Post by Turnagain on May 24, 2022 14:48:49 GMT
It was wrong to treat Hoess the way he was treated, but the evidence remains to corroborate his claims about gassings at A-B. Been-there also remains wrong in his claim to his workmate that in 1946, Hoess was the only witness. No, it wasn't "wrong" to torture Hoess for his confession, it was illegal. All confessions obtained under duress are considered null and void in any legal court. Fortunately for the hoaxsters the Nuremberg Tribunals were show trials so didn't have to conform to any legal standards. Chief Justice SCOTUS Harlan Fiske Stone called the Nuremberg Tribunals a "high grade lynching" and a "fraud". There is NO conclusive evidence that corroborates Hoess' so called confession about mass murder at Auschwitz.
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on May 24, 2022 14:57:38 GMT
It was wrong to treat Hoess the way he was treated, but the evidence remains to corroborate his claims about gassings at A-B. Been-there also remains wrong in his claim to his workmate that in 1946, Hoess was the only witness. No, it wasn't "wrong" to torture Hoess for his confession, it was illegal. Is it not wrong to do something illegal? The Nazi confessions to mass gassings are corroborated by other evidence.
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Post by Turnagain on May 24, 2022 15:10:19 GMT
Nessie wrote:
Your attempt to soft-peddle the fact that Hoess was tortured for a "confession" doesn't fly, Nessie. Lots of things can be considered "wrong" but aren't illegal. Torturing a prisoner for a confession is illegal. There is NO conclusive proof that Auschwitz was an extermination camp. Hoaxsters conveniently forget that there were other confessions obtained under duress. Franz Zeireis confessed to gassing 65,000 prisoners at Mauthausen during the Kaltenbrunner trial.
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on May 24, 2022 15:21:06 GMT
Nessie wrote: Your attempt to soft-peddle the fact that Hoess was tortured for a "confession" doesn't fly, Nessie. Lots of things can be considered "wrong" but aren't illegal. Torturing a prisoner for a confession is illegal. There is NO conclusive proof that Auschwitz was an extermination camp. Hoaxsters conveniently forget that there were other confessions obtained under duress. Franz Zeireis confessed to gassing 65,000 prisoners at Mauthausen during the Kaltenbrunner trial. You conveniently forget that I only use witness evidence where there is not evidence of duress, such as the Topf & Sins engineers, who corroborate Hoess that the Kremas were used for mass gassings. There IS conclusive proof A-B was used for mass gassings.
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Post by jeff8675309 on May 24, 2022 15:27:52 GMT
Jeff (numbers) wrote: Jeff is just going to ignore the fact that Hoess was tortured and his family threatened for his so-called confession. Oh no, and Hoess is the only witness and there are no documents to back up what he said!!!! Whatever shall I do?  ? LOL
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Post by Turnagain on May 24, 2022 15:50:10 GMT
Jeff(numbers) wrote:
So, you ARE OK with Hoess being tortured for his confession. Since there's no legal confession, how is it "backed up" with documents? Care to show some stand alone documents that prove that A-B was an extermination facility? That's PROOF, Jeff, not something that you call "evidence".
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Post by Turnagain on May 24, 2022 15:53:25 GMT
Nessie wrote:
Nessie stamps his feet and shrieks, "There IS conclusive proof, there is, there is". Way to go, Nessie.
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