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Post by Nessie on May 27, 2022 16:31:18 GMT
Nessie wrote: Ziereis as commander of Mauthausen had the following camps under his command. As commandant he was the responsible person. What can't you understand about that? I was mistaken about him being tried at the IMT. Goering mentioned that Ziereis was at the IMT but not that he had been shot later. Mea culpa. You said;
"I assume that you're referring to trials like the Franz Zeireis trial at Nuremberg."
That is a lie, he was not tried at Nuremberg.
"You know, where he confessed to gassing 65,000 Jews at Mauthausen"
That is a lie, he confessed to 65,000 prisoners dying at the camp, not being gassed.
According to you, mistakes are lies.
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Post by Turnagain on May 28, 2022 4:01:14 GMT
I was wrong about him being tried at the IMT. It's extremely doubtful if he made any confession at all. The standard calibers for the US Army small arms were .45, .30 carbine and .30 rifle (.30-06) The .45 was a pistol and SMG round. The .30 carbine is a very minor round and the M-1 carbine was mainly issued to officers in lieu of just a pistol. The M-1 Garand was chambered for the .30-06 rifle which was and still is a very hot round. The Garand was issued to troops such as the US private who shot Ziereis while "trying to escape". There are various accounts of whether he was shot in the back or from the front. Some say that he was dead before the confession was concocted. Three rounds from a .30-06 unless placed very carefully away from the torso will either be instantly fatal or fatal after a very short period of time.
The first source that I read stated that Ziereis had confessed to gassing 65,000 Jews. You claim that 65,000 just up and died. There was a deposition stating that the confession said that Kaltenbrunner had given Ziereis an order to kill everyone in the camp. If you have the one and only true account of Ziereis' confession and death then let's see it.
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