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Post by Nessie on Feb 9, 2022 11:28:14 GMT
Nessie wrote: You can't "set bodies on fire". Heat must be applied until the water in the body is dehydrated before the organic material can be burned. A fire is set below the rails, using kindling to light larger wood. That larger wood burns to embers, drawing in air and burning the oxygen. Embers generate up to 1000 degrees which is easily enough to evaporate the moisture and set the corpses alight. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 9, 2022 15:28:35 GMT
Uh-huh, and where did all that wood come from, Nessie?
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Post by Nessie on Feb 9, 2022 16:40:05 GMT
Uh-huh, and where did all that wood come from, Nessie? Delivered from a Polish wood yard, as Erwin Herman Lambert said about Sobibor;
"First of all, I went with Hackenholt to a sawmill near Warsaw. There Hackenholt ordered a big consignment of wood for reconstruction in Sobibor."
It is odd you think that it is beyond German abilities to source wood. Why do you think ordering wood is too incredible to believe?
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 13:58:33 GMT
Uh-huh, and where did all that wood come from, Nessie? Delivered from a Polish wood yard, as Erwin Herman Lambert said about Sobibor;
"First of all, I went with Hackenholt to a sawmill near Warsaw. There Hackenholt ordered a big consignment of wood for reconstruction in Sobibor."
It is odd you think that it is beyond German abilities to source wood. Why do you think ordering wood is too incredible to believe?
Yes some wood for construction would clearly be needed. But youre talking about creating effectively an open air furnace that burned at the highest possible temperature for months on end. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 10, 2022 14:33:43 GMT
Nessie doesn't differentiate between lumber, firewood, trees or brush. Wood is wood.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 10, 2022 15:20:03 GMT
Delivered from a Polish wood yard, as Erwin Herman Lambert said about Sobibor;
"First of all, I went with Hackenholt to a sawmill near Warsaw. There Hackenholt ordered a big consignment of wood for reconstruction in Sobibor."
It is odd you think that it is beyond German abilities to source wood. Why do you think ordering wood is too incredible to believe?
Yes some wood for construction would clearly be needed. But youre talking about creating effectively an open air furnace that burned at the highest possible temperature for months on end.
The Nazis organised deliveries of wood to the camps. What is so astounding about that?
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Post by Nessie on Feb 10, 2022 15:23:01 GMT
Nessie doesn't differentiate between lumber, firewood, trees or brush. Wood is wood. The opposite is true. Descriptions of brushwood and twigs are about the kindling used to start the cremations. Larger wood caught fire, burnt to embers and the heat generated dried out the corpses and they caught fire.
The descriptions and photos of pyres at Dresden and Ohrdruf confirm that. Anyone who has started a wood fire knows that.
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 16:01:08 GMT
Yes some wood for construction would clearly be needed. But youre talking about creating effectively an open air furnace that burned at the highest possible temperature for months on end.
The Nazis organised deliveries of wood to the camps. What is so astounding about that?
Yes, no revisionist ever denied that. But youre claiming they imported great amounts of wood from somewhere, but seem to be rather vague on the details. |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 10, 2022 16:09:07 GMT
The Nazis organised deliveries of wood to the camps. What is so astounding about that?
Yes, no revisionist ever denied that. But youre claiming they imported great amounts of wood from somewhere, but seem to be rather vague on the details. The details of wood deliveries are indeed vague. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 16:11:54 GMT
Yes, no revisionist ever denied that. But youre claiming they imported great amounts of wood from somewhere, but seem to be rather vague on the details. The details of wood deliveries are indeed vague. Right, vague deliveries, vague deforestation. What are we left with that is concrete? |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 10, 2022 16:38:34 GMT
The details of wood deliveries are indeed vague. Right, vague deliveries, vague deforestation. What are we left with that is concrete? That wood was delivered to the AR camps from Polish wood yards. We just do not know how much. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 16:51:15 GMT
Right, vague deliveries, vague deforestation. What are we left with that is concrete? That wood was delivered to the AR camps from Polish wood yards. We just do not know how much. Right, so about enough to build a shed? |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 11, 2022 0:08:36 GMT
Nessie wrote:
Nessie is back to trying to conflate lumber deliveries with firewood deliveries. Of course the Germans organized locally sourced lumber deliveries for constructing the camp. There are NO records of deliveries of firewood which is why witnesses such as Rajchman declared that twigs were used to "set the bodies alight" whereupon they merrily burned all by themselves. Water content of the cadavers be damned.
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 11, 2022 0:13:48 GMT
Nessie wrote: Nessie is back to trying to conflate lumber deliveries with firewood deliveries. Of course the Germans organized locally sourced lumber deliveries for constructing the camp. There are NO records of deliveries of firewood which is why witnesses such as Rajchman declared that twigs were used to "set the bodies alight" whereupon they merrily burned all by themselves. Water content of the cadavers be damned. Yes its reasonable that the nazis would require properly cut lumber to construct accommodations and offices. But that's about it. |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 11, 2022 8:52:31 GMT
Nessie wrote: Nessie is back to trying to conflate lumber deliveries with firewood deliveries. Of course the Germans organized locally sourced lumber deliveries for constructing the camp. There are NO records of deliveries of firewood which is why witnesses such as Rajchman declared that twigs were used to "set the bodies alight" whereupon they merrily burned all by themselves. Water content of the cadavers be damned. You are suggesting that Polish wood yards could not supply lumber for construction and wood for fires.
You ignore the process for starting fires, using kindling first.
You ignore that expose a body at up to 1000 degrees and it will eventually catch fire.
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