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Post by been_there on Feb 12, 2022 12:21:23 GMT
How ridiculous was it to transport millions of civilians from one end of Europe to the other, supposedly in order to โannihilateโ them, during an existentialist fight for survival, during a collossal world war, when resources were increasingly limited?
How ridiculous is it to ask someone to denounce one world leader as the most โevilโ man in recent times, based on responsibility for deaths, when that person has just made clear there is no evidence that leader even knew of 6 million Jewish deaths, let alone can be held responsible for them? And when there is undeniable and accepted evidence of many more civilians massacred on the orders of Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt and Truman?
These are just two questions raised in this 25 minute programme in 1977. I suggest this 25 minute piece of fairly recent history shows just how psychotic was โ and still is โ the currently consensus view of WW2. It shows the irrational position of the biased audience (presumably deliberately chosen), the accepted โhistoriansโ, the presenter (David Frost) regarding: Hitler, WW2 and the Jewish experience in Europe.
What is more it shows how mass-media and the BBC have for so long tried to distort the truth for its viewers, by allowing Frost to try and perpetuate the consensus view so arbitrarily and dishonestly on prime-time TV.
This is a fascinating bit of TV history as David Irving surprises and exposes David Frostโs bias and unprofessionalism by bringing at his own expense an eye-witness to appear on Frostโs show. It was one of Hitlerโs staff members whom was one of a hundred Germans that Frost and his team had contacted yet didnโt invite to appear as they wouldnโt say what Frost and the BBC wanted to hear from them.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 5, 2022 14:45:20 GMT
How ridiculous was it to transport millions of civilians from one end of Europe to the other, supposedly in order to โannihilateโ them, during an existentialist fight for survival, during a collossal world war, when resources were increasingly limited? .... You are ignoring that all those Jews registered and arrested all over Europe had their homes, businesses and property stolen from them. The Nazis made a lot of money from that massive theft and then used many Jews as slave labourers. The cost to the Nazis of transporting Jews east was dwarfed by the money they made. When much of that was happening, in 1942-3, the Nazis were still confident of success and resources were not limited. The Wannsee Conference laid out Nazi plans for the Final Solution, the August Frank memo about the disposition of Jewish property and the Odilo Globocnik reports to Himmler on AR evidence how the Nazis regarded the Jews as a means to make money; nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/documents/4398-instructions-to-ss-officials?q=evidence:%22NO-724%22#p.1www.holocaustresearchproject.org/economics/arbalancesheet.html
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Post by Ulios on Mar 6, 2022 19:47:07 GMT
You are ignoring that all those Jews registered and arrested all over Europe had their homes, businesses and property stolen from them. The Nazis made a lot of money from that massive theft and then used many Jews as slave labourers. Peter Lantos describes how he and his parents, all Jews paid for their ticket out of Hungary and paid for their work by the Reich. Hardly slave labour.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 6, 2022 19:57:00 GMT
You are ignoring that all those Jews registered and arrested all over Europe had their homes, businesses and property stolen from them. The Nazis made a lot of money from that massive theft and then used many Jews as slave labourers. Peter Lantos describes how he and his parents, all Jews paid for their ticket out of Hungary and paid for their work by the Reich. Hardly slave labour. Not all Jews were used as slave labour. Peter Lantos was 5 when he sent to Bergen-Belsen.
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Post by Ulios on Mar 6, 2022 20:45:09 GMT
Not all Jews were used as slave labour. Peter Lantos was 5 when he sent to Bergen-Belsen. Strange, I thought all young Jews under 15 were killed as useless eaters. Make up your mind. Note the lie in the Wiki article on his father: His father died as he traded his food for cigarettes and starved to death.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 7, 2022 9:35:09 GMT
Not all Jews were used as slave labour. Peter Lantos was 5 when he sent to Bergen-Belsen. Strange, I thought all young Jews under 15 were killed as useless eaters. You thought wrong. I have never claimed that all younger people were killed as useless eaters. You make lost of claims without linking to the evidence.
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Post by ๐๐จ๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐จ๐ซ on Mar 7, 2022 10:35:18 GMT
You make lost of claims without linking to the evidence. I have read this book called "Parallel Lines"; it distinctly states that Lantos father died because of this trading of food for cigarettes.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 7, 2022 10:43:29 GMT
You make lost of claims without linking to the evidence. I have read this book called "Parallel Lines"; it distinctly states that Lantos father died because of this trading of food for cigarettes. Then edit the Wiki entry and show the source.
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Post by ๐๐จ๐๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐จ๐ซ on Mar 7, 2022 11:01:16 GMT
Then edit the Wiki entry and show the source. Perhaps you should take time to read this work and his other book and take the responsibility. It is clear this Wiki source is part of the hoax, if there is indeed one. That source is false information.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 7, 2022 16:03:06 GMT
Then edit the Wiki entry and show the source. Perhaps you should take time to read this work and his other book and take the responsibility. It is clear this Wiki source is part of the hoax, if there is indeed one. That source is false information. How is there a hoax, when two different sources disagree why someone died, but they agree he died and where he died?
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Post by ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ป๐ธ on Mar 7, 2022 19:26:25 GMT
How is there a hoax, when two different sources disagree why someone died, but they agree he died and where he died? Peter Lantos describes quite clearly how his father died, he traded scarce nutrition for his addiction to cigarettes. For someone to state that he died due to harsh camp conditions is a distinct lie, not an error. Anyone who had not read the book by the dead mans son would add that information to the litany of lies surrounding the camps. This is a deliberate ploy found so often in holocaust literature.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 7, 2022 19:31:29 GMT
How is there a hoax, when two different sources disagree why someone died, but they agree he died and where he died? Peter Lantos describes quite clearly how his father died, he traded scarce nutrition for his addiction to cigarettes. For someone to state that he died due to harsh camp conditions is a distinct lie, not an error. Anyone who had not read the book by the dead mans son would add that information to the litany of lies surrounding the camps. This is a deliberate ploy found so often in holocaust literature. All you need to do is edit the entry in Wikipedia and show the source.
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Post by Ulios on Mar 7, 2022 20:18:43 GMT
Peter Lantos describes quite clearly how his father died, he traded scarce nutrition for his addiction to cigarettes. For someone to state that he died due to harsh camp conditions is a distinct lie, not an error. Anyone who had not read the book by the dead mans son would add that information to the litany of lies surrounding the camps. This is a deliberate ploy found so often in holocaust literature. All you need to do is edit the entry in Wikipedia and show the source. This could be done if someone can be bothered, however, the issue is the fake news surrounding holocaust matters.
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Post by Charles Traynor on Mar 7, 2022 20:51:16 GMT
All you need to do is edit the entry in Wikipedia and show the source. This could be done if someone can be bothered, however, the issue is the fake news surrounding holocaust matters. As a half mad zealot Nessie finds it easy to laugh off the real life cost of interacting with the Jewish power structure. Even if someone did take the time and effort to edit that particular Wikipedia entry to show the truth, it would quickly be reedited to comply with the official holohoax narrative and he/she would be banned from ever editing Wikipedia entries ever again.
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Post by Nessie on Mar 8, 2022 9:11:00 GMT
No matter how ridiculous the hoax revisionists alleged is, they will believe.
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