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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 9:52:51 GMT
....Yes, the logistics involved in the disposal of millions of bodies is not something that H-believers seem to be able to get their heads around. Just check out this assessment: A typical pyre for 300 cows had the following: — 175 tonnes of coal, — 380 railway sleepers, — 250 pallets, — 4 tonnes of straw and — 2,250 litres of diesel. That needs verifying, since the numerous photos online of cattle burning during foot and mouth show images of cows, with nothing like that amount of fuel.  |
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Post by Ulios on Jan 27, 2022 9:54:44 GMT
Nessie wrote: Are you claiming that Mattogno and Graf authored those words? This issue has to be sorted. It is ignored by Nessie despite Hüntinger and others mentioning it on many occasions. This would affect the cremation information if there were anything and other data. It is off topic for this thread but it will be made into a new one. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 9:54:54 GMT
Nessie wrote: Are you claiming that Mattogno and Graf authored those words? No. They are the secondary source that is quoting the primary source of reports of what was found at TII. That is a quote from a report on one of the site visits in 1945. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 9:57:53 GMT
Nessie wrote: Are you claiming that Mattogno and Graf authored those words? This issue has to be sorted. It is ignored by Nessie despite Hüntinger and others mentioning it on many occasions. This would affect the cremation information if there were anything and other data. It is off topic for this thread but it will be made into a new one. It is important information because it is evidence that the cremations at the AR camps were not complete cremations. We concentrate on cremains, as they can be found on the surface of the ground and make up much of what was found. But, larger, identifiable human remains that had not been fully cremated, were also found. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 27, 2022 10:00:33 GMT
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What the hell does that have to do with the culling and burning of cattle in Britain? The fuel necessary to incinerate either 300,000 lbs of cattle or 300,000 lbs of humans would be approximately the same.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 27, 2022 10:28:51 GMT
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175 tons is 5-6 truckloads. Looks reasonable to me for the mound of coal between the sleepers but by all means check a second source. It's in your bailiwick so finding sources shouldn't be that difficult for you.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 10:34:38 GMT
Nessie wrote: What the hell does that have to do with the culling and burning of cattle in Britain? The fuel necessary to incinerate either 300,000 lbs of cattle or 300,000 lbs of humans would be approximately the same. This thread has backfired. It is part of the revisionist claim that pyres as described are not physically possible, because there was not enough fuel. But photos of the foot and mouth pyres show piles of cows and not much fuel, which is similar to the photos of the pyres at Dresden and various camps. |
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Post by Ulios on Jan 27, 2022 10:42:32 GMT
This thread has backfired. It is part of the revisionist claim that pyres as described are not physically possible, because there was not enough fuel. But photos of the foot and mouth pyres show piles of cows and not much fuel, which is similar to the photos of the pyres at Dresden and various camps. A typical pyre for 300 cows had the following: — 175 tonnes of coal, — 380 railway sleepers, — 250 pallets, — 4 tonnes of straw and — 2,250 litres of diesel. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 10:47:39 GMT
This thread has backfired. It is part of the revisionist claim that pyres as described are not physically possible, because there was not enough fuel. But photos of the foot and mouth pyres show piles of cows and not much fuel, which is similar to the photos of the pyres at Dresden and various camps. A typical pyre for 300 cows had the following: — 175 tonnes of coal, — 380 railway sleepers, — 250 pallets, — 4 tonnes of straw and — 2,250 litres of diesel. There is one source for that claim, and it is not backed up by the photos shown. Odd how information that is what you want to hear, is not checked to see if it is correct or not.
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Post by Ulios on Jan 27, 2022 10:55:18 GMT
There is one source for that claim, and it is not backed up by the photos shown. Odd how information that is what you want to hear, is not checked to see if it is correct or not. Nonsense the internet is full of information on animal cremations. This is more like it. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 27, 2022 11:00:31 GMT
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There's hardly anything controversial about the amount of fuel required to cull cattle. If you want to check the figures then do so. You also forget that the Treblinka magic Jew barbeque was only about 1.5 meters wide and 30 meters long. That begs the question of where did all the fuel including the 675,000 liters of diesel come from?
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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 11:06:35 GMT
There is one source for that claim, and it is not backed up by the photos shown. Odd how information that is what you want to hear, is not checked to see if it is correct or not. Nonsense the internet is full of information on animal cremations. This is more like it. The internet is full of photos of animal cremations. The issue is how much fuel was used and how does that relate to the pyres that did not use as much fuel, such as at Dresden, the AR camps, Birkenau and Ohrdruf. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 27, 2022 11:08:30 GMT
Nessie wrote: There's hardly anything controversial about the amount of fuel required to cull cattle. If you want to check the figures then do so. You also forget that the Treblinka magic Jew barbeque was only about 1.5 meters wide and 30 meters long. That begs the question of where did all the fuel including the 675,000 liters of diesel come from? The photos of foot and mouth cattle being cremated do not show the amounts of fuel suggested in the report. |
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Post by Ulios on Jan 27, 2022 11:10:46 GMT
The photos of foot and mouth cattle being cremated do not show the amounts of fuel suggested in the report. This is because the fuel has been expended or is in the process of being so. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 27, 2022 11:41:44 GMT
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Nessie is talking out of his nether regions. Railway sleepers are commonly 7"X9"X8.5'. The coal can be seen to be burning at least twice that height or 14 inches high. When building a runway or large construction site bellydumps plus a blade (grader) such as a Cat 16G is used. A belly with a 20-22 inch opening will lay about a 30 foot long windrow that the blade will knock down into about a 5-6 inch lift a little under 16 feet wide. The "16" in the "16G" stands for a blade 16 feet wide.
From my experience the coal in the photo looks to be precisely what one would could reasonably expect from a burning area of about 100 yards or so. That's just an estimate but for those parameters, they're pretty damn close.
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