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Post by been_there on Jan 25, 2022 20:40:17 GMT
Anyone in Britain and with access to their online iplayer can watch a documentary on the 2001 cull of livestock in Wales due to trying to contain an outbreak of ‘foot and mouth’ disease. The documentary is called: Foot and mouth - the killing fields in WalesOne interesting aspect of that cull in Wales that has relevance to the ‘holocaust’ narrative has to do with burying then later disinterring corpses and cremating them. Because the documentary shows that is EXACTLY what occurred at a place called Epynt in the Brecon Beacons near Sennybridge. First they just buried 40,000 carcasses. But the decaying bodies poisoned the water-table and so months later it was decided to dig them up and burn them. The documentary shows actual film of bulldozers digging up the carcasses prior to putting them on pyres. I tried to find online a clearer description of the actual process, the pyres and how long it took to reduce all those bodies to ash. But my search was without success. Maybe someone else could do a search and perhaps have better luck? The best I could find with some details was this: |
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Post by Ulios on Jan 26, 2022 8:42:43 GMT
This explains the reasons for the burnings. The animals do not need to be incinerated just the destruction of the microbe and dehydration.
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 10:04:17 GMT
This explains the reasons for the burnings. The animals do not need to be incinerated just the destruction of the microbe and dehydration. Are you saying that the sheep were charred rather than a complete cremation? That is, the carcasses were burned to the carbonizing of the bone material? |
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Post by Ulios on Jan 26, 2022 10:09:39 GMT
This explains the reasons for the burnings. The animals do not need to be incinerated just the destruction of the microbe and dehydration. Are you saying that the sheep were charred rather than a complete cremation? That is, the carcasses were burned to the carbonizing of the bone material? This would in effect stop the disease and pollution of the water table. The cremains would be reburied. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 10:17:42 GMT
I fail to understand, Ulios. Were the sheep carcasses burned/charred much like a leg of overcooked mutton or were the carcasses actually subjected to enough heat to cremate them? That is, carbonized bone and nothing else?
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Post by been_there on Jan 26, 2022 12:22:18 GMT
There is a documentary on the 2001 cull of livestock in Wales. The documentary is called: Foot and mouth - the killing fields in WalesOne interesting aspect of that cull in Wales that has relevance to the ‘holocaust’ narrative has to do with burying then later disinterring corpses and cremating them. Because the documentary shows that is EXACTLY what occurred at a place called Epynt in the Brecon Beacons near Sennybridge... The documentary shows actual film of bulldozers digging up the carcasses prior to putting them on pyres... I found a more detailed reporting of the logistics involved in disposing of 40,000 carcases of sheep and cows. It can be accessed here. That alone is telling as the farmers adjacent the two Treblinka camps made no mention of any of these type of problems.  |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 12:36:28 GMT
It would seem that the burial, exhumation and cremation of ~900,000 human cadavers isn't the simple matter that Nessie assumes it to be.
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Post by been_there on Jan 26, 2022 18:16:48 GMT
I found a more detailed reporting of the logistics involved in disposing of 40,000 carcases of sheep and cows. It can be accessed here. That alone is telling as the farmers adjacent the two Treblinka camps made no mention of any of these type of problems. Yes, the logistics involved in the disposal of millions of bodies is not something that H-believers seem to be able to get their heads around. Just check out this assessment: A typical pyre for 300 cows had the following: — 175 tonnes of coal, — 380 railway sleepers, — 250 pallets, — 4 tonnes of straw and — 2,250 litres of diesel. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 26, 2022 19:03:38 GMT
So, 3,000 cadavers would weigh about 300,000 lbs. If the cattle weighed 1,000 lbs each then they would weigh about 300,000 lbs. That would be the fuel requirements for each cremation session at Treblinka and there would be about 300 of those. That would be about 52,500 tons of coal and 675,000 liters of diesel fuel. That's about 206,000 gallons (205,792).
Of course that's in the real world. In holyhoax la-la land it could be accomplished with just some twigs or brush.
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on Jan 27, 2022 8:54:03 GMT
Foot and mouth
Ohrdruf Concentration Camp
Birkenau
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on Jan 27, 2022 9:01:01 GMT
The cremations at TII lasted for 6 to 8 months and from what was found at the site in 1945, by when grave robbers had been digging much of the site up looking for valuables, including the use of explosives, was not complete cremations; vho.org/GB/Books/t/4.html"The bombs had revealed the contents of the desecrated soil. Leg bones, ribs, pieces of the spine, skulls big and small, short and long, round and flat." "The largest of the craters produced by explosions (numerous fragments attest to the fact that these explosions were set off by bombs), which is at maximum 6 meters deep and has a diameter of about 25 meters - its walls give recognizable evidence of the presence of a large quantity of ashes as well as human remains - was further excavated in order to discover the depth of the pit in this part of the camp. Numerous human remains were found by these excavations, partially still in a state of decomposition.[[208]] The soil consists of ashes interspersed with sand, is of a dark gray color and granulous in form. During the excavations, the soil gave off an intense odor of burning and decay." "In the northwestern section of the area, the surface is covered for about 2 hectares by a mixture of ashes and sand. In this mixture, one finds countless human bones, often still covered with tissue remains, which are in a condition of decomposition. During the inspection, which I made with the assistance of an expert in forensic medicine, it was determined that the ashes are without any doubt of human origin (remains of cremated human bones). The examination of human skulls could discover no trace of wounding. At a distance of some 100 m, there is now an unpleasant odor of burning and decay." |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 27, 2022 9:16:06 GMT
Nessie shows some charred bodies, the spaghetti women and of course a pile of clothed bodies at Dresden. The bodies at Ohrdruf still have distinguishable features and there's nowhere near 3,000 of them. The spaghetti women are faked and there's no photo of any cremains at Dresden. Does he have anything relevant to the incineration of the cattle?
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Post by Ulios on Jan 27, 2022 9:18:53 GMT
Is it possible to discuss cremations etc without constant reference to TII.
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞 on Jan 27, 2022 9:42:41 GMT
Nessie shows some charred bodies, the spaghetti women and of course a pile of clothed bodies at Dresden. The bodies at Ohrdruf still have distinguishable features and there's nowhere near 3,000 of them. The spaghetti women are faked and there's no photo of any cremains at Dresden. Does he have anything relevant to the incineration of the cattle? The style of pyre is very similar, bodies piled on not as wood as expected and the cremations are not complete, where everything has been burned down to ash. The comparisons of the foot and mouth pyres to what happened at various camps and in Dresden, is actually further evidence the type of pyre you dispute as not physically possible to do, was in fact physically possible. |
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Post by Turnagain on Jan 27, 2022 9:46:49 GMT
Nessie wrote:
Are you claiming that Mattogno and Graf authored those words?
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