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Post by Nessie on Aug 30, 2022 14:52:23 GMT
You blocked the exhaust entirely. Calculate the volume of exhaust from your engine then build a corresponding container. The ratio of exhaust volume to gas chamber volume is 27 liters to 142.5 liters.
Almost forgot, run your engine at 2,000 rpm.
You also need the structural forces the container can sustain. If you know, why not shown your calculations? You like doing that, because you can pretend you are dealing with the evidence and give support to your argument from incredulity. |
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Post by been_there on Aug 30, 2022 14:54:56 GMT
Exhaust gas needs no hermetic sealing, you breath it every day around your Loch jew. Hermetic sealing is to seal gas under pressure as in a coke bottle; in this case it could be to keep outside air from going in. Forum rules state you should use a members user name and you should keep your discussions polite, if you want your posts to remain. Then stop falsely calling people โdirty liarsโ, โdeniersโ, and falsely claiming anyone who doesnโt believe the nonsensensical claims included in the holocaust mythology is doing so because they are racists and โanti-semitesโ. |
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 30, 2022 14:57:31 GMT
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That's your problem. You're the one claiming that the inlet pipes would fail or the engine would stall before the building collapsed. The experiment I outlined would give you an idea of how long the gassing engine would run before stalling.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 30, 2022 15:37:02 GMT
Forum rules state you should use a members user name and you should keep your discussions polite, if you want your posts to remain. Then stop falsely calling people โdirty liarsโ, โdeniersโ, and falsely claiming anyone who doesnโt believe the nonsensensical claims included in the holocaust mythology is doing so because they are racists and โanti-semitesโ. I am a he. Turnagin lies that there is no evidence. Denier is the common term to describe those who deny or doubt much of the Holocaust. Denial claims all the Jews who say they saw gassings are liars and that they have driven a hoax to gain influence and compensation. They are all facts. |
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Post by Nessie on Aug 30, 2022 15:38:56 GMT
Nessie wrote: That's your problem. You're the one claiming that the inlet pipes would fail or the engine would stall before the building collapsed. The experiment I outlined would give you an idea of how long the gassing engine would run before stalling. You are trying to divert from discussing the actual evidence. Deniers making calculations as to what they think is possible, is their pretending they are evidencing their beliefs, as they justify denying the evidence and their claim it is all too incredible to believe, therefore it did not happen. |
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 30, 2022 16:07:11 GMT
Nessie wrote:
I asked you, "how do you know that the pipes would burst or the engine stall before the building collapsed"? You replied:
Hunh? What actual evidence are you talking about? I made no calculations. I did offer you the outline of an experiment for determining how long an engine would run under the Treblinka conditions. I didn't deny any evidence. I just asked you how you knew that the engine would stall or the inlet pipe burst before the building collapsed.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 30, 2022 16:14:56 GMT
Nessie wrote: I asked you, "how do you know that the pipes would burst or the engine stall before the building collapsed"? You replied: Hunh? What actual evidence are you talking about? I made no calculations. I did offer you the outline of an experiment for determining how long an engine would run under the Treblinka conditions. I didn't deny any evidence. I just asked you how you knew that the engine would stall or the inlet pipe burst before the building collapsed. I answered you, when I explained about the potato in the car exhaust.
You love to make calculations about stockpiles, exhaust output, length of distance run etc and pretend that is evidence.
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 30, 2022 16:46:42 GMT
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You simply blocked the exhaust pipe. That wasn't what happened to the engine at Treblinka. I offered you a way to simulate the conditions at Treblinka.
Yep, calculations determine the facts. Facts are pesky things when it comes to the holyhoax. Nessie much prefers to keep his head wedged firmly in his arse when it comes to holyhoax claims.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 30, 2022 18:25:27 GMT
Nessie wrote: You simply blocked the exhaust pipe. That wasn't what happened to the engine at Treblinka. I offered you a way to simulate the conditions at Treblinka. Yep, calculations determine the facts. Facts are pesky things when it comes to the holyhoax. Nessie much prefers to keep his head wedged firmly in his arse when it comes to holyhoax claims. Your calculations are based on witnesses who you say are liars and cannot be trusted. Those witnesses estimate and give descriptions that are not reliable and incomplete. That makes your calculations unreliable. You cannot logically or rationally make any definitive conclusions from your calculations. That is why your incredulity is not founded on anything that can be considered reasonable.
Only the evidence can reliably prove what happened.
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 30, 2022 19:03:13 GMT
Yep, calculations provide the evidence that the witnesses are lying.
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Post by been_there on Aug 31, 2022 4:26:16 GMT
Then stop falsely calling people โdirty liarsโ, โdeniersโ, and falsely claiming anyone who doesnโt believe the nonsensensical claims included in the holocaust mythology is doing so because they are racists and โanti-semitesโ. I am a he. So you say. But you regularly lie. No, he doesnโt. That is another of YOUR lies. He says there is no credible evidence and makes the distinction between โevidenceโ and โproofโ. โDenierโ is the dishonest perjorative that Holocaust liars/promoters use to silence, demonise, persecute and criminalise critics of the mass-gassing aspect of their racist, anti-German, refuted atrocity-propaganda. They DEMONSTRATE the truth of that with empirical evidence that ironically you and the other cultish H-believers are in denial of. ๐ Yeah, yeah. You mean โfactsโ such as Rajchman didnโt claim to see blood of a quarter of a million Joos โburning as if fuel ...for a day and a nightโ. Sure. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คช |
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Post by Nessie on Aug 31, 2022 8:15:51 GMT
Yep, calculations provide the evidence that the witnesses are lying. Or, mistaken. Or, because your calculations are based on evidence you admit is unreliable, are themselves unreliable.
There are known flaws in witness memory. People are poor at estimating size, distance, time and crowds. Your conclusion that they are lying, is ignoring that there is another possible conclusion.
That is why, even if someone is poor at describing something, it does not mean therefore they lied and it did not happen.
Plus, your intention is to find excuses to disbelieve the witnesses. So, your bias creeps in, which makes your conclusions even more unreliable.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 31, 2022 8:28:24 GMT
So you say. But you regularly lie. You will address me as a he, or your reply will be removed. You claim I regularly lie and then, as usual, you provide no evidence to back up your claim. An example of his constant lying, is his claim that there are no train records for TII, or that show trains departing the camp. That is a lie, and he knows it is a lie, because he has seen the Fahrplanordnungs which show ghetto transports arriving at and then leaving the camp. He also knows about records at Majdanek of transports that left TII. It is also a lie to say there is no credible evidence, as the evidence presented has been checked and verified by multiple historians, archaeologists and other relevant experts, including in court during trials, over the decades. Its credibility has been verified by the method that is used to verify any and all evidence when studying past events. It is reasonable to describe someone who denies something happened as a denier. Just because you do not like the term and do not consider yourself to be a denier, does not therefore mean it is offensive. You use the logical fallacy of argument from incredulity. Just because you cannot work out how gassings etc happened and don't believe they happened, does not therefore mean they did not happen. What Rajchman said is not a fact. It is an emotive descriptive, not to be taken literally. What I listed are facts. You have used a false analogy. An inability to understand and recognise logical fallacies, is a common trait amongst those who have fallen for the Holocaust denial hoax. |
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Post by nazgul on Aug 31, 2022 8:36:53 GMT
What Rajchman said is not a fact. It is an emotive descriptive, not to be taken literally. We can now discount Rajchman as a witness; thank you Nessie. |
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Post by Nessie on Aug 31, 2022 8:56:44 GMT
What Rajchman said is not a fact. It is an emotive descriptive, not to be taken literally. We can now discount Rajchman as a witness; thank you Nessie. No court, or historians would discount the entirety of a witnesses evidence, based on one obviously figurative description, of the horror of seeing a mass grave full of corpses, catching fire. Two Nazi witnesses also describe graves on fire. There is physical evidence of buried, cremated human remains at the location where the three witnesses say the grave caught fire.
When a witness describes something in a way that is unbelievable and physically impossible, it does not therefore mean they are lying. It is other evidence that determines if they are lying. Rajchman's too incredible to believe description is corroborated by two other descriptions and the physical evidence. Therefore, Rajchman is telling the truth, he just used emotive and figurative language.
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