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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 13:32:58 GMT
Nessie wrote: Quit dodging the fact that your so-called witnesses lied. How do we reliably determine if they lied?
1 - evidence 2 - our opinion on how believable their descriptions were.
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 26, 2022 13:47:36 GMT
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You're just weasel dodging that your so-called witnesses lied about what they claimed to have witnessed.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 14:00:11 GMT
Nessie wrote: You're just weasel dodging that your so-called witnesses lied about what they claimed to have witnessed. No, I am explaining basic logic to you and your response is to ignore that.
Describing something that is possible, in a way that makes it appear impossible, does not make that something impossible.
Whether someone describes a boy cycling to the moon in a convincing or unconvincing way, that boy cannot cycle to the moon.
Whether someone describes the Nazis building a gas chamber in a convincing or unconvincing way, the Nazis can build gas chambers.
The witnesses described something possible, in a way you find unconvincing. That does not mean they all lied.
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 26, 2022 14:02:04 GMT
Nessie wrote:
No, you're trying to sell basic bullsh!t to me and I ain't buying it.
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Post by been_there on Aug 26, 2022 14:18:58 GMT
No rational people believe your witnesses' "little boy rides tricycle to the moon" fantasies and lies. You admit the Nazis could build gas chambers, dig large pits and cremate on pyres, so your analogy with something that is impossible, is a false one. Nessie admits the American space programme could send humans to the moon, so her/his logic concluding your analogy is a false one, is idiotic.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 14:40:09 GMT
You admit the Nazis could build gas chambers, dig large pits and cremate on pyres, so your analogy with something that is impossible, is a false one. Nessie admits the American space programme could send humans to the moon, so her/his logic concluding your analogy is a false one, is idiotic. A boy cannot cycle to the moon, no matter what a witness claims.
The Nazis can build gas chambers, no matter what a witness claims.
The Americans can send people to the moon, no matter what a witness claims.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 14:41:55 GMT
Nessie wrote: No, you're trying to sell basic bullsh!t to me and I ain't buying it. Comparing the physically impossible boy cycling to the moon, to the physically possible Germans building gas chambers, is a false analogy. It does not matter how well, or badly witnesses describe something, if it is physically impossible it cannot happen, if it is physically possible, it can happen.
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Post by been_there on Aug 26, 2022 15:03:32 GMT
Nessie admits the American space programme could send humans to the moon, so her/his logic concluding your analogy is a false one, is idiotic. A boy cannot cycle to the moon, no matter what a witness claims. CORRECT! The Nazis can build gas chambers, no matter what a witness claims. CORRECT! The Americans can send people to the moon, no matter what a witness claims. CORRECT!
You still havenโt understood the extremely simple comparison. Your miscomprehension is literally idiotic!
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Post by Turnagain on Aug 26, 2022 15:07:14 GMT
Your witnesses claim that the gas chamber was hermetically sealed and had the exhaust from a 27 liter engine turned into it for up to 20 minutes. That's impossible. You say "what if" the chamber was vented?
You say that it's impossible for a little boy to ride a tricycle to the moon. I say, "what if" NASA was conducting an experiment with little boys and exercise in space?
No "what if" scenario is any less believable than the other. You say that the exhumations with a clamshell didn't actually happen. "What if" they just used the dragline to uncover the grave? I say that the little boy didn't actually ride his tricycle to the moon. "What if" he just rode it around the block?
That's why all of your "what ifs", "coulda woulda" and your litany of excuses is horse frocky. You excuse the lies of the alleged eyewitnesses and then claim, "It happened". Right, and the little boy rode his tricycle to the moon.
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Post by been_there on Aug 26, 2022 15:07:53 GMT
Nessie wrote: No, you're trying to sell basic bullsh!t to me and I ain't buying it. Comparing the physically impossible boy cycling to the moon, to the physically possible Germans building gas chambers, is a false analogy. That is NOT what is being compared. As has been explained to you numerous times to no avail. Proving you DO definitely have a considerable comprehension disability. What is being compared is the physical impossiblity of a boy cycling to the moon, with the physical impossiblility of the lie-witness descriptions of the alleged functioning holyhoax gas chambers. [Sheesh! ๐คฆโโ๏ธ How many times must this be explained?]
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 16:28:43 GMT
A boy cannot cycle to the moon, no matter what a witness claims. CORRECT! The Nazis can build gas chambers, no matter what a witness claims. CORRECT! The Americans can send people to the moon, no matter what a witness claims. CORRECT!
You still havenโt understood the extremely simple comparison. Your miscomprehension is literally idiotic! You like to make assertions, without explanation. What is it that I have not understood?
Turnagain has failed to understand that a boy cycling to the moon is not comparable with Germans building gas chambers.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 16:31:21 GMT
Your witnesses claim that the gas chamber was hermetically sealed and had the exhaust from a 27 liter engine turned into it for up to 20 minutes. That's impossible. You say "what if" the chamber was vented? You say that it's impossible for a little boy to ride a tricycle to the moon. I say, "what if" NASA was conducting an experiment with little boys and exercise in space? No "what if" scenario is any less believable than the other. You say that the exhumations with a clamshell didn't actually happen. "What if" they just used the dragline to uncover the grave? I say that the little boy didn't actually ride his tricycle to the moon. "What if" he just rode it around the block? That's why all of your "what ifs", "coulda woulda" and your litany of excuses is horse frocky. You excuse the lies of the alleged eyewitnesses and then claim, "It happened". Right, and the little boy rode his tricycle to the moon. You are yet again claiming that how a person describes how they think something works, is how to determine if that thing was possible and if it happened or not.
You are labouring under the false impression that if someone genuinely saw mass gassings, then they would know exactly how the gas chambers worked and they would describe those gassings to your satisfaction.
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Post by been_there on Aug 26, 2022 16:33:31 GMT
You admit the Nazis could build gas chambers, dig large pits and cremate on pyres, so your analogy with something that is impossible, is a false one. Nessie admits the American space programme could send humans to the moon, so her/his logic concluding your analogy is a false one, is idiotic. The following is a comparative example showing the literally imbecilic use of logic employed by someone that cannot be named:
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 16:42:25 GMT
Comparing the physically impossible boy cycling to the moon, to the physically possible Germans building gas chambers, is a false analogy. That is NOT what is being compared. As has been explained to you numerous times to no avail. Proving you DO definitely have a considerable comprehension disability. What is being compared is the physical impossiblity of a boy cycling to the moon, with the physical impossiblility of the lie-witness descriptions of the alleged functioning holyhoax gas chambers. [Sheesh! ๐คฆโโ๏ธ How many times must this be explained?]That is also a false comparison and I have already explained the flaw in that comparison on numerous occasions, including just now, above!
The physical impossibility of a boy cycling to the moon is complete. It cannot happen, no matter how it is described. If someone describes a boy cycling to the moon in a way that is physically possible, that does not therefore mean it is physically possible. The action of cycling to the moon remains physically impossible. A witness who claims to have seen a boy cycling to the moon has to have lied, because that act is impossible.
The physical impossibility of a description of how someone thinks a gas chambers worked, does not therefore mean gas chambers are physically impossible, the witness lied and there were no gas chambers. It merely means that the description is poor, or incomplete or unclear or includes mistakes. A witness to a mass gassings can be telling the truth, because a mass gassing is possible.
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Post by Nessie on Aug 26, 2022 16:52:00 GMT
Nessie admits the American space programme could send humans to the moon, so her/his logic concluding your analogy is a false one, is idiotic. The following is a comparative example showing the use of logic employed by someone that cannot be named: I have never argued in that way. This my argument; - the Germans could engineer and construct gas chambers, it was well within their technical abilities - multiple witnesses said they saw such gas chambers and mass gassings and some described how they think they worked, but those descriptions lack details and make some obvious mistakes - there is corroborating evidence supporting the witness claims of mass gassings, including the buried remains of the gas chambers located where witnesses said they were within the AR camps Therefore there is corroborating evidence of mass gassings, we just do not know exactly how the gas chambers worked.
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