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Post by Ulios on Jan 12, 2022 5:48:01 GMT
Debating the Holocaust Thomas Daltons' book is available for free download in part. - There is no trace of a 'Hitler order' to exterminate the Jews
- key witnesses have either falsified or greatly exaggerated important aspects of their stories
- major death camps โ Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor, and Treblinka โ have all but vanished
- we find little evidence of disturbed earth for mass graves
- we find few remains of the millions of alleged victims โ neither bones nor ash
- mass-gassing with Zyklon-B would be nearly impossible without ventilators and ceiling holes
- mass-gassing with diesel engine exhaust is practically impossible, given the low level of carbon monoxide
- wartime air photos of Auschwitz show none of the alleged mass-burnings or cremations
- the '6 million' number has no basis in fact, and actually traces back decades before the war
- the present number of "survivors" โ currently over 1 million โ implies few wartime deaths
There are some suggestions that Mr Dalton should "evidence" what happened instead; this is fine but really the readers should decide for themselves if the time to do this is warranted. However, that said, much of this part of the forum is devoted to discussing this. It is really hard to evidence a non event, which many of the claims are. It is pertinent to discuss one issue at a time.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 12, 2022 9:14:27 GMT
holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=32"Arguments and counter-arguments for both sides are presented, and all relevant facts are laid out in a clear and concise manner." In actual fact, Dalton lists 10 reasons to disbelieve the evidence for mass gassings, which is referred to as "present counter-evidence" and he fails to evidence what did happen instead. holocausthandbooks.com/dl/32-dth-intro.pdfDalton starts by discussing fourth "myths" and in "Myth #3: The Holocaust was a โhoax.โ" states; "Now, it certainly is possible that the Holocaust storyโespecially the mass murder in gas chambers, and the โsix millionโโwas a kind of deliber- ate fabrication to achieve a desired effect of deception" He acknowledges that is quite a claim and that it is not evidenced. "You cannot claim massive fraud without a solid basis for it." He claims that instead of being a hoax, the Holocaust is an exaggeration; "An exaggeration gets repeated over and over.." The problem for him is that for that hoax to work, required the cooperation of all of the Nazis to keep quiet it was exaggerated, all of the millions of Jews supposedly not the victims of the Holocaust to keep quiet it was all exaggerated and hundreds of historians, journalists and amateur investigators to either not uncover the exaggeration, or to actively cooperate with it. Dalton acknowledges there is no evidence of that happening, so it is not a myth. It is a fact that revisionists are alleging a massive hoax, that is not evidenced to have happened.
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Post by Ulios on Jan 12, 2022 9:46:17 GMT
The problem for him is that for that hoax to work, required the cooperation of all of the Nazis to keep quiet it was exaggerated, all of the millions of Jews supposedly not the victims of the Holocaust to keep quiet it was all exaggerated and hundreds of historians, journalists and amateur investigators to either not uncover the exaggeration, or to actively cooperate with it. Dalton acknowledges there is no evidence of that happening, so it is not a myth. It is a fact that revisionists are alleging a massive hoax, that is not evidenced to have happened. The Nazis had no idea of this hoax but knew of the black propaganda. The people not victims would say nothing; like those who wrote books, this holocaust is all hearsay. Seems this myth originated within the Soviet Union, fermenting to fruition behind the Iron Curtain, delivered and drunk by the barrel to those near the pyramids. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 12, 2022 10:19:44 GMT
The problem for him is that for that hoax to work, required the cooperation of all of the Nazis to keep quiet it was exaggerated, all of the millions of Jews supposedly not the victims of the Holocaust to keep quiet it was all exaggerated and hundreds of historians, journalists and amateur investigators to either not uncover the exaggeration, or to actively cooperate with it. Dalton acknowledges there is no evidence of that happening, so it is not a myth. It is a fact that revisionists are alleging a massive hoax, that is not evidenced to have happened. The Nazis had no idea of this hoax but knew of the black propaganda. The people not victims would say nothing; like those who wrote books, this holocaust is all hearsay. Seems this myth originated within the Soviet Union, fermenting to fruition behind the Iron Curtain, delivered and drunk by the barrel to those near the pyramids. The earliest reports came from the Polish Govt in Exile, based in England. Your claim it originated with the Soviets is false.
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