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Post by Nessie on Jan 8, 2022 19:11:57 GMT
In this thread, I will gather evidence as to how many Jews were liberated at the end of the war, as each camp was itself liberated.
Bergen-Belsen, 60,000 (not all were Jewish) www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-liberation-of-bergen-belsenDachau, 30,000 (not all were Jewish) encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/liberation-of-dachau A-B, 9,000 www.history.com/news/auschwitz-liberation-soviets-holocaustNatzweiler-Struthof, 0 (only camp staff remained) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natzweiler-Struthof_concentration_camp Majdanek, 500 www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/liberation-of-nazi-camp-majdanek-1944Buchewald 21,000 (not all were Jewish) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchenwald_concentration_camp Mauthausen 22,000 (not all were Jewish) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen_concentration_camp#Liberation_and_postwar_heritage That is a total of 144,500 from the 7 largest camps. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 14, 2022 12:57:11 GMT
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Post by Agandaur on Jan 14, 2022 18:05:56 GMT
The total is now 144,600 from 11 camps. There should have been hundreds of thousand in each camp, if denial was correct and millions were not gassed. Please get close to the 44 thousand camps or at least the 660 camps in Poland and another 270 camps in Ostland. From your reckoning each camp held 13 thousand survivors on average. As there were 930 camps in Ostland and Poland alone this would account for 12 million survivors. Of course there were not that many which shows the logic of using the figures given by the poster above. |
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Post by Agandaur on Jan 14, 2022 18:26:38 GMT
It has been mentioned many times but the number of Jews kept captive by the Soviets is unknown. There were mass deportations of all groups including jews by the Soviets prior to Barbarossa and post war; many perished. AS put the number of dead jews at close to 2 million. Dr Lantos has described how he and his mother had to escape the Soviet clutches when they were told they were captive and could not return to Hungary; most of the other Jews from Buchenwald were held captive.
Today there are collections at Yuletide for Jews in Russia who are displaced persons. As this has been mentioned before by others there will be no links. The reality is that the Russians liberated no one but held them, like half of Europe at the time prisoner behind the Iron Curtain.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 14, 2022 19:39:33 GMT
The total is now 144,600 from 11 camps. There should have been hundreds of thousand in each camp, if denial was correct and millions were not gassed. Please get close to the 44 thousand camps or at least the 660 camps in Poland and another 270 camps in Ostland. From your reckoning each camp held 13 thousand survivors on average. As there were 930 camps in Ostland and Poland alone this would account for 12 million survivors. Of course there were not that many which shows the logic of using the figures given by the poster above.
The only camps and ghettos that count, are those which were open in 1944-5 and bear in mind, all the camps so far listed, were more than one camp.
If you think that the Allies liberated 44,000 camps, all full of Jews, please show your evidence. Do that and you have proved the Holocaust was a hoax.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 14, 2022 19:41:52 GMT
It has been mentioned many times but the number of Jews kept captive by the Soviets is unknown. There were mass deportations of all groups including jews by the Soviets prior to Barbarossa and post war; many perished. Those people are not relevant, only those in Nazi custody are relevant. Show your evidence for the camps the Soviets liberated and how many Jews were in each camp. This is the ideal opportunity for you to evidence and prove no Holocaust. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 14, 2022 19:43:36 GMT
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Post by Ulios on Jan 16, 2022 10:53:46 GMT
He repeats the same nonsense. He is well aware of the marches to other camps... There were 44 thousand of them. Accounting for 12 and making some conclusion shows a very limited understanding it seems. |
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Post by Ulios on Jan 16, 2022 10:56:15 GMT
These millions of people are thought to have been in Nazi custody. This is what the layman thinks and people like Nessie deliberately avoid telling them the truth. The matter of a holocaust is irrelevant. Let other people decide what is Holocaust or what is not.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 16, 2022 14:31:21 GMT
He repeats the same nonsense. He is well aware of the marches to other camps... There were 44 thousand of them. Accounting for 12 and making some conclusion shows a very limited understanding it seems. The marches to other camps, are why camps such as A-B had so few prisoners left in it, as the rest were force marched to the camps, such as B-B, which were found full of prisoners.
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Post by Nessie on Jan 16, 2022 14:32:19 GMT
These millions of people are thought to have been in Nazi custody. This is what the layman thinks and people like Nessie deliberately avoid telling them the truth. The matter of a holocaust is irrelevant. Let other people decide what is Holocaust or what is not. How about you produce evidence of camps being liberated, full of Jews who had not been gassed. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 16, 2022 14:47:06 GMT
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Post by Nessie on Jan 16, 2022 14:54:28 GMT
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Post by Ulios on Jan 16, 2022 18:17:58 GMT
The marches to other camps, are why camps such as A-B had so few prisoners left in it, as the rest were force marched to the camps, such as B-B, which were found full of prisoners. Conclusions based on very limited knowledge of a few places. Conclusions are not valid. |
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Post by Nessie on Jan 16, 2022 18:31:29 GMT
The marches to other camps, are why camps such as A-B had so few prisoners left in it, as the rest were force marched to the camps, such as B-B, which were found full of prisoners. Conclusions based on very limited knowledge of a few places. Conclusions are not valid. I see you are going to make zero effort adding to that knowledge, by adding camps to the list. If c2.5 million Jews had not been gassed by the autumn of 1944, there should have been very full camps in 1945. |
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