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Post by Nessie on Feb 10, 2022 16:18:01 GMT
Any claim made, needs to be evidenced by the claimant. If the claim of no gassings is to be taught in schools and universities, then those claims need to be evidenced. Why do you need to prove no gassings when you already have the methods of death and the life saving measures shown in film and picture? The evidence of what killed the jews and others in these camps is clearly shown. OK, give me a specific example. What would you teach about what happened inside the AR camps and what would your evidence consist of? |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 16:59:42 GMT
Why do you need to prove no gassings when you already have the methods of death and the life saving measures shown in film and picture? The evidence of what killed the jews and others in these camps is clearly shown. OK, give me a specific example. What would you teach about what happened inside the AR camps and what would your evidence consist of? Ok, the position of the camps on the map, the remains of the buildings in these areas, the stories surrounding the camp and the documents from top Nazis talking about evacuation/ deportation, coupled with the honourable nature of both the SS and whermact as shown by the documents. |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 10, 2022 17:13:56 GMT
OK, give me a specific example. What would you teach about what happened inside the AR camps and what would your evidence consist of? Ok, the position of the camps on the map, the remains of the buildings in these areas, the stories surrounding the camp and the documents from top Nazis talking about evacuation/ deportation, coupled with the honourable nature of both the SS and whermact as shown by the documents. That would not evidence what happened inside those camps. You need evidence from inside the camps. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 10, 2022 22:01:07 GMT
Ok, the position of the camps on the map, the remains of the buildings in these areas, the stories surrounding the camp and the documents from top Nazis talking about evacuation/ deportation, coupled with the honourable nature of both the SS and whermact as shown by the documents. That would not evidence what happened inside those camps. You need evidence from inside the camps. The maps showing position are about the inside of the camp relating to why they existed, other maps of the camps themselves ie Belzec being the most familiar for me are exactly about what went on in the camps, as are the buildings or lack of, the stories about the camp to the inside of the camp. And obviously the honourable and moral nature of the SS speaks to what they would do inside the camp. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 11, 2022 2:54:49 GMT
Nessie natters on about "evidence" but he doesn't actually have any. Just for openers, he has a few pieces of unidentified bone shards that he calls evidence of the cremains of 900,000 people. Chil Rajchman, a premier eyewitness to the holyhoax, declared that the carbonized bones and teeth were pulverized to cremains/ash "as fine as cigarette ash". Nessie provides neither proof that the bone shards are human nor that they weren't cremains dumped post war by Jews.
Rajchman's and Wiernik's 30-40 feet deep rectangular graves? Forget about it. Nessie has some irregularly shaped holes and some "disturbed ground". CS-C claimed that Treblinka was to be an ongoing project and she would be returning to Treblinka to continue her work. Didn't happen.
All Nessie has is his wail of, "Where did they goooooooo?" even though there's real evidence that Jews were deported from Treblinka to alternate destinations. Nessie has jack squat.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 11, 2022 8:55:13 GMT
That would not evidence what happened inside those camps. You need evidence from inside the camps. The maps showing position are about the inside of the camp relating to why they existed, other maps of the camps themselves ie Belzec being the most familiar for me are exactly about what went on in the camps, as are the buildings or lack of, the stories about the camp to the inside of the camp. And obviously the honourable and moral nature of the SS speaks to what they would do inside the camp. Your students will want to know why the honourable and moral SS who worked inside the AR camps and A-B Kremas all admitted to gassings. |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 11, 2022 9:03:03 GMT
Nessie natters on about "evidence" but he doesn't actually have any. Which is clearly a lie, since you go on to discuss some of that very evidence! Another lie, the cremains found during the walk over survey is evidence of cremations, it is not on its own evidence of how many were cremated. Again, thanks for admitting you lied when you said I do not have any evidence. Thanks again for admitting that there is evidence and that you lied. The witnesses and 1945 camp survey is evidence to prove people were cremated and their remains buried. The cremains found during the walk over survey were not ashes from modern day cremations that had been scattered. Ashes from urns are regular and smaller. Again, thanks for admitting you lied that I have no evidence. Geophysics has corroborated witness claims of large pits and you constantly dodge explaining why they would dig such huge pits if it was not to bury bodies. All the death camps had worker selections. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 11, 2022 10:20:10 GMT
The maps showing position are about the inside of the camp relating to why they existed, other maps of the camps themselves ie Belzec being the most familiar for me are exactly about what went on in the camps, as are the buildings or lack of, the stories about the camp to the inside of the camp. And obviously the honourable and moral nature of the SS speaks to what they would do inside the camp. Your students will want to know why the honourable and moral SS who worked inside the AR camps and A-B Kremas all admitted to gassings. Certainly, I'd even give them the full confessions, and they'll want to know about western and soviet policy towards Nazis as well as towards people in germany and eastern europe in general. Are you saying I wouldnt have an answer for them? |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 11, 2022 10:43:05 GMT
Nessie natters on about "evidence" but he doesn't actually have any. Which is clearly a lie, since you go on to discuss some of that very evidence! Another lie, the cremains found during the walk over survey is evidence of cremations, it is not on its own evidence of how many were cremated. Again, thanks for admitting you lied when you said I do not have any evidence. Thanks again for admitting that there is evidence and that you lied. The witnesses and 1945 camp survey is evidence to prove people were cremated and their remains buried. The cremains found during the walk over survey were not ashes from modern day cremations that had been scattered. Ashes from urns are regular and smaller. Again, thanks for admitting you lied that I have no evidence. Geophysics has corroborated witness claims of large pits and you constantly dodge explaining why they would dig such huge pits if it was not to bury bodies. All the death camps had worker selections. Yes the camps had worker selections for work details and health inspections obviously. This went on every day, its normal practice. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 11, 2022 11:59:43 GMT
Nessie claims that I lied about his lack of evidence since he has Rajchman's and others testimony. Then we have the bone shards but no cremains ground as fine as cigarette ash. According to Nessie, testimony from known liars such as Wiernik and Rajchman and what Lukaszkiewcz claimed to have found is more such "evidence". Life in holyhoax la-la land.
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 11, 2022 12:42:23 GMT
Nessie claims that I lied about his lack of evidence since he has Rajchman's and others testimony. Then we have the bone shards but no cremains ground as fine as cigarette ash. According to Nessie, testimony from known liars such as Wiernik and Rajchman and what Lukaszkiewcz claimed to have found is more such "evidence". Life in holyhoax la-la land. It's not evidence. It's hearsay and conjecture. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 11, 2022 12:46:17 GMT
Nessie claims that I lied about his lack of evidence since he has Rajchman's and others testimony. Then we have the bone shards but no cremains ground as fine as cigarette ash. According to Nessie, testimony from known liars such as Wiernik and Rajchman and what Lukaszkiewcz claimed to have found is more such "evidence". Life in holyhoax la-la land. I didn't know about Runia linska. Post me something on that whenever you can. |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 11, 2022 15:02:49 GMT
Your students will want to know why the honourable and moral SS who worked inside the AR camps and A-B Kremas all admitted to gassings. Certainly, I'd even give them the full confessions, and they'll want to know about western and soviet policy towards Nazis as well as towards people in germany and eastern europe in general. Are you saying I wouldnt have an answer for them? What would your evidence be, that the camps were not death camps, despite all the witnesses who worked there saying they were death camps. |
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Post by Nessie on Feb 11, 2022 15:04:27 GMT
Nessie claims that I lied about his lack of evidence since he has Rajchman's and others testimony. Then we have the bone shards but no cremains ground as fine as cigarette ash. According to Nessie, testimony from known liars such as Wiernik and Rajchman and what Lukaszkiewcz claimed to have found is more such "evidence". Life in holyhoax la-la land. You lie that there is no evidence for gassings and then you discuss why you do not believe the evidence for gassings, meaning there is evidence, you just do not believe it. You do that to dodge your genuine lack of evidence. It is you who actually has no evidence, not me. |
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Post by mrolonzo on Feb 11, 2022 15:40:43 GMT
Certainly, I'd even give them the full confessions, and they'll want to know about western and soviet policy towards Nazis as well as towards people in germany and eastern europe in general. Are you saying I wouldnt have an answer for them? What would your evidence be, that the camps were not death camps, despite all the witnesses who worked there saying they were death camps. The obviously reasonable and honorable nature of the SS as shown in the internal documents. Plus all the life saving measures. |
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