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Post by Nessie on Feb 18, 2022 16:52:52 GMT
You are lying about geophysics corroborating Rajchman's graves. Rajchman said 11 graves and this shows a plan from C S-C with 10 main cremation/burial pits www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363Any discrepancy is due to not being able to survey the entire site. The differences are not as significant as you suggest. They all describe large graves. Wiernik does not say how many graves there were and you assume his model is literal. I would estimate, from the plan in the above link, just over 1/2 km. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 18, 2022 17:30:55 GMT
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You lie. Wrong size, no cremains. No GPR scans. It's bullshit.
The errors are significant when there are three of them with the attendant discrepancy in the number of graves.
I didn't ask for an estimate. I said, "How long is the south perimeter of Treblinka?".
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Post by Nessie on Feb 18, 2022 17:43:44 GMT
Nessie wrote: You lie. Wrong size, no cremains. No GPR scans. It's bullshit. You claim no cremains and no GPR, despite me showing you evidence of both. What do you base your claims on? Two do not say how many graves there were and one makes a claim that is very close to geophysical finds. Their dimensions are not significantly different, the each describe huge mass grvaes. Work it out yourself from the scale on the map in the article I linked to. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 18, 2022 17:55:13 GMT
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You lie. You haven't.
So, no distance for the southern perimeter. Figures.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 18, 2022 17:59:49 GMT
Nessie wrote: You lie. You haven't. I have linked you to the 1945 Polish and C S-C lead surveys, which both evidence cremains and shown you the GPR images in the C S-C thesis. It is just over 1/2km going by the scale in the linked plan. If you want a distance that is precise to a few metres, then you work it out. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 18, 2022 18:47:05 GMT
You have linked to nothing that shows the alleged 2,000-2,500 tons of cremains buried in a pit(s) that are somewhere between six meters and twelve meters deep. You lie. Get back to me when you have proof of those graves and their cremains. That's actual lab tested cremains. Not some unidentified bullshit that you usually throw out as "everdence".
Curious how the maps with measurements have disappeared off Google and DuckDuckGo.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 18, 2022 19:05:36 GMT
You have linked to nothing that shows the alleged 2,000-2,500 tons of cremains buried in a pit(s) that are somewhere between six meters and twelve meters deep. You lie. Get back to me when you have proof of those graves and their cremains. That's actual lab tested cremains. Not some unidentified bullshit that you usually throw out as "everdence". Curious how the maps with measurements have disappeared off Google and DuckDuckGo. The more evidence I show you, the more you scream it is not enough evidence, as you weasel dodge not having any evidence at all, to back up your claims.
C S-C thesis has measurements of the camp perimeter. Curious how you demand evidence, you get shown it and then you reject it and demand evidence again.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 18, 2022 19:25:02 GMT
Stuff your everdence. Sick and tired of your bullshit. Put up or KMA.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 18, 2022 19:28:34 GMT
Stuff your everdence. Sick and tired of your bullshit. Put up or KMA. You ask for evidence. Where I can find it, I show you evidence. Invariably, that evidence is not what you want to see, so you whine like a baby. You then weasel dodge your lack of any evidence.
If you are so sick and tired, why do you keep on replying to me? You are debunked, your belief is busted and you know it. Grow up and admit you are wrong.
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 18, 2022 20:01:20 GMT
You show three or four tiny little unidentified bone shards and say, "See, here's everdence that 900,000 people got cremated". Then we have you weasel dodging the question of where did the wood come from for the barbeque? You claim that a German said that there was wood. The question was (and is) "Where did the effing wood come from"? I'm burned out on your weasel dodging and your "everdence". It's meaningless bullshit. Come up with some straight answers or eff off.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 18, 2022 20:06:55 GMT
You show three or four tiny little unidentified bone shards and say, "See, here's everdence that 900,000 people got cremated". That cremated remains were found on the surface of the ground in 2014, is one part of the evidence of the burial of cremated remains. It is not evidence of how many, you just lied and made that fake quote up. You weasel dodge that I answered that question with the evidence of a wood yard supplying an AR camp and how the Nazis could just source uncut wood for pyres there. Your incredulity that the Nazis could not organise wood being delivered is clearly disingenuous. |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 18, 2022 20:34:30 GMT
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Horseshit!
More weasel dodging. "Woodyard" my shiny hiney.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 19, 2022 11:13:25 GMT
Nessie wrote: Horseshit! More weasel dodging. "Woodyard" my shiny hiney. OK, so how about you produce contemporaneous evidence to prove what happened inside TII? Oh, of course, you cannot. Why do you believe in what you cannot evidence? |
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Post by Turnagain on Feb 19, 2022 12:13:03 GMT
What does it take to get it through to you that it's not my job to prove what happened to the people who were sent to Treblinka? The claim is that they were gassed, buried, exhumed, cremated and reburied. That didn't happen. I'm indifferent to where the Jews went after that or what happened to them. We know that some were sent to other destinations which supports the theory that Treblinka was a transit camp which, in turn, is additional proof that Treblinka wasn't an execution facility. Who knows, perhaps they were killed at some other location bur the fact remains that they weren't murdered at Treblinka.
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Post by Nessie on Feb 19, 2022 12:39:31 GMT
What does it take to get it through to you that it's not my job to prove what happened to the people who were sent to Treblinka? Yes, it is. The burden of proof is on you to evidence (not argument, evidence) your claims about TII, that there were no gassings, mass graves or pyres. You have no evidence to back up that claim, you only have arguments that are based on logical fallacies. For you to evidence no gassings, graves and pyres you need to produce evidence from 1 - witnesses who worked there, to say what they did do and what happened inside the camp 2 - geophysical, archaeological and/or witness evidence to prove large areas undisturbed ground where there was no excavations and burial of cremated and larger human remains 3 - documentary evidence of regular mass transports of people back out of the camp That evidence is why we know claims about mass gassings at other camps are false. When claims were made about Dachau, Bergen-Belsen etc, enquiry was made with the witnesses who worked there, who all said no gassings and explained what did happen. There was no evidence of mass graves or mass cremations and documentary evidence recorded the ins and outs of the camp population, showing no people arrived and then there was no record of what happened to them. That just proves you are not approaching this in an honest or open-minded way and you are trying to dishonestly excuse your lack of evidence. You are admitting your belief is akin to a religious belief, where evidence and what actually happened does not matter. No, it supports the evidence that all the death camps had limited selections for workers. Why should I bleieve you, when you have no evidence? |
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