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Post by Turnagain on Dec 22, 2021 15:00:16 GMT
You've shown your pictures of a little boy riding a tricycle. Give it a rest. No. Those photos and the evidence of mass cremations in Dresden totally undermine your claim that it is physically impossible to cremate bodies on top of a grate of rails over a small amount of wood. No, your photo of a little boy riding a tricycle/pile of smouldering cadavers isn't proof that the little boy rode his trike to the moon/850,000 cadavers were cremated at Treblinka. The fact remains that you have NO photos of cremated bodies or of cremains in either location. |
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Post by Nessie on Dec 22, 2021 16:06:47 GMT
No. Those photos and the evidence of mass cremations in Dresden totally undermine your claim that it is physically impossible to cremate bodies on top of a grate of rails over a small amount of wood. No, your photo of a little boy riding a tricycle/pile of smouldering cadavers isn't proof that the little boy rode his trike to the moon/850,000 cadavers were cremated at Treblinka. The fact remains that you have NO photos of cremated bodies or of cremains in either location. The fact is that there is
1 - photographic evidence of cremations by pyres in Dresden 2 - multiple witness statements about very similar pyres being used at TII, Sobibor and Belzec.
3 - physical evidence of cremated remains and ashes at those camps. The remains from the cremated bodies at Dresden were buried in various mass graves in the city.
Whenever I produce evidence, you shift the goalposts to demand an ever increasing amount of evidence, whilst at the same time you demand I believe your claims based on either no, or very little evidence, which you have often misrepresented.
Your mantra of a boy cycling to the moon is against forum rules and in any case, you keep on using it to try and dismiss what is physically possible to do!
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 22, 2021 17:42:05 GMT
Nessie lies. There are NO photos of actual cremations at Dresden. Nessie produces NO evidence then claims that the goal posts have been shifted.
Whining about my little boy and his tricycle analogy doesn't refute the analogy.
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Post by Venatแปr on Dec 22, 2021 17:45:03 GMT
You've shown your pictures of a little boy riding a tricycle. Give it a rest. No. Those photos and the evidence of mass cremations in Dresden totally undermine your claim that it is physically impossible to cremate bodies on top of a grate of rails over a small amount of wood. That is just rubble. |
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Post by Nessie on Dec 22, 2021 18:00:16 GMT
Nessie lies. There are NO photos of actual cremations at Dresden. Nessie produces NO evidence then claims that the goal posts have been shifted. Whining about my little boy and his tricycle analogy doesn't refute the analogy. How are photos of smoking and burning pyres, not evidence of cremations at Dresden?
Your analogy is about what is physically impossible. There is evidence from multiple witnesses and places that cremations using grates are physically possible. Every BBQ and trench camp fire proves it is possible to cremate on a grate or grill.
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Post by Nessie on Dec 22, 2021 18:11:12 GMT
web.archive.org/web/20140502040509/http://www.cpgg.info/docs/schlussmeldung_dresden1945.htm"Der Hรถhere SS- und Polizeifรผhrer Elbe in den Gauen Halle-Merseburg, Sachsen und Wehrkreis IV - Befehlshaber der Ordnungspolizei -" "Mit Rรผcksicht auf die schnell fortschreitende Verwesung und bestehende auรerordentliche Schwierigkeiten bei der Bergung, sowie Mangel an geeigneten Fahrzeugen zur รberfรผhrung auf Friedhรถfe mit Zustimmung des Gauleiters und der Stadtverwaltung auf dem Altmarkt insgesamt 6865 Gefallene eingeรคschert. Die Asche der Gefallenen wurde auf einen Friedhof รผberfรผhrt." Google translate; "In consideration of the rapidly advancing decomposition and the existing extraordinary difficulties with the rescue, as well as the lack of suitable vehicles for the transfer to cemeteries with the approval of the Gauleiter and the city administration on the Altmarkt a total of 6,865 dead cremated. The ashes of the fallen were transferred to a cemetery."
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 22, 2021 18:23:07 GMT
cremate
krฤโฒmฤtโณ, krฤญ-mฤtโฒ
transitive verb
To incinerate (a corpse).
1. To burn; to reduce to ashes by the action of fire, either directly or in an oven or retort;
2. to incremate or incinerate.
The American Heritageยฎ Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
Show me your photos of cadavers being reduced to ashes by the action of fire. If you can't do that then give it a rest.
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Post by Velรฒhaven on Dec 22, 2021 18:23:07 GMT
Your analogy is about what is physically impossible. There is evidence from multiple witnesses and places that cremations using grates are physically possible. Every BBQ and trench camp fire proves it is possible to cremate on a grate or grill. Nessie, I do not think it is the question of the grill that is being asked but but fuel and how much. I personally see no issue with a BBQ grill; they have good spaces for air flow etc. The Colorado outdoor cremation centre using a grill for a single body.  |
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 22, 2021 18:27:26 GMT
Your analogy is about what is physically impossible. There is evidence from multiple witnesses and places that cremations using grates are physically possible. Every BBQ and trench camp fire proves it is possible to cremate on a grate or grill. Nessie, I do not think it is the question of the grill that is being asked but but fuel and how much. I personally see no issue with a BBQ grill; they have good spaces for air flow etc. The Colorado outdoor cremation centre using a grill for a single body. You have massive quantities of wood both below the body with the body placed on more wood. Hardly the same as Nessie's claims for Treblinka. |
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Post by Nessie on Dec 22, 2021 19:52:13 GMT
cremate krฤโฒmฤtโณ, krฤญ-mฤtโฒ transitive verb To incinerate (a corpse). 1. To burn; to reduce to ashes by the action of fire, either directly or in an oven or retort; 2. to incremate or incinerate. The American Heritageยฎ Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition. Show me your photos of cadavers being reduced to ashes by the action of fire. If you can't do that then give it a rest.
Photos of cremations and a document recording how many were cremated and what was done with the cremains, and according to you, that is insufficient evidence of cremations!!!!
Your standard of evidence required to prove something varies significantly depending on whether or not you want to believe it.
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