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Post by Turnagain on Dec 23, 2021 12:58:24 GMT
Nessie wrote:
And you have NO, zip, zero, nada photos of any cremations taking place.
The little boy riding a tricycle to the moon is just an example of your post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Same as your fallacy that a pile of bodies equates cremated cadavers.
By the way, where's your example of my variable standards of evidence/proof?
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 13:22:33 GMT
Nessie wrote: And you have NO, zip, zero, nada photos of any cremations taking place. The little boy riding a tricycle to the moon is just an example of your post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Same as your fallacy that a pile of bodies equates cremated cadavers. By the way, where's your example of my variable standards of evidence/proof? How are photos of piles of bodies on fire on a pyre, not photos of a cremation taking place?
You are ignoring the evidence that the pyres worked and the document that reports; "a total of 6865 dead people were cremated on the Altmarkt with the consent of the regional director and the city administration. The ashes of the fallen were transferred to a cemetery"
On one hand you want photos of bore samples. On the other hand you reject photos of pyres. You are inconsistent when it comes to what level of evidence you accept or reject. If I had photos of bore samples, that show disturbed ground, you would think up a reason to reject that evidence.
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 23, 2021 14:12:09 GMT
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Excepting the colorized photo, there aren't any flames consuming the cadavers. The colorized photo is just too suspect to be reliable. You show piles of smoking bodies. The Altmarkt was the area where cadavers were brought and there are other photos of even larger piles of bodies that show no signs of smoke or flame. IOW, you have NO photos of cadavers that have been cremated. The sheer number of altered or mislabeled photos of supposed atrocities shown by lying hoaxers have been proven time and again. Just more of your fallacy. A little boy riding a tricycle isn't proof that he rode the tricycle to the moon.
What tripe! I don't reject the photos of dead Germans piled up in the Altmarkt. I DO reject your post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy that the photos are proof of cremains. The fact remains that Kola the Klown took no photos of his alleged core samples. Try again, Nessie.
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 14:22:30 GMT
Nessie wrote: Excepting the colorized photo, there aren't any flames consuming the cadavers. The colorized photo is just too suspect to be reliable. You show piles of smoking bodies. The Altmarkt was the area where cadavers were brought and there are other photos of even larger piles of bodies that show no signs of smoke or flame. IOW, you have NO photos of cadavers that have been cremated. The sheer number of altered or mislabeled photos of supposed atrocities shown by lying hoaxers have been proven time and again. Just more of your fallacy. A little boy riding a tricycle isn't proof that he rode the tricycle to the moon. You repeatedly ignore the document recording how many were cremated and what happened to the ashes. Those photos show how the pyres were set and not long after they were set alight. The document proves the pyres worked. The photos are not of dead Germans piled up, they are of dead Germans on a pyre that has been set alight. You have no evidence that the pyres did not work. You are suggesting that because there is no photo showing the pyres full ablaze, that they must have gone out. You have no evidence of that. You ignore the document which records how many were cremated and what happened to their ashes. |
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 23, 2021 14:57:54 GMT
Nessie continues with his tripe that the piles of bodies equate the number of bodies cremated. Are photos of piles of smoking bodies photos of cremated bodies? In Nessie's post hoc ergo propter hoc world they are. A little boy riding a tricycle is proof that he rode that tricycle to the moon.
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 16:54:33 GMT
Nessie continues with his tripe that the piles of bodies equate the number of bodies cremated. Are photos of piles of smoking bodies photos of cremated bodies? In Nessie's post hoc ergo propter hoc world they are. A little boy riding a tricycle is proof that he rode that tricycle to the moon. You are still dodging explaining how various photos of bodies on a pyre and of those pyres billowing smoke and signs of flames, not evidence of mass cremations on pyres.
You are yet again dodging the Nazi report detailing how many were cremated and what happened to the ashes.
Your suggestion that reaching a conclusion based on corroborating photographic and documentary evidence is a fallacy, is wrong.
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 23, 2021 17:35:35 GMT
I'm dodging nothing but your idiocy. Tiresome.
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 17:46:56 GMT
I'm dodging nothing but your idiocy. Tiresome. You have dodged the document and explaining why photos of a pyre are not evidence of a pyre. |
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 23, 2021 18:17:24 GMT
No, I've dodged nothing but your idiocy. You show a pile of bodies. You then say that it proves that the magic Jew barbeque at Treblinka worked just fine. It's documented. Sell it down the street.
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 18:26:23 GMT
No, I've dodged nothing but your idiocy. You show a pile of bodies. You then say that it proves that the magic Jew barbeque at Treblinka worked just fine. It's documented. Sell it down the street. The photos of the Dresden pyres are very similar to that described at the AR camps. The document about how many were cremated and what happened to their ashes undermines your suggestion the Dresden pyres did not work. That is evidence to undermine your claim that type of pyre is a physical impossibility. Add that circumstantial evidence to the eyewitness and physical evidence of pyres at the AR camps and together, all that evidence, proves the pyres happened at the AR camps. |
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Post by Turnagain on Dec 23, 2021 19:17:41 GMT
No, the clothed bodies piled onto I-beams at Dresden aren't similar to the magic Jew barbeque other than they're both a pile of bodies. The barbeque was one body wide and over 30 bodies high. It's documented that about 6,000 bodies were cremated at Dresden. There's nothing to prove that the bodies in the pile at Dresden were the ones that were cremated. Just more of your fallacy at work. There's no circumstantial or any physical evidence of the existence of a barbeque or of the cremains of 850,000 cadavers at Treblinka. The pile of bodies at Dresden aren't proof or even evidence that the magic Jew barbeque of Treblinka even existed.
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Post by Venatแปr on Dec 23, 2021 19:35:46 GMT
The photos of the Dresden pyres are very similar to that described at the AR camps. The document about how many were cremated and what happened to their ashes undermines your suggestion the Dresden pyres did not work. That is evidence to undermine your claim that type of pyre is a physical impossibility. Add that circumstantial evidence to the eyewitness and physical evidence of pyres at the AR camps and together, all that evidence, proves the pyres happened at the AR camps. Wiernik described the pyre at Treblinka as follows: Examine the Dresden pyre carefully and see if this is a huge inferno which from a distance would like like a volcano breaking through the earths crust. People can make up their own minds without the constant repitition thank you Nessie. Here is another one, clearly smoking. Wiernik also says: Just lit a match and up they went... I think at Dresen they would have used a considerable amount of fuel. Remember 100MJ of water for each body just to remove the water. 6865 bodies were allegedly burned at the "Old Market"; this would need 686,500 MJ (0.6865 terajoules) of heat energy for evaporation. This is a scientific fact and cannot be avoided. Woody biomass has an average heating density of 14.9 megajoules per kilogram (pine even less). 46 tonne of wood is needed for this evaporation at 6.7 kg per corpse at the minimum. Most cremations use 100kg per body minimum. The adipose tissue will only contribute to the heat energy after the water has evaporated. |
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 19:57:52 GMT
No, the clothed bodies piled onto I-beams at Dresden aren't similar to the magic Jew barbeque other than they're both a pile of bodies. The barbeque was one body wide and over 30 bodies high. It's documented that about 6,000 bodies were cremated at Dresden. There's nothing to prove that the bodies in the pile at Dresden were the ones that were cremated. Just more of your fallacy at work. There's no circumstantial or any physical evidence of the existence of a barbeque or of the cremains of 850,000 cadavers at Treblinka. The pile of bodies at Dresden aren't proof or even evidence that the magic Jew barbeque of Treblinka even existed. Both were pyres where the bodies were piled onto a grate, above wood. The only difference was the bodies at Dresden were clothed. The photos and the document prove the pyre at Dresden worked. That undermines your claim such pyres are a physical impossibility. There is physical evidence of cremated remains and ash at the AR camps, so there is proof cremations took place. Every single witness at the camps describes a pyre similar to that at Dresden.
Your assertion that is not evidence to prove mass pyres at the AR camps is nonsense.
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Post by Nessie on Dec 23, 2021 20:00:09 GMT
The photos of the Dresden pyres are very similar to that described at the AR camps. The document about how many were cremated and what happened to their ashes undermines your suggestion the Dresden pyres did not work. That is evidence to undermine your claim that type of pyre is a physical impossibility. Add that circumstantial evidence to the eyewitness and physical evidence of pyres at the AR camps and together, all that evidence, proves the pyres happened at the AR camps. Wiernik described the pyre at Treblinka as follows: Examine the Dresden pyre carefully and see if this is a huge inferno which from a distance would like like a volcano breaking through the earths crust. ..... The photos are of the pyre before it was set alight and not long after it was set alight. There is no photo showing it fully ablaze or after it had burnt out, but we know that happened, because of the document about how many were cremated and what happened to the cremains. |
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Post by been_there on Dec 24, 2021 11:38:11 GMT
No, the clothed bodies piled onto I-beams at Dresden aren't similar to the magic Jew barbeque other than they're both a pile of bodies. The barbeque was one body wide and over 30 bodies high. It's documented that about 6,000 bodies were cremated at Dresden. There's nothing to prove that the bodies in the pile at Dresden were the ones that were cremated. Just more of your fallacy at work. There's no circumstantial or any physical evidence of the existence of a barbeque or of the cremains of 850,000 cadavers at Treblinka. The pile of bodies at Dresden aren't proof or even evidence that the magic Jew barbeque of Treblinka even existed. Both were pyres where the bodies were piled onto a grate, above wood.
The only difference was the bodies at Dresden were clothed.
The photos and the document prove the pyre at Dresden worked.
That undermines your claim such pyres are a physical impossibility.
There is physical evidence of cremated remains and ash at the AR camps, so there is proof cremations took place.
Every single witness at the camps describes a pyre similar to that at Dresden.
Your assertion that is not evidence to prove mass pyres at the AR camps is nonsense.
To utilise Turnagainโs example, this idiocy is equivalent to arguing the following: โBoth were boys on bicycles.
The only difference was one rode his to the moon.
The photos of a boy on his bike cycling on planet Earth proves that bikes worked.
That undermines your claim that cycling to the moon is a physical impossibility.
There is physical evidence of boys riding bikes and of humans on the moon, so that is proof the claim of a boy cycling to the moon took place.
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